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  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 22, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    Well, the season isn't all bad, you did manage to win the BYU Bowl again this year. That's the only game that REALLY matters to Kyle and his utes anyways.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2013 1:45 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    "...the most recent bowl game projections have us slotted into The New Era Pin Stripe Bowl Game against an AAC team!"

    Good luck with that, expecting a mediocre team with a fan base that doesn't travel well to get an invite to attend a bowl game almost 2,000 miles away.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    Here is the true scenario:

    - The latest BCS Poll has Utah ranked 52nd

    - Most of the bowls that might be looking for an at-large team are located over a thousand miles from SLC

    - Bowls are all about making money

    - Utah fans don't travel particularly well, especially for a 6-6 team

    - Before an at-large 6-6 team can be invited, ALL teams with better records have to be invited

    Bottom line:

    Even if Utah manages to win its last two games, how many bowls would even be interested in inviting an mediocre 6-6 team with a fan base that doesn't travel well to a bowl over 1,000 miles away?

    As Duckhunter said, the chances of Utah getting a bowl invitation are extremely remote.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 21, 2013 8:11 a.m.

    I'm hunting Wabbit........

  • AFMech APO, AE
    Nov. 20, 2013 5:35 a.m.

    @azute

    What Duckhunter said.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 6:21 p.m.

    @azute

    lol

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 19, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    The PAC-12 Conference remains solidly in 2nd place behind the sec in the latest Conference Power Rankings and in fact gained ground on them....The fact that its current 10th place team beat Stanford and played the others to w/in inches of securing victory, excepting solely UO up there in Eugene this last Saturday w/their B.U. QB, not to mention having done so while playing against the currently #1 ranked SOS in the nation, speaks to the overall top-to-bottom strength of our conference and unequivocally would be strongly factored into/considered by any bowl game committee considering extending an invitation to our 6-6 U, should they expectedly win both of their two remaining regular season games and in fact become bowl eligible!

    The latest BCS Poll includes 5 of our opponents, which again bodes extremely well for us in this very scenario....Go Utes!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 9:39 a.m.

    @co ute

    Nothing you posted changes the fact that utah could win their last two games and still finish 10th, all the rest is possibilities just like the one I posted so your little "dig a little deeper" comment is basically meaningless.

    That said the pac12 still only has 7 bowl tie ins and an 8th place utah team would still be on the outisde looking in, they have to hope to finish 7th, which is a very unlikely scenario, to guaranty a bowl spot. While the individual bowls the pac12 is tied into have a pecking order for choice of teams they do not get to choose outside of the top 7 and take an 8th place team instead. That means utah has to hope for an at large invite from a bowl whose tie in didn't qualify, an even more unlikely scenario. If you look at the bowls that might have an opening most are quite distant from here which even lessens the likelihood of utah being invited.

    Really a bowl game for utah is a very long shot at this point even if they do qualify but i suppose you never know.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 19, 2013 4:09 a.m.

    BTW, the most recent bowl game projections have us slotted into The New Era Pin Stripe Bowl Game against an AAC team!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 19, 2013 4:01 a.m.

    It should be noted that WAZZU was coming off of a bye-week and ua had just lost an emotional heartbreaker against UCLA....I remember WAZZU putting a scare into Stanford on the road last year following a bye-week, losing by merely one TD, only then to come to R.E.S. and get brutally curb-stomped by us, 49-6.

    People wish to compare our game against ua, yet conveniently avoid equally comparing what Stanford did to them up there in Pullman....WAZZU has gotten utterly smashed at home in their previous three games.

    We're mere inches away from having merely one loss on our record....We're close and these byu fans talking trash on here know it....I can only imagine the implosion down there in utah county, if byu were to have played against our same, identical stretch of a back-to-back-to-back-to-back, etc., grindof a schedule....Meanwhile, they place a bye-week before Wisc like they did before us and lose both games and then place essentially another bye-week before ND in ISU....Utterly hysterical....And I unequivocally love our schedule, mind you!

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:52 p.m.

