oh johnny (triumph in name only), Don't get your tail in a
knot... The game started out on ESPNU and then moved over to ESPN 2... (ESPN and
ESPN 2 are considered national...)Sorry but you lose again...
"Every day, the Big 12 and Pac 12 are essentially telling byu "No
thanks" over and over and over. "That's because they
destroy teams like Stanford on the road and they are too frightened to add such
a powerhouse to their conference. Most conferences like to add weak, punching
bags teams that can't have winning seasons to pad their good teams records
and get more money. This is happening to a team up the road.
Chris,You are getting a little ridiculous with your comments. As one
who cheers for both schools you are starting to embarrass Utah fans. BYU has
much more to offer athletically to a conference than Utah does and also can hold
it's own academically. The question isn't if BCS conferences want BYU
because they do. The reason they haven't offered BYU a spot in their
conference is because they will not play on Sundays. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe
the Pac 12 wanted Utah over BYU because it would allow the other Pac teams to
get an easy win.
Deep Blue,OUCH! The truth does hurt. Thanks for pointing that out for
us. Facts are great.
We will see how much of a power conference the pac is at the end of the season.
Utah will drag the conference SOS down by playing the weakest OOC in the
country. I'm sure the conference really appreciates that. If a WCC team
can come into pac country and destroy a team with 4 returning starters and on
their home court to boot, it does not say much for the pac conference now does
RPIforecast is predicting:- BYU will finish #16 RPI with a #53
SOS- USU will finish #65 RPI with a #88 SOS- WSU will finish #88 RPI
with a #235 SOS- Utah will finish #162 RPI with a #106 SOSConference RPI predictions:1. B1G2. ACC3. Big 124. Big East5. AAC6. Pac 127. SEC8. WCC9. A1010. MWCObviously, not everybody is as impressed with Utah and the
Pac 12 as christy.
Anybody other than me think Crisco B is not Chris B?
Chrissy - one other thing I forgot to ask you:What is your
prediction for tomorrow's contest up in Corvallis?? Hey - we could see the
biggest upset so far this century.Ducks -------- (insert score)utah --------- (insert score)I need something to mark down. Here's my two cents:Oregon 63utah 3
@Chris B - "I'll take playing nobodies in out of conference and a
powerhouse schedule in conference to playing good teams out of conference and
nobodies in conference any day!"Me too! BYU plays a solid
non-conference and conference schedule.PAC12 is 20-5 - 80% win
percentage. WCC is 22-1 - 96% win percentage. I love my WCC membership. We'll see if you're still enjoying being the doormat of your
"powerhouse" conference when you're sitting at home in December for
football and March for basketball.
My little sister is confused.The reasons many "power
conference" teams schedule challenging OOC opponents are to improve their
seeding and better prepare themselves for playing tough teams in the NCAA
tournament - see Kentucky, Michigan State, Duke and Kansas.Of
course, when you have no other aspirations besides finishing with a winning
record and maybe picking up a couple of upset wins in conference, playing a
bunch of high school teams at home during the pre-season makes sense.
To Chris B,You are so wrong. Out of conference schedule is weighted more
than in conference by the selection committee. I am a byu fan, and I would not
trade places with your team for anything. I love where we are and I am so glad
the Pac12 would not accommodate us. Anyone who knows, knows that they wanted
byu first, before Utah, but they would not accommodate our religious beliefs, no
sunday play. You were not their first choice. But I am glad we are where we
are, we are truly better off overall.
No Chris B only you care enough about BYU to keep telling us how you feel. You
love to hate! But if BYU were of no consequence you would just go away. Hmmmm??
christyCongratulations on being selected to be the PAC 12's
doormat.There, do you feel better now?Back to reality -
current record/rankings (Sagarin - similar to other rankings):Football#19 BYU(6-3) SOS #10#29 Utah(4-5) SOS #1Basketball#31 BYU(2-0) SOS #90#120 Utah(1-0) SOS #0 (you
haven't played anybody yet, high school teams don't count)You can have your pre-season nobodies and pretend that the selection committee
will only look at your mediocre conference record if it helps you sleep at
night, but don't be too surprised when the Utes are left on the outside
looking in at another NCAA tournament, as usual.
Oh man Cris, yesterday you gave some positive comments on another article. Now a
step back today. It doesn't matter where the tough teams play, in or out of
conference. It matters that they win. BYU does and has had 25 or more wins each
season for the last what, 5 seasons? There's no other way of saying it.
