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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 19 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

The single best remedy is repeal. Americans want liberty, not forced equality. Obamacare is a pretense at both, achieving neither. We need to get rid of it.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"....Republicans oppose Obama's policies, not the man, because they believe the president will so inexorably change the structure of our social and economic system by mandating and punishing human behavior that nothing less than individual freedom is at stake...."
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I was getting frustrated wondering how long it would take Kathleen Parker to get around to saying what she was trying so hard not to say in her previous two columns on the subject. Thanks, Kathleen, but most of us already knew all of that.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Is Obama doing things legally?'

The ACA withstood scrutiny from the Supreme court.

How many times are we going to ask a ridiculous question, when we already know the answer?

Oh, wait. Some people just want a different answer.

FT
salt lake city, UT

The irony of the ACA is it's attributes are becoming more popular and supported while BO's favorability trends in the other direction. The ACA is not the most efficient way to provide health care to the masses (Medicare, Medicaid are)but it's purpose will not only survive but strengthen as time goes on. As Bob Dylan sang "the times they are changing".

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

When Parker alludes to punishing human behavior, she's referring to the individual mandate which is an idea Barack Obama borrowed from Mitt Romney. Mitt himself has been less than convincing in explaining why an idea he deemed good for Massachusetts is bad for America. I doubt that Kathleen Parker wants to even go there. But at least she's coming clean about the real reason for the GOP position, and it's not the website and other problems with the roll out. The Republicans are opposed in principle with any national healthcare program.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Will ACA survive?? Let's hope and pray NOT! This past week some Democrat's who are up for re-election in 2014 are defected to join with the GOP to amend the law and FORCE Barack's promise (if you like your insurance you can keep it) to be kept..and not just for a years time. It's sad - REALLY SAD - that we have to write new laws to FORCE the president to keep his promises. Very telling of the times we live in. I keep hearing from Democrats how we can't scrap the law and start over because that would mean abandoning the FEW good things in the law such as pre-existing conditions and children covered til age 26 on the parents plan. I agree that both of these issues are good and should be addressed in a new law but to suggest we keep 20 thousand pages of regulations full of the ugliest laws imaginable just to save two or three good ones is ridiculous. I have heard proposals of a series of new laws - replacing ACA - which create new health savings accounts and other free market innovative solutions. Time to scrap the ACA!

bandersen
Saint George, UT

If & Pagan: The ultimate question has nothing to do with the particulars of this legislation. For those who believe in liberty and freedom, the issue is much,much broader. That is why it doesn't matter whether you like all of Obamacare or none of it. It has nothing to do whether a Democrat or Republican is in office, whether black, latino, caucasion, male or female. It matters not whether their is poor in calcutta, abortions in Zambia, or slavery in Somalia. It matters not whether you support Gay marriage, polygamy, or Miley Cyrus. It doesn't matter if you want to call me (us) uncaring, unforgiving, or apathetic. I could care less whether you think the minimum wage should be $7:50 an hour or $100.00, whether you want a law banning coal fired plants or hair dryers, whether houses should be made of wood or refabricated paper from peru. If in any of those things, and a host of others, government infringes upon liberty and is acted upon by cowardly politicians, it will never get my support. It is that simple. Far from being an anarchist, America can do much better. Repealing Obamacare is just a beginning.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Let us not overlook some factors impeding success of the ACA.

Republican-led states refusing to develop their own exchange system, (ironic since Republicans demand states rights)
Republican-led states refusing to expand Medicaid.

Insurance companies cancelling ACA compliant health plans in order to sell more expensive plans--something largely unreported in the media.

Overtime the kinks will be worked out, more people will sign up for ACA and will be pleasantly surprised.

If not, we risk returning to the status quo--millions without insurance, medical bankruptcies, higher mortality rates.
OR
Single-payer which is what we should've done to begin with. Insurance companies continue to prove themsleves putting profit over people any way they can.

Kimber
Salt Lake City, UT

There was no way to tell exactly how "open enrollment" would go with such an undertaking (insuring the countries uninsured). The glitches that have happened couldn't be totally planned for. Keep in mind that an uninsured person has until December 15 to become insured by January 1, 2014. Also, a person has until March to be insured by the end of March.
There are accusations that people were lied to about being to keep their own plan. Yes, in theory a person can. But if the insurance company decides to cancel a person, that says more about the insurance company doing it than it says about the ACA. The ACA is designed to make things fair for the insured person and if an insurance can't keep the requirements, then the insured probably should change to a plan that qualifies (no pre-existing condition, no caps and so forth). Also now, people can keep a canceled plan for a year while they try and find a better plan. These plans were canceled because they do not keep ACA requirements.

