So now the elephant in the room had been acknowledged. Whit can't just
beat BYU and keep the hoards happy. The search committee has been activated.
If Kyle manages to save his job, he should start leveling with his fans about
the true quality of his quarterbacks. Either Kyle is totally clueless about
evaluating and recruiting quarterback talent, or he can see that he's been
a miserable failure and has just been blowing smoke in praise of the quality of
his quarterbacks.As far as the health of his quarterbacks, Kyle has
been far from candid and it's destroyed his credibility with his fans.
A scathing but honest article written by an Aggie. This won't bode well in
Not to make light of the seriousness of concussions, but it seems a bit strange
that Travis suddenly sustained a concussion on the eve of the Oregon game. We've heard a lot about Wilson's hand injuries, but nothing
about a concussion, and nothing that happened during the Arizona State game gave
any inkling that Travis has suffered a concussion. So, how and when did this
mysterious "concussion" occur? Is this legit, or is Whittingham just
playing games and trying to manipulate public opinion to save his job?
Tough being a quarterback. You're either in the penthouse, or doghouse.Work with what you have. Wilson is a good QB.
Only in your dreams, hedgelog, does Utah's definition of success hinge on
their continued ownership of byu and Provo. You and the rest of the byu fan
base don't realize it but elite pressure to win goes hand in hand with an
elite conference. Coach Whitt knows it and so do Utah fans. Your
cougs scheduled a bye before the Utah game, pulled out the magic uniforms, and
motor mouth KVN made his "blood bath" predictions about the
"Superbowl" with Utah and got the same result...utter disappointment of
byu fans. This team has demonstrated enough this year that Coach
Whitt has nothing to worry about. However, his loyalty to assistant coaches has
to end, now. If they aren't getting the job done, they need to be
replaced. Start with the Offensive Line and evaluate each skill position. byu fans will love this article today as they head into their
mid-November slug fest with Idaho St.
I agree with everything written in this article. Travis has been awful and if
whit can't figure this out, then we need a new coach!
MyPerspectiveLOL at your blind denial of reality.Even
the "home of the Utes" radio station was saying just this morning that
Utah's only meaningful wins were against their biggest rival and against
Stanford.The constant chest-beating from the kids on the hill about
Utah's four-game winning streak versus BYU is proof positive that Utah fans
still consider beating BYU their #1 goal every season.btw, there is
no "elite pressure" on perennial conference bottom dwellers, even when
they're in a supposedly "elite" conference.
MyPerspective:"Only in your dreams, hedgelog, does Utah's
definition of success hinge on their continued ownership of byu and Provo.
"I don't think that's what hedgelog was saying. I
think he was saying that is what has made Chris Hill have patience with Whit and
not fire him. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any other reason for
Whit to be in Hill's good graces. I mean, the Utes are going backwards, not
progressing in terms of record in the PAC12. If not for wins against BYU, what
else can possibly be saving Whit's job?
What if the utes win today?Doghouse to penthouse.
Let's get over this "elite conference" garbage. The problem with
the University of Utah athletics programs ever since their conference upgrade
has been that their identity has switched to PAC-12 member first, and University
of Utah a distant second. Until the athletic department and fans step up and be
proud of their team first, they will always be a bottom dweller in the
conference. If you keep identifying your team as a member of a "tough, elite
conference," you will always have an excuse for the teams' losing
records. Put the team first. Forget about the conference, and focus
on winning your games. Forget about the excuses, and turn around the team. I
would like to see all of our major teams in the state represent us
well--regardless of whether they belong to an elite conference or are an
independent. Believe it or not, that PAC 12 logo that is displayed everywhere
means very little when you have a losing record. Honestly, it means very little
when you have a winning record.
I disagree, I see improvement from the last few years.I can only see
Kyle being fired if he loses out. Losing to Colorado 2 of the last 3 years will
do it. I think even if we go 5-7 it gives Kyle at least another
year. One just has to look at Gary Patterson at TCU (4-6) and the struggles
they are having in the Big 12, and they're playing the #34 SOS not #1.If we go 4-8 who takes over? Dennis Erickson? Or do we go hire someone
like Gary Patterson? NOPE! So Kyle won't be fired, but I would expect
position coaches like QB Coach BJ and OL coach Dan Finn to be replaced.
WHOA!!Let's not go overboard with the "Can Kyle"
talk.He will have this job until he loses to BYU, and that won't
happen for years.There is only one of the team goals that is a guaranteed
job saver...Beat BYU.The other goals are unattainable for the next
decade.So Utes hang their hats on the "four in a row"
dominance.MARK IT DOWN
A real "stir 'em up" article. Kind of like the talking heads on the
celeb shows on TV. Say something outrageous and get the audience to pay
attention.The fact is that Coach Whit is one of the best coaches in
the country and he's gotten the team closer and closer to where he wants
them to be. Three losses by less than 4 point each this season. Chris Hill is
way to smart to let Whittingham go anywhere.
