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Published: Thursday, Nov. 21 2013 4:00 a.m. MST

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

WHY? Thats an easy one.

Most, not all, business that are open on Sunday, do it for the money.
Most, not all, that are closed on Sunday, do so because the Govt told them they had to.

I find it a bit hypocritical that this is written by a DN reporter and published in the DN which operates a "business" that forces lots of people to work on Sundays.

Absolutely necessary? I think not. There was a time when the DN did not publish on Sunday.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Amazon is going to start delivering on Sundays, following a uniquely American philosophy of catering to customers. ... Is this policy really uniquely American?

I remember when the desnews didn't offer a newspaper on Sunday.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

"Blue laws, as they're commonly known in the United States, require nonessential stores to be closed on Sundays to conform with local moral and cultural standards."

Operating a business on Sunday - a day named in honor of the sun god, Apollo - is not a "moral" issue.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

In some religions, Saturday is the Sabbath. Members if these religions have no moral imperative to not do business on Sunday.

In a pluralistic society such as ours, it is perfectly valid to offer business services on Saturday and Sunday thus allowing patrons and employees to honor their Sabbath in the manner dictated by their belief system without imposing the beliefs of the business owner on them.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

I'm amused that Hobby Lobby claims its closure policy is all about the employees.

They don't have to close on Sundays in order to give their workers a day off. There's no reason why workers have to all take the *same* day off.

Of course Hobby Lobby has the right to close whenever they wish -- but they should at least be honest about the reasons. IMHO it's very telling that they feel the need to hide their true intent.

Steve Cottrell
Centerville, UT

I'm surprised that people remember when the Deseret News did not have a Sunday paper. I was delivering the Deseret News 60 years ago -- every Sunday.

Tad
TOOELE, UT

In the Bible, it was the Pharisees who favored strict enforcement of the Sabbath commandment. It was also the Pharisees who came up with a number of goofy rules, such as putting food at a distance then defining Sabbath travel in such a way that traveling to where the food was was not a violation of the commandment, Readers of the Bible will recognize that Jesus criticized the Pharisees for their over adherence to the letter of the commandment and not to its spirit.

The Hebrew Sabbath is on Saturday (Saturn's day in Rome), but was changed to Sunday in Christiandom. Christian apologists claim this is because Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, but if he was crucified on the day before the Sabbath and resurrected the morning after, then the 3 days in the tomb count doesn't really work. It seems more likely that Sunday (The sun's day in Rome - which worshiped the Sun) was chosen synchronisticly to coincide with Constantine's - and Rome's - affiliation with Sol Invictus (the cult of the Sun).

dan76
san antonio, TX

The businesses I avoid are the ones open 24/7.

gittalopctbi
Glendale, AZ

Au Contrarius, pray tell--what IS Hobby Lobby's "true intent" that we don't already know? Why criticize a company that gives at least one day off a week to its employees?

Left out of the discussion is Chick-Fil-A that also closes on Sundays.

@Kalindra I do not understand how a business owner can "impose" his beliefs on the consumer. The consumer is not forced to do business with him, first of all. The mere fact that the consumer would not be able to purchase at this business on a particular day is not imposing any "belief" on a consumer any more than a business owner closing at a certain time at night. Most barbers and beauty shops are not open on Monday. We plan for a different day instead, right? Or find one that is. Why find complaints about businesses? It's their store. They can do what they want. Don't like it? Take you money elsewhere.

J-TX
Allen, TX

"Bergen County is one of the few counties in the United States enforcing strict blue laws within its limits, said Jeanne Baratta, spokeswoman for Bergen County."

Obviously, they haven't been to Texas.

Some counties are completely "dry", some allow beer and wine sales but not hard alcohol, some completely prohibit sexually oriented businesses. Some restrict car dealerships to selling on only one weekend day - Saturday OR Sunday, but not both.

As to businesses being closed on Sunday, I enjoy being in Texas where it is not frowned on, but people close up shop on Sunday and it is understood. Chick Fil-A, Hobby Lobby and other large concerns (some restaurants) still close on Sunday down here, and it's refreshing.