Kimber
Salt Lake City, UT

There are people here that want to "get rid" of it. This is not going to happen. The good rules within the ACA helps people so they don't go bankrupt because of denials and so forth and has been going for going on three years. And in my case, it helps a person get health insurance in the first place. The people that are already insured under a group plan are fine, but it's those of us that got denied for pre-existing conditions on a personal plan that this affects. There were very few cancelled plans and they were because they were not keeping the good and fair requirements of the ACA. Now those people can keep them and shop around for better plans. As for me, I will get a plan for the first time in seven years.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'America can do much better.'

Then by all means.

Tell me what the Republican alternative is.

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Pagan "...withstood scrutiny from the Supreme court."

That's not what she's talking about. The question is whether Obama has legal authority to ignore the effective dates of provisions of the law. Congress set those dates, and the Constitution demands that the president see that laws are faithfully executed. Yet he has unilaterally postponed the employer mandate for a year, and now proposes the same for the individual mandate.

Some say that he can ignore the law in order to protect it from its own stupidity. Others say he can't. That's the legal question.

@Truthseeker "Single-payer..."

What would that solve? It wouldn't suddenly enable Obama to build and run a website. It wouldn't make the outsized list of mandatory benefits any smaller. It wouldn't bestow upon Obama the ability to administer government, when he's never run anything besides an election campaign. It wouldn't magically make him truthful.

We'd be out of the frying pan, into the fire.

@Kimber

Obamacare is driving insurance companies to drop non-compliant plans. They didn't just wake up one morning and decide to do it.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

is Obama doing things legally? Is this a SERIOUS question?

Of Course not, when has this guy ever done things legal?

Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Drones, Spying, QE1, QE2, QE3, Obamacare, Egyptian military strike, Black Panthers intimidating little old white lady voters......there is nothing this President wont stoop to, to carry out his crooked ideology!

IMPEACH OBAMA

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Don't confuse universal health care with the ACA. The ACA is a flawed program run by incompetent bureaucrats and perpetuated by serial lies. There is little wonder that it is failing. Mr. Obama believes in his heart that if something good is to be done, only the government can do it, or to quote his campaign rhetoric about success, "You didn't do that, the government did."

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:Kimber

Parts of the law may benefit you but there are millions that are getting destroyed by this new law. Should we keep the law for you and ignore the millions who are suffering? Perhaps we should just pretend that there aren't any suffering Americans as you suggested or that it's all their (the peoples) fault? People like yourself on the left never cease to depress me.

Noodlekaboodle
Poplar Grove, UT

@Patriot
How are millions being destroyed by this new law? I know that some people(mainly those who are self insured)lost their exact plan and have to purchase new ones. I also know that some plans will cost more(mainly going from a plan with little to no coverage to an actual insurance plan) but i'm curious how people have been destroyed?

bandersen
Saint George, UT

If & Pagan: The ultimate question has nothing to do with the particulars of this legislation. For those who believe in liberty and freedom, the issue is much,much broader. That is why it doesn't matter whether you like all of Obamacare or none of it. It has nothing to do whether a Democrat or Republican is in office, whether black, latino, caucasion, male or female. It matters not whether their is poor in calcutta, abortions in Zambia, or slavery in Somalia. It matters not whether you support Gay marriage, polygamy, or Miley Cyrus. It doesn't matter if you want to call me (us) uncaring, unforgiving, or apathetic. I could care less whether you think the minimum wage should be $7:50 an hour or $100.00, whether you want a law banning coal fired plants or hair dryers, whether houses should be made of wood or refabricated paper from peru. If in any of those things, and a host of others, government infringes upon liberty and is acted upon by cowardly politicians, it will never get my support. It is that simple. Far from being an anarchist, America can do much better. Repealing Obamacare is just a beginning.

FT
salt lake city, UT

This president will veto any effort to drastically kill this legislation. Unless the GOP either gets elected to a veto proof majority in 2014 or wins the White House in 2016 the ACA will continue to be the law of the land. Currently the GOP and their policies have a much lower approval rating than BO or the Democrats, so the chances of that happening in the next 2 elections are slim. I fear the GOP will continue to pursue a path that only weakens their position and our country's further.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@TRUTH,

Regarding impeachment, be very careful about what you may be advocating. If Obama were to be impeached and, convicted by a 2/3’s vote in the Senate, Joe Biden would become President.

Are you sure impeachment is the answer?

Kimber
Salt Lake City, UT

With everything happening with health reform recently, I keep remembering this story from 2010. It’s a real tearjerker, but it reminds me why we are fighting every day to make sure that every American has access to health care. It’s worth a read.

CINDY MERCER JONES -- March 19, 2010 11:25 am

"My beautiful daughter, Courtney Leigh Huber was an insulin dependent diabetic who was kicked off her father's insurance the day she graduated from college. To try to conserve her insulin, she attempted to wean herself off her nighttime insulin dosage. She slipped into a coma and never woke up." (You can hear more heartfelt health care stories here.)

This week, we got back in contact with Cindy to let her know how much her story motivates us all. Here’s what she said:

It’s inspiring to know that Cindy -- because of all of your work -- won’t have to worry about her son being kicked off health insurance for having a pre-existing condition.

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