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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 19 2013 5:50 p.m. MST

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Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

Here is something to think about: when Obama lied - nobody died. I wish I could say the same about "W"

TMR
Los Angeles, CA

To happy2behere: I have no idea what the chicken and egg have to do with the issue, but on the whole, the GOP has well earned its brand of "no, no, no." I am not suggesting that the Democratic party scores well on this point, but I was simply providing context by which to measure the fairness or lack thereof in Noonan's criticism.

As a professor in what you likely would consider a "liberal" university, I can assure you that conservatives often speak and they are not shouted down. I have children who attend and have attended BYU: the university does a lot of things well, but it would be well served by mixing it up a bit on the political biases of its major speakers. It would be good for the kids and good for the image of BYU.

twspears6007
Bakersfield, CA

Has anyone thought about reasons leading up to the Iraq war. Time for a little refresher course. Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait unprovoked why because he wanted their oil. George Hershel Bush formed a coalition with other nations to remove Saddam's army from both Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and that stopped Saddam's ambitions to take over the oil in the Middle East. Lets not forget the Scud missile's launched at Israel by Saddam Hussein also unprovoked. Let not forget that Saddam also even after a severe punishment from the coalition he still was a threat to the peace in the Middle East. Let not forget that President George Walker Bush went to the Senators and Congress to get the support for the Iraqi War the Majority voted to support the war even many Democrat's believed the Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction and the war was approved. My question is why are we blaming President George Walker Bush for a war that was approved by the majority of our legislators. Besides is there anyone out there that does not believe that removing Saddam Hussein from power was the right thing to do. Sincerely, Trenton Spears

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

RE: twospears " My question is why are we blaming President George Walker Bush for a war that was approved by the majority of our legislators." Good point. I don't blame W. exclusively. Both parties went along with that war. I signed a pledge that I would never vote for anybody who voted for that war, i.e. Jim Matheson. I've kept my word!

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

The reason Iran is so obnoxious today is because their natural enemy, Iraq, was neutralized by Bush and his cronies. Iraq kept Iran in line.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Obama is in his 2nd term.

Sorry, you lost.

Tyler McArthur
South Jordan, UT

To tesuji and all of you disparaging BYU for bringing in a conservative speaker;

The Church endorses no political candidates or parties and encourages its members to examine the issues carefully before voting. BYU has a great track record of bringing in both liberal and conservative speakers. I personally watched Harry Reid give a forum address in the Marriott Center and he received a very polite, cordial and warm response. There are many more examples that I could list. Please don't base your mockery on anecdotal evidence.

ConservativeCommonTater
West Valley City, UT

"She spoke lovingly of the elder President Bush...but said his kindness sometimes led to missed opportunities, such as when the Berlin Wall fell and he refused to "rub it in" the noses of Soviet leaders by making a major speech."

"Rubbing it in" is not the attribute of a good leader, a statesman or a good Christian, all of which Republicans claim Bush Sr. to be.

This sounds like a sophomoric cheerleading rally rather than a presentation of intellectual idea that are good for the country.

Midwest Mom
Soldiers Grove, WI

What a load of rubbish. If this woman were genuine in her promotion of unity, then she would not have made such a partisan speech.

Government is the people. Us. All of us. Let's get back to E pluribus unum and can the talking heads with their unilateral, self-serving agendas.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah
BYU is doing a great job of political indoctrination. George Will, Peggy Noonan -- who's next, the ghost of Warren Harding?

8:27 a.m. Nov. 20, 2013

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LiberalEastCoastMember
Parkesburg, PA
Makes me wonder why I should continue to have anything to do with BYU or its sponsoring organization.

9:14 a.m. Nov. 20, 2013

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Agreed.

If this is what BYU is espousing,
perhaps they should just all drop out of college like their AM radio talkshow hosts did.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ Tom in CA, I guess you haven't checked the numbers for the economy. Like someone pointed out, with the Dow double what it was, Obama is the worst Socialist ever! LOL!!

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "J-TX" lets look at history a bit closer. First, when Reagan was asked about some of the mistakes that he made during his Presidency, he said that one of his biggest mistakes was that he believed the Democrats that promised to cut spending. Reagans fault was that he actually trusted the Democrats to do what they promised to do.