    @Duckhunter - regarding your wish that the Utes win 6 games and don't go to a bowl being the 10th best team in the conference ... you might want to dig a little deeper before making that statement. If Utah does goes 6-6 (repeat IF), that would mean WSU would need to beat UW to get to 6 wins, possible but not likely. Arizona could easily lose their last 2 games (UCLA and ASU) to finish 6-6 and on a 4 game losing streak. Realistically Utah, in this scenario, would be the 8th team from the conference to go to a bowl game.

    Before any of this becomes worthy of discussion, Utah needs to win at WSU this week.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 8:36 p.m.

    The truth is Utah could improve over the next couple of years and still not see much, if any, improvement in their record. No one in the PAC-12 circles the Utah game at the beginning of the year or considers Utah a rivalry game. I doubt any team would say they played their best game of the year against Utah.

    The U is a breather game for PAC-12 teams and while that surely showed against Stanford, it should work to their favor far more often. They should win a couple of conference games on talent alone (e.g., Colorado, Cal, WSU) and then win two or three more because teams are looking past them.

    While Utah fans think they hung with Oregon for most of the game on Saturday, it was mostly because Oregon came into the game flat (their BCS championship dreams lost), took awhile to show any interest, hit stride for a quarter and then took their foot off the gas in the 4th quarter. They lost by 3+ touchdowns to a team whose head was in the game for only one quarter.

    I wish the U the best in the future.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Nov. 18, 2013 7:20 p.m.

    @Tators,

    Love your posts, bro! I too root for the Utes when they're not playing the Cougars but I'm neutral when they and USU play each other. And frankly, I'm one Cougar fan who still hold out hope they will win their last two games and be invited to play us in San Fran. CB seems quite sure the Utes will beat the Cougars again and that may very well be. But I still want Van Noy and Hoffmann and the other seniors to have another crack at them. I think that will be a lot fun to see.

    Go Cougars! Go Utes! Go Aggies!

  • byufanman west valley city, utah
    Nov. 18, 2013 6:53 p.m.

    Utah fans! All of you realize that WSU is 5 and 5 in conference play right? They play Utah this weekend and their rival Washington the next. It's my opinion that coach Leach will want his team to become bowl eligible this week being that the're playing a team that is very winnable. The likelihood of WSU going to Washington in 2 weeks and winning? Not a chance. Washington State has much more to play for. Good luck utes.

  • Gone fishin PAC Country, WA
    Nov. 18, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    With 2 weeks to play yet the conferences will fill out their bowl commitments and leave the utes at home, again, this year, even if they win out, which they won't. So we can just drop all this talk about a bowl game for the utes and move on to basketball where BYU OWNS the utes.

    The football season is all but over for the utes and everyone knows it. Some just won't admit it. By the way I will be in Martin Stadium cheering for the WSU Cougars.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 18, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    "I'm not worried about these last 2, we'll win."

    Chrissy - WSU beat AZ on the road last week. Something u couldn't do. How does it feel to be THE NEW WAZZU OF THE PAC 10.TWO??

    And you predict 14 point wins in your last two?? Where did that number come from?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    BTW ekute:

    I just read the news about Travis Wilson being out the rest of the season and possibly his career. I also read the comments to that article. Almost half of them (at least to that point) were from BYU fans. And every single one, without exception, was in support of Travis and Utah in dealing with that very bad news.

    As such, I truly don't believe BYU fans are as negatively obsessed with Utah as you think or are contending. I checked recent past Utah articles and found only a few counterpunch comments to anti-BYU comments. Self-justification for a negative obsession won't help you or anybody else.

    At this point in the season, it's truly best if Utah and BYU support each other and get away from the in-state team berating.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    @ ekute:

    I can't comment for other Cougar fans and you can't do so for other Ute fans. So I'm speaking only for myself whenever I comment and not BYU nation. I have no obsession with Utah losing. None. I was pulling hard for them to take down Oregon last Saturday... just like I did when they played and beat Stanford. The only games each year I don't pull for them is when they play USU and BYU.

    I do still stick up for BYU and USU when Ute fans overdo things negatively in comments, which unfortunately still happens all too often.