If you can't see significant improvement from last year to this year, then
you don't know football. Whittingham is not on the hot seat yet. Letting
him go now would likely set the program back several years. Look what happened
with basketball for the last 3 coaches. Whittingham should get two more years
to get this team to a winning record in the Pac-12.
"[Wilson] has been so awful, many backups across the league probably would
have done better." This is true. I think Jon Hays would have gotten us a
couple more wins this year.
Whatever happens, we should not burn Manning's redshirt year. If Schulz
goes down, we should just go to the wildcat -- direct snap to Bubba Poole.
I realize that the author of this article is just a kid, but there is no excuse
for any decent editor to allow rank insulting speculation to run as supposed
meaningful commentary. For example, the lame insinuation that Wilson's
concussion is fabricated. If you don't have actual information, don't
make baseless allegations. This is just amateur hour for a writer and a
publication. If you write for publication you have a responsibility. Fulfill it,
or find another profession.
The only thing we have left this year is to bash byu about how we won them again
and that makes us feel better. But we are still in a bcs confrence and that
makes us more prestegous than byu even when we lose.Go Utes!
I agree with IFIUTE, this is irresponsible journalism. To say, Chris Hill may
fire Whit is absolute speculation lacking any substance. People who don't
understand football and coaching are the only people sitting and criticizing
Whit's every move. Almost no fans actually understand his decision making
process and the information on which it is based, myself included. Impatient and
whiny fans want everything now, without considering the challenges. To throw
Whit out would be a huge mistake, and the first ones to point it out would be
the same current nay sayers, except they wouldn't admit to it. The author
knows this story is fabricated opinion...but it got a reaction, so who cares if
it is baseless, right?
If Utah gets rid of Whittingham, they run the risk of having their football
program go the way of their basketball program. They are fortunate to have him.
I think it's time we move on. Kyle has had his chance and doesn't
seem to have what it takes
Lotsa Utah "fan" angst in these comments. LOL!
.Let's get into reality right now. Whittingham isn't going to get
fired any time soon. He will tweak his staff as needed. End of story...
Ute fans,Whit says he has pac two top tier qb's. So i'ts either
that Whit does not know how to manage his so-called talent or he does not know
what it really takes to compete in the pac. SO he either lied to the fans or is
clueless.Another question: How did Wilson get a concussion when he
left the game without one? It could have been from smacking himself in the head
for being the worst qb in the league. My opinion; Whit was juts making
excuses to keep his job.
I doubt Rhett would find many others who would support his hyperbole about Matt
Barkley being "one of the greatest" USC quarterbacks "of all
time". Maybe one of the greatest of all time if you consider the last 3
JoCo UteGrants Pass, ORThe fact is that Coach Whit is one of
the best coaches in the country.---------------You have
got to be kidding.Whittingham isn't even close to being among
the best coaches in his DIVISION.Country... what a laugh.
IFIUTEBerryville, VAI realize that the author of this article is
just a kid, but there is no excuse for any decent editor to allow rank insulting
speculation to run as supposed meaningful commentary.---------------Disagree. This article is spot on. And I'm a
Ute fan.About the concussion, Whittingham said after the game that
there's more to the story and he will address it Monday. So it appears
there is plenty of basis for the writer's speculation.
eagleProvo, UT.Let's get into reality right now. Whittingham
isn't going to get fired any time soon. He will tweak his staff as needed.
End of story...------------You mean like he
has(n't) over the last five years?Whittingham doesn't
adjust or tweak jack squat on his staff because he chooses to pretend the
problems don't exist.He's a very good MWC coach, but
he's a terrible Pac 12 coach and he should be fired at season's end.
What is Kyle's next move Bobby Bowden ?
Utah is eventually going to have to be judged on results rather than Pac12 this
and Pac12 that. Right now you don't represent the Pac12 very well so quit
trumpeting....errr.....whining about how great the conference is ..... implying
somehow that is why they can't compete.How many times did Utah
win the conference in the MWC?
I think Whit will get one more year, but a losing season in 2014 will send him
packing.With Stanford's loss, there is no hope that a PAC team
gets in the NC game, meaning even with a 6-6 record, it's unlikely the Utes
go bowling for a 2nd consecutive year.WSU looked good against AZ.
Utes will have their hands full with "the other Cougars".
Wowsers, I have a feeling the writer of this charming little column is going to
look pretty bad after Whitt's press conference on Monday. I thought I was
on Bleacher Report when I started reading.Embarrassing...
I'm in Oregon and was at the game yesterday. I can tell you the Duck fans
absolutely see that Utah is a team that within two years will be competing with
the best of the PAC. The defense is there now and if Dennis Erickson stays and
creates an offensive identity this team will be there year in and year out. The
entry into the PAC 12 coincided with a low point in talent (all things in
college football are cyclical), it was a perfect storm for struggling. It was
apparent to Kyle and those of us that actually understand the sport. This
article is just som much drivel from someone who is envious of where Utah is
headed, promulgate by a new source that is determined to pander to the BYU
@tomahawk redIt has only been a few months since you, and almost
every other utah "fan" on these boards, was proclaiming
whittingham's greatness to all who would listen. Funny how wrong you all
were about that. lol
Even if that is true what makes oregon "fans" any more capable of
knowing anything than any other fanbase? Please spare us the arrogant "those
of us that actually understand the sport" drivel, I doubt you
"understand" anything more than any other "fan" around here.
