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Published: Friday, Nov. 15 2013 6:20 a.m. MST

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Herriman, UT

Here's a thought. We have better schools. We have better teachers. Yes, we still have teachers who should be doing a better job (speaking as a teacher). But what we truly need are students who when they come to school are there to learn. They are there to achieve. Right now we have many who are there to hang out, nothing more and nothing less. Until we begin to expect a greater degree of responsibility from all ( students, parents and teachers) nothing will change. This has nothing to do with "rapacious unions", as Senator Lee would have it. This comes from the expectations of a society across the board.

DN Subscriber 2

This is a superb analysis of how Americans have traditionally improved their situation in life, and why it works when done in a free market system, but a government run "poverty program" will always fail.

This should be taught in our schools. And, it should be taught to every member of Congress.

Brave, again, to Senator Mike Lee for seeing problems, analyzing them accurately and proposing workable solutions. Just because all but a handful of his fellow Senators reject Lee's solutions does not make him wrong. History will note that Lee's position is right, and that the one we have been implementing for the last 50 years is a dismal failure.

The Reader
Layton, UT

As a teacher I echo EJM's remarks!!! Well said! I have taught in an area where the Latino population was 40%.

Over and over again I have had Hispanic parents tell me "If my student is nit behaving and working hard, I want to know" I have done just that and the behavior and study habits have improved.

Over and over again I have had a different reaction from the parents of my anglo students parents. When I have said your student is not working hard or is not behaving well. They say "It is because you are not doing a good job as a teacher. You the teacher are at fault, not me, not my student."

Why is that?? You decide!!

The Reader
Layton, UT

To DN - Mike Lee does not see the problems. He is the problem. Let me explain.
If Mike Lee really wanted to solve the problems as he sees them he would also realize not all see the solutions as he sees them and should be willing to 'listen' to the ideas of other and 'compromise' with others, even democrats, to work together to solve problems.

Mike does it differently. I have the correct solution! If you will not do it my way I will vote to de-fund your program, ie Obamaacare. I will even close down the government, even default on the debts of the US to prove my point.

Wrong approach Mike. You may and probably do have some good ideas. So do the democrats! Listen and compromise to solve problems. Your ways are creating problems!

Salt Lake City, Utah

Ladies and Gentlemen meet the new Mike Lee. Walking away from the tea party and championing the cause of the oppressed bravo. Stay tuned for next weeks remake.

The Reader
Layton, UT

If I see him truly trying to compromise with the democrats, I'll believe it. So fat it is the same Mike Lee sugar coated.

Salt Lake City, UT

Once again, Mike Lee fails to address the healthcare needs of the uninsured in America. Our healthcare system is so broken and over priced that it is breaking the back of the economy. When we are sick, we are sort of a captive audience. When are republicans going to speak up about the out of control cost of healthcare? What plan do they offer to help those without insurance? Do we just let the healthcare empire take everything we have, just because we became ill? You can't get yourself out of poverty if you are sick and need some care. In America, the private sector tries to treat healthcare like any other for profit business - well it is NOT the same. Hence there is a need for government to try to bring some balance to the equation lest the uninsured suffer mercilessly at the hands of the healthcare empire builders!

Salt Lake City, UT

Over the last 40 years the number of teachers has remained the same while the administration has doubled in education.......can anyone say MISMANAGEMENT?? Until the Education system does through a major revamp and firing of administrators and enpowering our teachers to teacher the education system will never change.......private schools educate better!

Castle Valley, Utah

Lee, have you forgotten your principles? It's every man for himself, and. If you are poor you just need to work harder. Helping just keeps lazy people lazy.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

This has got to be the ironic speech of the year. Every one of his vague proposals is already espoused by progressives -- improving health, giving a hand up to the poor, feeding the hungry etc. If he truly wants these things, all he has to do is come on over to the progressive side of the aisle. But his party is fighting mightily to de-fund and destroy all that. And so does he! Talk about a whited sepulcher.

Roosevelt, UT

Mr. Lee bring them in and then you can tell them how your party continues to binge on tax breaks for the wealthy, opposes healthcare, opposes care for women or same pay for women. Tell them how your government has indebted the next 11 generations for paying for wars that were and never will be. You are fine paying 40% of every tax dollar to the military and then you stand up and say find and fix the poor.
I say they wouldn't be poor if you were to stop the graf and corruption in the military and medical spending by your government.

Dave D
Spring Creek, NV

A lot to chew on here. I am pleasantly surprised by some of Senator Lee's comments, given his notoriety. The fact that I am surprised that an uber-conservative has these thoughts about poverty shows just how far the right has to go to show citizens that they are serious about poverty. Growing inequality in the nation and world is probably the single biggest issue for me. Whichever party starts taking it seriously will likely get my votes. So far, I am not impressed by either major party.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

Yeah. Mitt will fight poverty by hiring the destitute to mow his lawn...for $3.
I'm sure the GOP is TOTALLY for fighting poverty.

Salt Lake City, UT

Can anyone take this kind of talk seriously after the Senator's recent actions? Don't actions speak louder than words?

I suppose we need to applaud Senator Lee for looking at the Utah polls after his actions of a couple of weeks ago almost sparked another great recession by disrupting international financial markets through causing the United States to, in effect, default on its long-term debt.

But, the new "kinder, gentler conservative" approach will take some getting used to. And, let's see if the Senator is willing to reach across party lines to do what is necessary to make our federal government work. We have to find solutions to our national problems that don't fit perfectly within anyone's ideology but that everyone can live with and that make a difference. We simply have to reduce the debt burden we have created for our grandchildren.

There is so much hard work to do and saying "no, no, no," which is what Senator Lee has done for almost all of his time in office, just won't get it done.

I'll be interested to see if his change in heart is real.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

Who is Mike Lee? He is all over the map, says what he thinks people want to hear.
He is limp, anemic, feeble, and has no direction.
It's ok though...he'll be one term and done.

Springville, UT

This is clearly part of the GOP's effort to try to broaden its base. But actions speak louder than words, and not only is there no action from the GOP, they are actively seeking to harm the interests of the less privileged in our society. They have no concrete ideas or proposals. None. They are as cynical as you can get.

St.George, Utah

Mike Lee is using his etch a sketch just like Mitt Romney!
So easy just to shake the thing and make up a new thought!


Now we're supposed to believe that Mike Lee cares about poor people? Really?

Salt Lake City, UT

Nothing but empty talk, no action.

Bluffdale, UT

the sad thing to save money we need to cut back on all things to pay off war money not in budgets. every dime spent on the wars is in the red. so for republicans to cut back the military must be in on it to. but all they ever pass is tax cuts and cuts in money for poor.

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