I like the Tea Party. I think we should work on growing it larger. This country
needs lower taxes, fewer government programs and control of the money closer to
As a conservative from Alabama I will be sending a donation to Mia Love's
campaign. Her victory will send a unique message to the people of Alabama.
First: It will put a crack in the "white male Mormon Utah" stereotype
that Utah is known for out here. Second: Make History-- The first black female
Republican in the House of Representatives. Lastly: Black, Female, Mormon,
She doesn't believe in labels (such as tea party)? When she was running
last time she didn't seem to mind such labels. What has changed?
So for everyone who is purposely misunderstanding, she is fighting the tactic of
labeling her a tea partier to the exclusion of everything else she stands for
and believes. What Matheson is trying to do is call her a Tea Partier as a way
to dismiss her. Actually, a lot of people here appear to be doing that. It
isn't fair and it is exactly what everyone is accusing the tea party of
doing when they dismiss out of hand anything the democrats say and do. It is
the empty headed method that has become modern politics. It gives the debate
more of a middle school timbre and stymies real discussion.
"So, claim obama doubled the debt. I dare you. Because, it is a lie."Pagan--not sure where you come up with this kind of talk, but here are
the facts:By the Obama administration's own projections, the
debt will reach a predicted $20.3 trillion by the end of Obama's last full
year in office. Approximately $9.7 trillion of that total will have been racked
up during the Obama years, meaning that Obama's debt, by itself, will be
nearly equivalent to the combined debt of every previous president in American
history.I hope you are not saying Obama's claims are a lie.Furthermore, according to FactCheck.org, the amount that the federal
government owes the public is set to double as well:"The Obama
administration has projected an annual deficit of $750 billion in the fiscal
year that began Oct. 1, and $626 billion the year after." FactCheck wrote in
its third quarter update. "At that rate, the debt owed to the public will
more than double during the Obama presidency."
Here is one label from which she can never run: Politician.
To "NeilT" I have, and it isn't that hard. I just tell them that I
will be paying cash (in this case credit card) then I pay for it. I used to
have a dentist that gave a 10% discount if you paid with cash. I have heard of
other Doctors and clinics doing the same because it saves them that much when
they don't have to deal with insurance companies.
HER label is "can't think for myself, lock-step marching tea party
We have the remake of Mike Lee and the remake of Mia Love, can the remake of
Jason Chaffetz be far behind? Funny how Utah Congress persons and want to be
congress persons are running from the tea party.
Red Shirt MIT. Try getting healthcare without health insurance. Enough said
@Bruce in San Jose - you claim "You misrepresent the FACTS.
Obamacare, fraudulently named the Affordable Care Act, specifically voids ALL
preexisting health insurance policies by requiring all policies to now contain
"features and benefits" for which the majority of policy holders do not
want or need. "This is completely false statement. I just
renewed my insurance policy..... and had to make no changes because it already
covered everything mandated. The vast majority of plans out there already
cover the minimums. i can point to at least 13,000 plans in my own company that
required no adjustments... so your statement is false.As to your
statement "eatures and benefits for which the majority of policy holders do
not want or need."... well duh... most plans do. I don't need any
female issues coverage - but I have it. Every policy is that way, before ACA,
and after ACA. The insurance system would not work if it only covered issues
that you have... you wouldn't be able to afford the insurance if that is
how it was written.
I love Truth's version of the world. When Republicans control congress -
they are RINOs. They are only conservatives when they aren't in control.
Perhaps the solution to keep conservatives from morphing into RINOs is to keep
them from having control.Then we have..."Our
Government it too big. Our Government is too controlling.Our
Government spends more money than it takes in.Our Government has chosen to
do things that are not constitutionally mandated. These are facts
and we need to either change it or dump the tea in the harbor."No... these are opinions.... except for the government spending more than it
takes in. But the rest are opinions, and only opinions. Some I share, some I
don't. Some are necessary evils because people left to their own devices
are selfish and would hurt others to enrich themselves. "Too
much control".... how? How did the government prevent you from doing what
you wanted or needed to do. In most cases, you will find it is state laws
impact your daily lives far more then any federal laws.
Reagan tripled the debt. W. Bush doubled the debt. If
Obama added ONE DOLLAR to the debt it would technically be 'more' debt
than 'any other' President. Who is cherry picking now? So, claim obama doubled the debt. I dare you.
Because, it is a lie.
The onus is on too much government control. Period!
@PaganYour cherry picked stats are meaningless.Debt
added by President, with who controlled the purse strings and raised the
debt:Reagan, 8 years, democrat controlled congress$1.86
trillionBush, 4 years, democrat controlled congress$1.554
trillionClinton, 8 years, Progressive republican (RINO) controlled
congress 6 years, democrat controlled congress 2 years $1.396 trillionBush, 8 years, terrorist attack, Progressive republican (RINO)
controlled congress 6 years, Progressive Democrat controlled congress 2 years
$5.849 trillionObama, 5 years still 3 more to go. 2 years
Progressive Democrat controlled, 3 years split Progressive Republican (RINO) and
Progressive Democrat control of congress,(with obamacare and other
legislative policy yet to be added, which will add $5.081 trillion
trillions more)NO conservative control ever.Obama will
far surpass any president ever when he is done, probably equaling all past
president combined.Certainly more than Bush when he is done,and many rimes more than Reagan.That is the real truth about
Mia Love has repudiated the summary of this story - the theme of which is that
she is not someone who agrees with the TEA party. She posted the repudiation on
Facebook.Isn't this evidence of the media's agenda to
defame the TEA party? The bias of this newspaper is becoming more and more
obvious. Even a paper that holds itself out as being "conservative" is
attempting to defame and misrepresent people who have a conservative agenda as
"extreme" and "out of touch."This article smells.