Rose is fantastic and has developed a fantastic program. As someone astutely
pointed out the WCC is 22-1 so far. Not bad huh Cris?
The PAC 12 is by far the strongest conference in the world (Even more than the
Eastern Conference in the NBA). Even if you go 0-31 on the season, you still can
go dancing. Yes, it is that tough. I have it on good authority (B). They have some of the best fans as well. Did you know that several HUNDRED
fans showed up to see the Utes (A PAC 12 team don't you know!) beat
Evergreen Junior High? That is more people than Evergreen has at their entire
school! Such a great showing!Be prepared for a great season from
every PAC team. They are all going to win out in conference play and will have
12 teams in the tourney. Mark it down with a black marker.
@ Chris B.How are they saying no over and over?Are you in the
meetings with those conferences?Think Sunday play has absolutely no
effect? (are you more in tune than the experts)UVU got an at large invite
to the CIT two years ago from the Great West ConferenceUtah was in the
Pac-12 and got no invite to anything.lol
Haws had a full year to prepare for this season and he is going to be even
better than last year. It looks like Carlino may have improved and Collinsworth
is a great addition to have back. Before the season started I predicted a trip
to the sweet 16. Go Cougs!
Playing good out of conference is looked upon favorably.Similarly,
so is playing in a good conference, as teams play more conference games than
they do out of conference games.I'll take playing nobodies in
out of conference and a powerhouse schedule in conference to playing good teams
out of conference and nobodies in conference any day!And so would
byu fans. But in case you needed a reminder, no real conference wants you!
Every day, the Big 12 and Pac 12 are essentially telling byu "No thanks"
over and over and over. I love it!
I'm getting tired of the National TV term. Cable/Satellite TV is not
@TheSportsAuthority,"Playing quality OOC opponents is looked on
favorably by the NCAA Selection Committee when it comes to at-large bids to the
tournament."I agree 100%, even more importantly if they win and
by how much! I love the way the team is playing now. Sure hope they continue
to improve and play hard every game. I'm a little worried about their
production from the f/t line though. Even Haws has uncharacteristically missed
more than a few ones lately. Other than that, I'm glad to see everyone
seemed to have improved their game from last year though, especially Carlino!Go Cougars!
I'm impressed, for sure.
Dave Rose and his staff have done a phenomenal job of recruiting. What a great
time to be a Cougar basketball fan!
Rose is a great coach.
TrueBlueBYU accepted their invitation to the CBE Hall of Fame
Classic for two reasons:1. Participants in pre-season tournaments
are allowed to play extra games2. BYU knew that they'd get the chance
to play Texas and possibly Wichita State to boost their OOC resume and RPIPlaying quality OOC opponents is looked on favorably by the NCAA
Selection Committee when it comes to at-large bids to the tournament.
The new officiating standards "freedom of movement for offensive
players" should really help our guards. Previously, the only way to stop
Tyler Haws was to mug him! Now Haws will have the advantage and will spend a lot
of time at the free throw line. Swish Cecil!
After last night's games, the WCC is 22-1, best conference record in the
country.After giving up 112 points to BYU, Stanford only allowed 71
points to Northwestern, one point less than the Cardinal surrendered to
Bucknell.Tonight's game versus Mount Saint Mary's and
tomorrow night's game versus Colorado Mesa are part of the CBE Hall of Fame
Classic, which, for BYU, will continue next week against Texas and either DePaul
or Wichita State.
Just don't take your foot off the gas pedal. Such a great time
to be a BYU basketball fan.This team is going to be good for many
years to come!Go Cougars!
Yes. . . it was a great week for Cougar basketball.But BYU has got
to stick to business and play solidly against its non-conference foes over the
next six weeks. BYU should have a target on its back if it is able to make it
to the WCC season with only one or two losses. Any more than that will be a
disappointment after this terrific start.What I liked most about
this article was Tyler Haws' recognition that there are many things far
more important in life than basketball. I admire him as a person. He and his
brother come from "good stock."Looking forward to tracking
BYU basketball's progress over the next few years!
We are fortunate to have coach Rose. What a great example for a BYU coach.
Both our basketball coaches (men & women) are really professional and real
gentlemen. I cannot understand how any player could decline a scholarship offer
from either one.
Should be 4-0 after this weekend!