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Published: Monday, Nov. 18 2013 7:25 p.m. MST

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sammyg
Springville, UT

Schulz did ok last week, much better than expected in my book but this ongoing drama of backup QBs, injuries, etc. is unbelievable.

Wow, the possibility of burning a redshirt during one of the last two games of the year against WAZZU or Colorado.

Just when you think things couldn't get any worse... they could.

What a continuing coaching mess this has become for the Utes.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

sammyg

"What a continuing coaching mess this has become for the Utes."

Oh sammy ... always trying to twist something into being something it's not. Please enlighten us all on how Wilson suffering a concussion and finding out he had a pre-existing medical issue, has anything at all to do with coaching.

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

Kyle Whittingham - the quarterback whisperer.

ekute
Layton, UT

So what's the big deal? Wilson, a sophomore, is injured but may return next year. Behind him we have a sophomore backup, 2 redshirt freshman and Chase Hansen in the wings. All of them quality players, btw. It's not like The Utes are going to run out of quarterbacks any time soon.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@motorbike

I'll tell you how it is. First of all whittingham has under recruited, and under valued, the position for years. The reason there is no acceptable 3rd qb is because of coaching blundering. Also whittingham did in fact tell us that utah has "two upper echelon pac12 qb's" when in fact they don't even have one "upper echelon" guy.

It is also on whittingham that he hired a 21 year old qb coach with zero experience and based on the "progress", or lack of it, by utah's qb's the last several seasons it is pretty easy to deduce that that was a very poor decision. Once again a coaching blunder.

yes I know guys have gotten hurt but if there were enough guys on scholarship that had been properly coached it would not be the dire situation it currently is. Yes it is tough to lose your starter but what utah is going through is far worse than what most schools would go through if they lost their starter.

Evidence? usu this year, they've got a pretty good guy, BYU last year, Lark did a good job, osu last year with Vaz.

ekute
Layton, UT

Ed Grady,

There is nothing in this article to indicate that Kyle is a "quarterback whisperer". The 2 most successful Ute quarterbacks in recent years were recruited by Ronnie Mac and coached by Andy Ludwig. Please expand on your comment. Or are you just trying to be disruptive?

ekute
Layton, UT

duck,

Although your not entitled, I'm going to tell you how it is. First of all, it's undisputable that Wilson was on the road to becoming an "upper echelon" quarterback before his medical problems started. The backups are unproven, we don't know that they're not "upper echelon".
Utah's backups would also prove to be "a pretty good guy" and do "a good job", given byu and USU's schedule. I don't understand your criticism of Whittingham. The fact is, that when the time comes, his replacement will be a superior coach that will continue to dominate the state and improve the Utes standing in the PAC 12.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@ekute

I don't care who utah's coach is, whittingham or someone else, utah is what they are. The geography they inhabit is not going to change. Their budget as it relates to the rest of the pac12 is not going to change. The quality of their recruiting is not going to change, in large part because of the first two things I listed.

While I would expect utah to occasionally have some better seasons than they are currently having it will be few and far between and will depend on some outside factors. For instance other teams in the pac12 will have to have down years. Teams like usc, stanford, asu, oregon, etc. will all have to have down years simultaeously for utah to find itself anywhere near the top of the pac12 because they are always going to have better talent than utah will have.

Whatever it is that makes you think utah is going to be much more than they are is a real mystery. I suppose it is simply your desire as it is not based on any sort of logic. Good luck with it but I'm positive you are going to be disappointed.

U 90
Corona, CA

motorbike & ekute,

Don't you know that sammy and duck's comments are coming from a position of strength with such stellar QBs on their side such as Heaps, Nelson and Hill who have gone a collective 0-4 against the Utes. Not to mention that Hill's QB rating at 120 is so much better than Wilson's at 130.

The Moose
Southern, UT

Sammy G and Ducky are just sore because Ute fans don't want their quarterback to go down every year and are disappointed when it happens. BYU fans spend all year hoping their quarterback will go down so the "beloved" backup can play.

Utefan4Lyf
West Jordan, UT

Duckhunter:
Actually you are incorrect right out of the gate. Our budget as it relates to the PAC 12 will increase next year, with a larger share of the television proceeds. While we won't be as well funded as Oregon or Stanford or USC, it does help.

truthsandwich
RANDOLPH, UT

These continuing quarterback injuries are awful, but the U is prepared with a backup, and backups for our backup.

I understand these byu 'fans' desperately want to spin Travis' pre-existing condition as a coaching issue. If my rival's coach was handing me an annual beat down, I'd want him gone too.

Who's your daddy?

U 90
Corona, CA

Utefan4Lyf,

duckhunter's courage begins to build every November when BYU enters that grueling part of their schedule to face:

2013
Bye
Idaho State
Nevada

2012
Bye
Idaho
New mexico State

2011
Bye
Idaho
New Mexico St.
Hawaii

Staythecourse
Ogden, UT

Lets take a pop quiz today

What is the U of U known for in the Whittingham era?

a. Having a quarterback problem every year?
b. chest pounding about being in a BCS elite conference?
c. Having a great Defense, but changing O coordinators every year?
d. Having an overconfident and irrational troll?
e. Going on 2 maybe 3, 4 or 5 straight years without a bowl game
f. All of the above

Whit will get fired next year.

Mark it down.

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

U 90
Corona, CA

And don't forget that they both went to Provo High where it would appear the Coach was taking someone's lunch money (the Duck's).

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

@ekute -

"Wilson was on the road to becoming an "upper echelon" quarterback..."

Just how many picks must one throw to be "upper echelon"?
Did he have some good outings? Yes.
But any kind of road he was on seemed like he was driving fast AWAY from your "upper echelon" status.

So, it is very disputable as to how good he was.

Staythecourse
Ogden, UT

@U90

Um, do you not know how to read a schedule or did you just conveniently leave out Notre Dame on the 2013 schedule. Last time i checked Notre Dame is squeezed between ISU and Nevada.

IF i did what you did regarding scheduling , i would say, too bad Utah didn't play Stanford this year.

OH, and you left the bowl games out too, which i don't blame you since you have forgotten what it's like to be in one.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ U90
I cheer for the Utes and the Cougs.
BYU has had terrible November slates since going independent.
Mocking this years slate is a little weak.
BYU is or has played Wisconsin and Notre Dame in November.
The Utes will play Oregon and ASU two good teams and then Wazzu and Colorado not really much better than the Nevada team that BYU is playing later this month.
If you are going mock a schedule at least be cognizant enough to display all the games in your argumentative time frame.
Utah has typically played the bottom rung of the Pac-12 in November since joining, this year being the exception (but does it really matter if you are not winning what the schedule is)
Please have a good enough argument that when you post about it you do not omit obvious contradictory facts.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Duckhunter

I don't care who utah's coach is, whittingham or someone else, utah is what they are. The geography they inhabit is not going to change. Their budget as it relates to the rest of the pac12 is not going to change. The quality of their recruiting is not going to change, in large part because of the first two things I listed.

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Your annual trip to Tulsa is not going to change.

Everything else is debatable.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Why would you burn a year of eligibilty for your star prospect if your team has nothing to win? The program and the athlete are better served by keeping him on the bench. I've been going to games there for 40 years, and like most of the fans, will be back next year whether we win or lose the last 2 games.

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