    The last thing expected after reading this article was a comment talking only about a game played by BYU early in the year and totally unrelated to the Utes. Such things only stir the pot between BYU and Ute fans. So yes, your comment does very much make it seem that you are still obsessed with BYU in a very negative way. It actually seems kind of sad at this point.

    The Utes still have something to play for this season. Concentrate on that and forget about criticizing other teams. Be the bigger man.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 18, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    @Scores

    Don't worry, it won't be the New Mexico bowl.

  • The Solution Dayton, OH
    Nov. 18, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    I don't like agreeing with Chris B in most cases, but I have to agree that a bowl-eligible Utah has a good chance of getting invited to San Francisco. There would certainly be more BYU fans happy about that than Utah fans, as it isn't fun playing the same team you already beat a second time. For Utah, there wouldn't be much to gain from that game as they already have rivalry bragging rights this year, four-in-a-row, and a bonus 2 years of bragging until 2016. BYU would have a lot to play for in that game.

    Unfortunately for U, the Hunger Bowl is the most probable if Utah wins these next two games. I think they can do it, as Utah has been in almost every loss this year, excepting Oregon; but, as KW said, most teams lose their wheels against Oregon.

    Good luck the rest of the season.

  • Gone fishin PAC Country, WA
    Nov. 18, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    Just checked and there are 34 bowl games which means that 68 teams will be invited to participate. Utah WILL NOT be one of those. I could not find a date on the Moral Victory bowl so I am guessing there is no payout for that one for the utes. Sad to think that things on the hill have sunk that low. I used to be a utes fan but Chris B, ekute, and the likes have changed all that.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    "Oh well. It's obvious the obsession still continues!"

    Have you read the comments under the Utes articles the last couple of days?

    The truth hurts you and and your friends so much that you celebrate Utah's struggles to the point of singing Christmas songs. 200 comments from the byu "fans" following the Utah loss. 20 comments from the same fans following the byu win. Obsession with the relevant team in the state that you can't beat resides in happy valley.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 18, 2013 12:06 p.m.

    Go 6-6 and let's count how many fans show up in New Mexico. Isn't that the bowl all the fans have been bashing on for so long? Chris B will be the head cheerleader saying how great it is to be in a bowl game.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    @ Chris B:

    I can guarantee you that the last thing BYU is worried about right now is whether or not they would be able to beat in a bowl game against a team on a 4 game skid. It would take a lot of research to figure out the last time (if ever) that BYU lost to a team coming off of a 4 game losing streak.

    Playing and beating Notre Dame is multiple times more important to them right now. The last Utah game is comparatively ancient history. If the opportunity to play Utah does come up again, both the BYU team and their fans would enjoy the chance to show how much things have changed since early in the season.

    Didn't you also give us a "mark it down" type of statement about Utes going bowling last year? Why is this year any different at this point? Personally, I hope the Utes do win out and go bowling. I sincerely wish them well. But after watching their last game, it's hard to feel very optimistic right now... especially not knowing when Travis Wilson will be back.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:47 a.m.

    Hopefully Travis Wilson can recover. I hope the Utes are able to defeat WSU and Colorado and play BYU in the fight hunger bowl in SF. BYU needs a chance to redeem itself for the four straight loses at the hands of Utah.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    @ ekute:

    Seriously! This article is 100% about how Utah is currently doing and 0% about BYU... and the only thing you can come up with is to talk about BYU's first game of the season. How totally irrelevant!

    Both teams have changed dramatically since the first of the year and all you want to do is talk about past and fairly old history of another team besides your own team and besides totally out of content to this article.

    Oh well. It's obvious the obsession still continues! That's actually quite a compliment to the Cougars to have fans of other teams be so obsessed about them... no matter how their own team is doing.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    @christina

    I actually hope utah wins those last two games and is still not invited to a bowl. That will show you how much people care about utah and its place in the pac12. And I'll be honest with you here, that is a highly likely scenario. No one cares that utah is in the pac12 when it comes to national interest or prestige, at least not anyone that actually matters like say bowl committee's or poll voters.

    You know some of the other utah "fans" around here are half decent guys but you are surely an embarrassment to most of them.