Please list your qualifications of "understanding" so that the rest of
us can "understand" why you are so much more knowledgeable than we are.
I wouldn't worry too much about Coach Whit. He's building the team the
right way. The wins will come. Welcome to life in the Big Leagues.
Whit has a real problem becuase he is running out of potential OCs. He has
chased them off. Consider this Ludwig, Chow, Erickson, Johnson. I cannot think
of a solid OC willing to come to town and work for Whit.
Tomahawk RedNorth Salt Lake, UT---------------Disagree. This article is spot on. And I'm a Ute fan.About
the concussion, Whittingham said after the game that there's more to the
story and he will address it Monday. So it appears there is plenty of basis for
the writer's speculation.____________________Tomahawk,
please reconsider. The writer's thesis, supported only by his speculative
insinuation, is that Whittingham sat Wilson down even though he's not
injured, to save his own hide. Re-read the first paragraph, then consider the
entirety of the article. What is comng out now is much more ominous; just the
opposite of what the author was saying. In another message which I am waiting to
see Desnews approve, I call for an apology. And it is due.
Nice little hit piece from an Aggie. We even have some pseudo Ute fans trolling
the article. Nothing like bringing out the best in people with some
shoddy "journalism" on the Sabbath huh DNews? Scary that a real print
newspaper would let anybody speculate the way this author has about an injury to
a player. Coach Whit isn't going anywhere nor is this
kid's journalism career.
Spot on IFIUTE, sorry Tomahawk Red but you're off on this one. This is
shoddy journalism and I hope there is an apology issued because this is
disgraceful. Not only is the concussion not faked, it sounds like there may be
something much worse going on with Travis Wilson. Disgraceful journalism
Rhett.Thoughts are with the Wilson family, hopefully everything is
DuckhunterHighland, UTEven if that is true what makes oregon
"fans" any more capable of knowing anything than any other fanbase?
Please spare us the arrogant "those of us that actually understand the
sport" drivel, I doubt you "understand" anything more than any other
"fan" around here. Please list your qualifications of
"understanding" so that the rest of us can "understand" why you
are so much more knowledgeable than we are.------------This coming from a "fan" who thinks that it is "obvious" that
the PAC-12 overrated.LOL!I can't see Kyle being
fired, unless he goes 4-8. If he loses to Colorado then he might as well
resign.Again, who do we hire? I think you'll see position
I see Mr. Wilkinson has changed the headline and his article. I guess
that's easier than apologizing, try to cover it up.
Utahute72"It was apparent to Kyle and those of us that actually
understand the sport. This article is just som much drivel from someone who is
envious of where Utah is headed, promulgate by a new source that is determined
to pander to the BYU fanbase."Nailed it brother. And you can
tell by the extra angst your comment caused with the trolls.
Props to the Desert News for removing the article and apologizing, although
it's a shame it was printed in the first place.Insinuations of
the Ute's faking Wilson's injury are as desperate as they are
pathetic.When word gets out about the true nature of Wilson's
condition, I hope the Ute-obsessed trolls who were salivating over this article
are even more ashamed of themselves.Thoughts and prayers go out to
Travis and his family. Hopefully none of them saw this before it was deleted.
Dear Ute Fans I personally like Kyle and he has done a great job. I would hate
to see him gone. I live and die cougar blue but I watch or listen to as many
Utah games as your best fans do and I probably know more about your teams than
you do. I need to remind you that Your first game in football next year is with
Idaho St. Please get over your eliteness. That was a great win against the
Geoducks. I constantly ask Utah fans about their teams because I want to know
what they think. They wear the garb but they know nothing about the teams, they
just like the shirt or sweater or what ever. I find it very disappointing. The
womens team had a game against #15 Nebraska. That is a good schedule.Jeff
While repeatedly getting beat by Utah stings badly, I don't think that
really does much to help Utah in their current situation. I think that coach
Whit is right, the Utes are a better team. They are getting better each year.
They seem to fizzle as the season goes on but that could be related to their
schedule getting exponentially more difficult game to game this year. Coach Whit
is a great coach and needs to be given time to adapt to the PAC-12 style of
playing as well as to bring a true PAC-12 recruiting class to the field. The
Utes have an exceptional coach and they need to do everything they can do to
keep him. I'm a Ute fan all year except when they play BYU. I want Whit to
stay and be supported. He gives us an excellent chance of success in the PAC-12.
What is wrong with the Deseret News? Kyle Wittingham is faking a player's
injuries to save his job and said player was "mentally ill?" The
paper's CEO honestly thinks that simply removing the story from its online
edition is enough? It should NEVER have been published in the first place.