Next, the budget has not been balanced since 1967. According to the GAO, the smallest deficit during the Clinton years was about $23 billion.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

I'm sure glad someone around here is finally stepping up and calling out Mr Obama. I wish someone would investigate and report on Benghazi. That didn't get near the attention it needed to. In fact I think it should get the same amount of attention that all the other embassy attacks got from 2000 to 2008.

Bob A. Bohey
Marlborough, MA

Gosh Peg, you know so much why don't you run for president. I bet you'd be just perfect!

dLange
Los Gatos, CA

What is wrong with BYU?!! It is not good that an institution of higher learning continues to give a soap box to only one political point of view, and the wrong one at that.

Vanceone
Provo, UT

It's not fair! Why can't BYU be like 99 % of the other universities and invite only people from MSNBC and the Democratic Parties approved speaker list? Why, by allowing people like Noonan and Will to speak, those poor BYU students might--gasp!--get the message that Karl Marx isn't the one and true God of the earth!

Even worse, they might not want to chant hymns of praise to Obama! Inconceivable! Free Speech means listening only to leftists, we all know that! If people actually get a chance to hear someone who is to the right of Lenin, they might start thinking troubling thoughts! Don't they know that leftism is the only true and valid way of thinking? Liberalism is the only possible answer, the savior of us all?

We should pass a law forbidding anyone not on a list prepared by Valerie Jarret from ever addressing a body of students again! How else will our rising generation know where to find the truth? After all, freedom of speech is only to be used as long as it's not hate speech, or racist speech, and any opposition to liberal mantras is by definition hate or racist.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

BYU seems to be about as "Fair and Balanced" as FoxNews.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

twspears6007 So Both Bushes lied and you believed them, Good for you. To bad your facts leave out all the nasty little details. Like Kuwait drilling under the border and Saddam asking America if they would interfere if he attacked Kuwait
Bush told him no, than the Saudi's called in a favor, and from ally to #1 threat in 3..2..1. So we dumped 1,000 of tons of Depleted Uranium on Iraq oh and our men (Gulf Syndrome) or Dirty bombed a country who we formerly paid to stay at war with Iran. And then the story continues with more deception and lies and the right continues to defend the warmongers.

Billy Bob
Salt Lake City, UT

Bush was wrong about WMD in Iraq, as were most everyone else with the same information that he had. At the time, everyone thought Iraq had WMD. Bush did not lie about it, unless everyone else who was wrong (based on bad information) was also lying. Being wrong about something is not the same thing as lying.

Obama,on the other hand, has lied about Obmamacare. It is his baby, his crown jewel of his presidency. And he blatantly lied about it. If he didn't know what was actually in the law, then I guess he didn't lie, but he was criminally negligent about it. He should know what is in the law that is supposed to be the defining part of his presidency. So either way, it is not fair to say that Bush and Iraq is the same as Obama and health care. Although Bush is not without fault in the way he treated the Iraq situation, Obama is far worse with Obamacare. Obama lied, Bush acted based on the best information available to him (and anyone) at that time, and it turned out that the information was wrong.

BioPowertrain
Detroit, MI

Surprising to hear so many people critical of Ms. Noonan, Republicans/Conservatives and BYU for hosting way too many conservative figures vs. so few liberals. Surprising, but VERY comforting, because it appears DN readers are starting to really use their heads.

I have two degrees from BYU, and I am so grateful for my BYU education. But I was there when Helen Thomas spoke at BYU (before her anti-Jewish statements controversy) and was booed extremely loudly. Harry Reid spoke at BYU a few years ago and was roundly booed at a less-than-full Marriott Center, which was (1) super-partisan, because Mr. Reed is the most powerful Mormon politician ever, and should be honored by our faith's university as such; and (2) extremely classless, because he's a CONVERT to our faith, and should NEVER have been treated that way by good latter-day saints.

I am a former Republican, and I mean it when I say I didn't leave the Republican Party -- the Republican Party left me. I eagerly await the day the Republican party rights itself so I can come back. HURRY UP PLEASE!

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