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Cart before the horse talk on the hill again! No bowl again as you will be thumped soundly in Pullman by the former pac doormat. Then you can play your new rival in the pac version of the toilet bowl!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:16 a.m.

    I think the U is really a victim of the injury bug this year. Had the U kept Wilson healthy all year and kept that continuity I suspect some of the close losses would been wins. Often times a teams record looks alot worse than things really are especially when trying to play with key injuries from game to game.

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:12 a.m.

    Ute season ended with their bowl game in Provo!

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    RBN,

    If a team gives up 44 points, the defense didn't do a good enough job. I'm surprised you're arguing that point.

  • Gone fishin PAC Country, WA
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    Sorry Chrissy,
    The only bowl the utsies will qualify for is the "Moral Victory" bowl. They will have well over the 6 required moral victories. The only problem is that there are no other programs that count moral victories so the utes will win by default and can start to fill up that new trophy case with their very first trophy.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    @Chris B

    It sounds like you're REALLY hoping that Tennessee loses at home to 6-4 Vanderbilt this weekend. I can't imagine they will lose at 2-8 Kentucky the following week.

    A 6-6 Tennessee team would be guaranteed a bowl birth, whereas a 6-6 Utah team will be hoping there are enough leftovers to go around.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    @EdGrady

    What universe do you live in? Trevor Reilly needs to defend more? Have you watched a single Utah game? I'm sure you did watch the Utah-BYU game where Trevor destroyed the Y offense. 13.5 tackles for loss, 7 sacks. He needs to defend more? Come out from under the bridge and watch a game or two.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    Ore man_am_i,

    And how many times has Navy beaten army twice in one year?

    Thus, FIVE times in FOUR Years?

    LOL

    Yes, a remedial math class would be helpful for some. Or reading.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:31 a.m.

    veritas,

    I meant Army. My bad. They didn't qualify for their bowl. Also, the SEC And Big 10 are both likely to leave a bowl unplaced.

    Utah will get to 6-6 and go bowling.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    @Spokane Ute

    I'm glad that the stats are appreciated.

    Of the teams who have qualified for a bowl but won't occupy a conference bowl spot, there are already at least 3 who have 7+ wins at this point. This number will surely increase over the next couple of weeks.

    Given that the Utes' best case scenario is 6 wins, the amount of control that they have over their own bowl destiny appears pretty limited at this point.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    I think most realistic Utah fans would have told you their expectations for this season were 6 or 7 wins. Nobody would have picked that one of those wins would come against 5th ranked Stanford but they played a good clean game and got that win.

    My point is that the Utes aren't really that far off from where most thought they would be. The difference is that once they knocked off Stanford, a lot of fans and local media started predicting 8 wins etc. This conference is too good right now. There have obviously been a number of games that the Utes should have won. Most notibly the Arizona game. They played horrible in that game against a team they should have been able to beat.

    I believe the Utes have continued to close the gap in talent and there is no quick fix to the problem. The facilities are now in place and the coaching staff is good. Utah has played the top teams as close as anyone this year.

    I hope they can get two more wins to become bowl eligible, the extra practices would be huge for this team.

    Go Utes!

  • orem_man_am_i orem, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    @Chris B

    "What do you think about the prospect of setting a new NCAA Record by being the first team EVER to lose to their rival 5 times in 4 years?"

    You dont know college football to well eh? Navy is currently on an 11 game win streak versus Army - a much bigger rivalry game than Utes and Cougs will ever be.

    Perhaps a remedial math class at BYU SLC campus :)

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    @Hawkeye79

    Interesting stats and a good post; Thanks!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    @Hamrdown

    Utah's only chance for a bowl would be one that another conference can't fill. Say for instance the Big 10 or ACC don't have enough teams with 6 wins to qualify. It's a bit of a long shot even at that. The Oregon St., Arizona and ASU losses were killers.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    My favorite person in the crowd is the lady with the hood in the near center of the picture. She looks like she's going to either punch someone or break down and cry. I hope someone buys her chicken pot pie or something to cool those emotions. Nothing like a pot pie. Except maybe a hot pocket. Maybe even a hug. Hugs go a long way.

