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Published: Monday, Nov. 18 2013 10:21 a.m. MST

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Provo, ut

Oh yes that golden age of the 50's, at least it looked golden on television. Back then the poor were desperately poor, not the poor cell phone, TV, car owners of today. Being plump was a sign of wealth because the poor were skinny due to malnutrition (not like today) I think our prosperity of the 50's had more to do with 20 cent oil and the surpluses of the war economy. And as eastcoast says stable families and a work ethic that encouraged people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps rather than the attitude of living off the government that is so prevalent today.

Cedar Hills, UT

this home looks to be in the 2-3 million range ...perhaps more. Your annual income would have to exceed 1 million per year to afford such a home as this.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I fear that at some point, like in the Batman movies, we'll have a Bane show up, stir up the 99% and they will take all of the super rich's wealth and trash the mansions. The super rich can give a little bit of their own wealth by their (relatively) free will, or it will be taken some day the ugly way. And if we do it Bane's way, I think it will be ugly for 100% of us, so maybe some slight redistribution through higher taxes or whatever on corporations or the super rich might be the way to go. Like him or not, FDR might have saved our country from a socialist revolution similar to what happened in Russia with the New Deal, which did in fact shared the wealth (peacefully)...

Salt Lake City, UT

In other words, we are going backwards! We will have a society of the very rich at the top who have the wealth and power to control what happens to the rest of us. This is why it should scare people a little when they start talking about all the lazy people in our country! Who do you think they are referring to? People better get a reality check, because the middle class is part of what others see as users! Look at Walmart, they came out with a charity drive to help their own employees! Does that tell you something? It wouldn't occur to them that they should raise their employee wages! Let us all go back to a time when a person worked 18 hours a day just to barely get by while the royals and elite at the top took everything! We are putting a worth on people! It isn't bad to be rich, but when we allow the few to dictate what our work is worth, it isn't going to be good! How much are we worth? I guess nothing! a bunch of low class users! And the rich? They don't use anyone?

Salt Lake City, UT

To those people who keep talking about redistributing the wealth, as if we want to steal from the wealthy. What, may I ask, do you think the wealthy are doing!!! You don't think that they position themselves in such a way as to shift the wealth to themselves? You are a fool if you don't realize it! Go ahead, let them do it! Don't expect a good wage because that is putting a demand on the rich. Why don't you go work for nothing if you feel so strongly about it! We shouldn't get insurance or medicaid or social security because it is redistributing wealth!!! Gee, I guess we are a worthless bunch of lower class people! Meanwhile, the wealthy go to work and they earn all that wealth( By themselves! ) they don't require the aid of anybody? A factory runs itself with only the rich man doing any work??? So, let them call you lazy, because I know that I am not! If we, as the working class people, don't stand up for ourselves, then guess what will happen. People are so stupid!


A higher proportion of the 1% (two in five) than the 99% (one in five) has inherited money, according to the Federal Reserve survey. The top earners got 10% of the inherited wealth in the country.

91.1% of Americans receive no inheritance.
Income is what people earn from work, but also from dividends, interest, and any rents or royalties that are paid to them on properties they own. In theory, those who own a great deal of wealth may or may not have high incomes, depending on the returns they receive from their wealth, but in reality those at the very top of the wealth distribution usually have the most income. (But it's important to note that for the rich, most of that income does not come from "working": in 2008, only 19% of the income reported by the 13,480 individuals or families making over $10 million came from wages and salaries.

The ratio of CEO pay to factory worker pay in 1960 was 42:1 In 2000, 531:1.

From 1990-2005, CEOs' pay increased almost 300% (adjusted for inflation). Production workers, 4.3%.
(Who Rules America)


The top 1% paid an average income tax rate of 24% in 2009, IRS data shows. That is almost exactly the rate paid by those making $500,000 to $1 million. Those who made $1 million to $10 million paid a higher rate, 26 percent. But those making more than $10 million paid a significantly lower rate, 23.3%.

The top 400 taxpayers paid a much lower rate. On an average income of $270 million each, their effective federal income tax rate was 18.1% in 2008, the latest year for which we have IRS data. A single worker earning less than $90,000 pays a higher rate than that.
(David Cay Johnston "Beyond the 1%")

Salem, UT

"There's class warfare, all right, But it's my class , the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning"- Warren Buffett
and just for fun
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes"- Mark Twain

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

It's interesting that the most democrat and liberal places have the super rich in their midst. The same people that keep voting for change, yet keep getting richer....

Hmmm.... the problem is the poor, minority voters that they rely on not only for their labor but also for their votes, won't be given access to this information. Thus they keep voting for the very people that will keep them in poverty and dependent on their paycheck being redistributed to them as they see fit.

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