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Published: Sunday, Nov. 17 2013 9:15 p.m. MST

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BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ Chris B
Every college program pulls scholarships. A university has a right to pull scholarships, I don't agree with it but I bet if you look at any school they have pulled scholarships.
Both of these athletes are graduating so the University has fulfilled it's commitment to it athletes.
If you hire someone to do a job and they do it but they want to stick around and have you pay them for a more expensive (graduate) job. Is it dishonest to say no?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Be Smart,

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

"If you hire someone to do a job and they do it but they want to stick around and have you pay them for a more expensive (graduate) job."

That is not a complete sentence. If seems like you're missing the second half of that sentence.

If....then.... is probably the format you're going for. But you didn't include the then.

And yes, recruits are going to hear about this. These guys sacrificed their bodies and now bronco is leaving them high and dry when they want to play? poor form.

Smart, let me know what you were trying to say there, I'd love to have a conversation about it.

Thanks

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

When a college offers a scholarship and a player accepts, it is like signing a work contract.
As long as the athlete fulfills their obligations to the University has the "right" to provide the athlete a scholarship (university's have the right to pull a scholarship at any time, just like a boss can fire someone, athletes do not have this right)
Most Universities do not pull scholarships until the athletes graduate (as Mathews and Holt will do) because it hurts their graduation numbers.
A universities obligation is to provide a scholarship until an athlete graduates, once they graduate universities have a right to stop providing the money to an athlete without penalty. (I imagine a full ride scholly to a school like BYU is $12000 a year that is a guess)
Just like a company has the right to terminate an employee who underperforms if it is in a contract.
BYU fulfilled their obligation of a free education and I son't blame them for not wanting to provide more money to these athletes.
Utah signed a basketball player Josh Hearlihy last year, and then pulled the offer because he became ill.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Once a letter of intent is signed the University has the obligation to provide at least a year's scholarship.
What is the worst offense in recruits eyes pull a scholarship after providing a free education or getting out of everything because a young man becomes ill?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@BeSmart, I actually did understand, sorry that wasn't obvious. I just wanted to point out your posts are usually full of part sentences and bizarre structuring.

Recruits still are not going to like this, if they want to play as long as they can and they see Bronco wont support them if they get hurt(for him) along the way.

Poor form by Bronco.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Chris B
So a coach getting a full education for his players and the saying that is enough is worse than a coach getting a player to sign a national letter of intent and then saying after a player become ill "sorry we don't want you anymore"?

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

By the way
I could care less about my sentence structure or wording.
I usually write a comment between phone calls or running some analysis.
If it was a big deal in my life, I would take time to articulate my points, but c'mon this is not very important.
I have been published in scientific journals 5 times in the last 4 years.
My wording on comment boards has no point in anything.
Have a good day

Swimmer
Honeyville, UT

It's very simple, BYU has 31 scholarship athletes returning from missions. As they try to calculate who is finishing their 4 years and opening up a scholarship several years down the road, the one factor that is impossible to predict is the number of injured players who may qualify for a hardship redshirt. I imagine that they sometimes have more that qualify than can be accommodated. So do you keep them the additional year and deny the promised scholarship to a player who may contribute for 4 years or deny the hardship to a player who has a year remaining and may have been a marginal contributor? That's the coach's call.

It is also the reality of college sports. My son just returned from his mission and is attending the Y on athletic scholarship in one of the Olympic sports. They make it very clear up front that the scholarships are based on performance and they are good for one year at a time. I imagine the football coaches make that clear to their players. I am not dissing on Matthews or Holt. They are graduating and there is a scholarship crunch. Tough decisions have to be made.

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