  • poundwagon South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    I am a BYU first, but also a Utah fan 50 weeks a year (football game and B-ball game weeks aside). Diehard Ute supporters need some patience. The move into the PAC 12 is a huge jump week to week compared to the previous level of competition. We heard that for years, but now we are seeing it first hand. I certainly agree it is better to lose to Arizona State in a heartbreaker than play Idaho State, a team that would lose to Bingham! Go Cougs, beat The Irish!!!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    Duckhunter,

    What do you think about the prospect of setting a new NCAA Record by being the first team EVER to lose to their rival 5 times in 4 years?

    LOL

    It takes a "special program" to be able to do that for sure

    LOL

  • Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    (cont.)

    Granted, WSU isn't a stellar team by any measure; yet they beat Arizona at home, who beat Utah. We'll also have to see what the U's QB situation is this week. Right now though, things are looking dicey for this Saturday, IMHO.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    @christina

    There are only 3 possible bowls that will be looking for an outside team, and there are far more attractive teams that utah with better records and more of a name, not to mention those bowls are all back east, a long way from the utah "fan"base. I'm not trying to just rip on them here but the chance they go to a bowl with 6 wins is probably less than 50%.

    As for the kraft fight hunger, well they have the 6th pick of pac 12 teams and I really doubt they'd take an at best 10th place utah team when they could get a top 6 pac12 team but I suppose a girl can dream.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    "... We gave them four touchdowns basically.”

    This Reilly guy needs to talk less and defend more.

  • Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    Utah's skid into its 2nd annual PAC-12 doormatdom is looking more and more likely. WSU is a team on the rise, while Utah has been getting worse by the week. While I'd like to see the Utes succeed and go bowling, I think those dreams may very well be upended this Saturday in Pullman, WA.

    Perhaps if the Utes just pretend that the red cougars are wearing white and blue, they may change their fate...but even that may not be enough this year.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    The big remaining question for the Utes is: How many bowl slots from other conferences will go unfilled?

    ACC: 8 bowl tie-ins, 8 teams already eligible (4 more possible)
    AAC: 6 bowl tie-ins, 4 teams already eligible (3 more possible)
    Big 12: 7 bowl tie-ins, 6 teams already eligible
    Big Ten: 8 bowl tie-ins, 7 teams already eligible (2 more possible)
    CUSA: 7 bowl tie-ins, 6 teams already eligible (3 more possible)
    Mid-American: 3 bowl tie-ins, 6 teams already eligible (1 more possible)
    Mountain West: 6 bowl tie-ins, 4 teams already eligible (4 more possible)
    Pac-12: 7 bowl tie-ins, 8 teams already eligible (2 more possible)
    SEC: 10 bowl tie-ins, 9 teams already eligible (3 more possible)
    Sun Belt: 2 bowl tie-ins, 4 teams already eligible (3 more possible)

    The best hope for the Utes is that several other conferences do not fill their remaining spots. It will likely need to be a decent number of unfilled spots, because I can't imagine them being selected over a team from the Pac-12 or another conference with a better record, or Notre Dame.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    Chris B
    Salt Lake City, UT

    hamrdown,

    But you're forgetting there are other conferences that don't have enough teams. Navy isn't going to qualify for their bowl too.
    ===

    If Utah can win out, they will have the Stanford win, and a two game win streak.

    If thethat happens, I fully expect Utah to be in a bowl game.

    ChrisB- Navy qualiried for the Armed Services Bowl...

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    @hamrdown

    Utah will be much better off vs. WSU as the Cougars are one dimensional. So, that means that Rowe won't make any plays but he'll keep most of the plays in front of him. Michael Walker has also not been stellar. If the Utes had a top notch free safety as in years past, I think this would be Utah's best defense in the past ten years. With a top safety tandem, I think the season would be vastly different.

    The offensive line play was much improved this week. That has me hopeful.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    hamrdown

    The San Francisco bowl would choose a Utah team with the 6th pick because they know a byu/Utah matchup would sell tickets.

    That's why.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    hamrdown,

    But you're forgetting there are other conferences that don't have enough teams. Navy isn't going to qualify for their bowl too.