When I lived in Oregon (20+ years), Sunday was just a second Saturday.

J-TX
Allen, TX

BTW, the Dallas Morning News Sunday Early Edition is available on Saturday from 9:00 AM in the grocery stores, so you don't have to have people work on Sunday to get a Sunday paper.

cval
Hyde Park, UT

Many large national chains insist that their franchisees be open on Sunday as a matter of company policy.

In small towns in Utah, this is often a money losing proposition. I am aware of many business that have petitioned their parent company for an exception so they don't have to lose money to be open on Sunday.

Some have relented, but most have stuck to the policy even thought it costs the franchisees money.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ gittalopctbi: You are absolutely right and the entire premise of this article is flawed.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

re Steve Cottrell
Centerville, UT

I wasn't alive 60 years ago, but in my life time, people who ordered the Desnews got it Monday through Saturday and on Sunday got the Salt Lake Tribune. The same carrier who delivered on the the 6 days of the week also delivered on Sunday. My guess is this is how it was 60 years ago too. Back then the LDS was more strict about most everything. Over time they have moderated.

Relocated Southerner
Logan, UT

So, Utah is not the only state to have businesses that close on Sunday? Could it be that those evil Mormons are not the only ones who like stores closed on Sunday? Every time I hear all the complaints about all the "restrictions" that the Church imposes on others here, I tell them that they have never been in the Bible Belt -- Deep South -- or any other areas of the United States and, apparently, Europe as well. And I well remember when we had strict blue laws in effect where I grew up. We didn't miss a thing by keeping most stores closed on Sunday, and it was nice for the people who worked in the stores to have a day when they could be off with their entire family. Someone else posted that employees could have another day of the week off, and while that is true, if you have people in one family with different days of the week off, you never get the opportunity to have the entire family together on one day. And I wish the stores would stay closed on Thanksgiving, too!

Kevin J. Kirkham
Salt Lake City, UT

The POGP talks about someone advocating the use of force to promote righteous behaviors. Blue Laws do this exact thing. Consider this quote -

“When I was a small boy we had just emerged from under the blue laws of Connecticut -- to greater freedom of thought and action.” (Wilford Woodruff)

Such laws are contrary to the Gospel and American principles of freedom and should therefore be condemned as evil in both the secular and sectarian sense.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@gittalopctbi --

"Au Contrarius" -- I like that. ;-)

"what IS Hobby Lobby's "true intent" that we don't already know? "

Oh, we already know it -- they're just not admitting to it in their flimsy excuse for the Sunday closing.

"Why criticize a company that gives at least one day off a week to its employees?"

Most of America gives their employees at least one day a week off. We've got 40-hour work weeks, remember? That doesn't mean that everyone has to have the SAME day off.

"It's their store. They can do what they want. "

Yup.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Sunday is just a day. Not even the sabbath, if that's what you want to peg your closing day to. I remember small town stores closing on wednesday, to make up for their staff working saturday. And nobody should be getting postal delivery on the weekend. They're losing money like crazy; delivery should be to central boxes in communities maybe three days a week.

Clifton Palmer McLendon
Gilmer, TX

I spent my high school years in a small town in Deep East Texas.

Every drugstore in town had a soda fountain and grill. All were open on Sundays.

The clerk that ran the soda fountain and grill in the main drugstore refused on religious grounds to cook on Sunday.

I never figured that out -- why it was objectionable to cook, but not to do business.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Not all religions Sabbath's are on Sunday. When I lived in New York I shopped at a photography store run by a very nice Hassidic Jewish family. I knew that if needed something I needed to get it by early afternoon on Friday because the store would close early so they could be home before sundown, if I did not get it I would have to wait until Sunday or go elsewhere. There were also many places closed on Sunday for various religious and secular reasons, they did not make a big fuss about it or demand everyone follow their dictates it just was what it was. it is the nature of the city as I suspect is true of LA. I have no problem with companies making these decisions but blue laws are just silly in a pluralistic society.

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