    Utah WILL go bowling.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    TFUDD

    SLC, UT

    I've heard from a few people(don't know how reliable the source is) that because of the severity of the head injury that his football career is over.
    ===

    I hope that the young man is going to be alright. I guess we wait for what Whit has to say...

  • sherlock holmes Eastern, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    Chris B.

    You ARE like Coach Whit. Thinking the BYU win will carry you through a 1-8 season in the PAC12, and keep you employed.

    Get beyond it man. I hope Whit does, too, cause I like the guy. But the Utes need a bowl game, any bowl game at this point. The realistic Ute fans know the time is short to produce -- especially since there is no BYU game to fall back on for the next two seasons.

    I personally think that a loss to Colorado next week will doom Whit and set the program back on its heels. Pray for 'em to win, Chris B.

  • hamrdown OREM, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    First, @RBN, I agree with you and Eric Rowe missing assignments. What is going to happen this week with WSU throwing the ball 50-60 times in the game (or more)? How many missed assignments will happen.

    Second, even if the Utes win their last 2 games, I do not think they will go to a bowl. The PAC only has 7 bowl tie-ins and they already have 8 teams qualified for bowls - and all 8 have winning records. So, even if Utah finishes at .500, why would a bowl choose them over a team with a winning record? I just don't think it will happen.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    @Lone Star

    Be careful what you wish for, meeting Utah in the bowl game.

    Do you really want to set a new NCAA record for losing to your rival FIVE times in FOUR years?

    LOL

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    I'm not worried about these last 2, we'll win. Our defense has been playing outstanding lately. Reilly has made himself the best linebacker in the state. With the little experience that Shulz now has will be a benefit too.

    I think we'll beat WSU and Colorado by at least 14 each.

    And I'm also fully behind Coach Whit. He's taken us to top 5 rankings, and he'll do so again. These close games we've had this year PROVE we're not that far off from competing for Pac 12 titles. We could give Whitingham a 10 year deal as far as I'm concnerned. The guy is great.

  • Rez Road Shiprock, NM
    Nov. 18, 2013 7:56 a.m.

    AZUTE1
    Thank you. I agree completely.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 18, 2013 7:39 a.m.

    Dissapointing for sure. It would be nice to win the last two, but WSU will be far from a gimmie. For what ever the reason, Utah just can't seem to get the QB spot figured out.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 18, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    "How much longer will Utah fans support Coach Whitt?"

    From Kevin Gemmell--

    "I think you have to give Utah at least four seasons in the Pac-12 -- a full class cycle -- before you can start passing judgment on Whittingham. Remember, not only are they adjusting to a higher level of play every week, but they need a grace period to re-work how they operate their program. Utah is seeing television money never thought possible in the Mountain West, and part of the learning curve is figuring out the proper way to appropriate that funding. Hiring Dennis Erickson is a great start -- a move they never would have been able to make financially in a non-AQ conference. Nor would a non-AQ team be able to attract a big-name coach like Erickson to be a coordinator. Let the money sink in, let the new facilities work their magic on recruits and if Utah has a four- or five-year bowl drought, then you can open up discussions. But Whittingham -- who I believe to be an outstanding coach -- should be sitting on ice for now."

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 11:34 p.m.

    How much longer will Utah fans support Coach Whitt? The answer is coming in one week. If there is no win, my bet is Whitt will be unemployed by January of 2015 fi he does not produce a winning season. The hot seat is warming up...

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 10:32 p.m.

    Missed assignments? Blame Eric Rowe for most of them. He has hurt this defense all season long.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 10:31 p.m.

    Still it's wonderful to be in the PAC 12 despite being tied for last place and will be an underdog against... Washington State. I'm assuming that's the party line.

  • TFUDD SLC, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 10:01 p.m.

    I've heard from a few people(don't know how reliable the source is) that because of the severity of the head injury that his football career is over.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 10:00 p.m.

    Thud

    U've arrived, nowhere to go but up from here.

    Two more games to turn things around!

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    Nov. 17, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    C'mon Utes! Win these next two games. Maybe you can play BYU again in a bowl game? That would be some fun for both teams.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 8:55 p.m.

    The faces in the crowd say it all!