The headline is, at best, dishonest. It just shows you that D News is
mainstream media. Question what you read here. Not all things are as they once
I hope more politicians will stand up to big government. It sounds like Mia may
be willing to compromise her principles in order to win elections.
To biilYou misrepresent the FACTS. Obamacare, fraudulently named the
Affordable Care Act, specifically voids ALL preexisting health insurance
policies by requiring all policies to now contain "features and
benefits" for which the majority of policy holders do not want or need. They were not "inferior" policies. They weree men's polices
that do not contain prenatal care or periodic mammograms. They were women's
policies that do not contain prostate cancer screenings. By requiring all
policies to contain such coverage the cost is pushed through the roof. The ACA
outlawed the "policy you like." The un-denied intent of Obamacare is to
destroy the health insurance industry so there is no choice but the government
single payer plan.The point, all of the "problems to be
fixed," prices and lack of coverage, are being exacerbated by the ACA. There
were EASY free market fixes for the high policy rates in some states; allow
policy sales across state lines. Pre-existing conditions could have been covered
by a pool funded by insurance companies OR by a federal fund costing pocket
change (the number unable to get pre-existing condition insurance is a very
small part of of the population)
To "biil" give us a news article or something that proves that people
are or have ever been "denied full access to our health care system." I
have never heard of a person who has been denied access to our health care
system.That is a complete and unsubstantiated lie.It is
good to see that you agree that the ACA in its poor implementation has caused
many insurers to change their plans and drop customers. The question is why the
onus is on the insurance companies, when the problem lies in the fact that the
insurance companies could not meet the requirements of the ACA without dropping
Mia may want to reconsider her untimely withdrawal from any association with the
tea party movement. With Imam Hussein Obama's action this very day, it is
abundantly clear the shut down of the government was not caused by Republicans.
Imam Hussein Obama was the cause! If Obama had conceded just what he has today,
there would have been no shut down. Please Mia, you have been mislead and have
swallowed the media bias. That is not what I expected of you. I contributed to
your campaign two years ago, but I will not this time. That might change if you
retract your mislead opinion and point out that Imam Hussein Obama really shut
this government down by his obstinate, bull-headed refusal then to do just
exactly what he proposes doing now. The government was not shut down by the tea
party, but instead by Imam Hussein Obama.
TO SURFER LOU:Number of people who would continue to be denied full
access to our health care system had tea party lawmaker succeeded in repealing
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA): tens of millions.ACA grand-fathered all the individual policies that were in place at the time
the law was enacted in 2010. This means that the plans in effect at the time
that President Obama was pushing the bill could still be offered even if they
did not meet all the standards laid out in the ACA.The plans being
canceled because they don't meet the minimal standards were all plans that
insurers introduced AFTER the passage of the ACA. Insurers introduced these
plans knowing that they would not meet the standards that would come into effect
in 2014. Insurers may not have informed their clients at the time they sold
these plans that they would not be available after 2014 because they had
designed a plan that did not comply with the ACA.The onus is on
"Love joins a growing list of Republicans critical of the TEA party's
tactics, including former GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney."So, the shining hope of electing a conservative women in Utah, to join the
leadership to reestablish the government under the law of the Constitution, is
dashed. Love has just firmly established herself in the middle of the RINO camp.
People, Romney lost on a national stage BECAUSE he decided to lean over the line
to mistakenly embrace the left. That gained him NO votes from the Left. But, it
lost him the core conservative constituency on the right...the deciding
factor.By revealing a misunderstanding of, and accepting the
misrepresentation of the TEA party, as defined by the Left, she has rejected the
only movement for reigning-in an out of control totalitarian Federal government
leviathan. She has just played to the Left, with an attempt to tiptoe down the
centerline, thus losing my support; the support of the conservative core and,
from historical records, a large chunk of the undecided. We don't need
another John McCain-ish government official.
Don't tell me, let me guess...Mia Love was FOR the Tea-Party,
before she was AGAINST the Tea-Party.Honing and Practicing
those spineless Politicians skills...
Since when was being associated with the Tea Party a bad thing? Give it a rest,
DesNews. If anyone is involved in an organization that's a bad thing,
it's you. Why not take a look at the poll numbers regarding your industry.
They're in the toilet.This is an effort by the media to shape
public opinion. And the Deseret News and KSL are amazingly obsessed about the
Tea Party.Let me remind the reader that the Tea Party stands for
freedom and liberty derived by a smaller and less intrusive government. That
isn't radical. It's America's history. And it's a very good
Number of viable alternative solutions to improve the healthcare system in this
country put forward by the Tea Party = Zero
"Reagan tripled the national debt.""W. Bush doubled the
debt."Pagan--you left out Clinton and Obama.Obama,
has racked-up two times more total debt than all US Presidents combined. By the end of Obama's term, he will have increased the debt by 57
percent. Under Bush, total federal debt rose 38 percent. Under
Clinton, total federal debt rose 32 percent.Many economists believe
we have now passed a threshold of no return and that the debt can never be
repaid. And don't forget that Obamacare is projected to add another $2.3
TRILLION onto the nation's obligations.
here is a truth tea party does not stand for the constitution. american health
act was passed and all 3 branchs of government made it leagal. the tea party
would not fund the goverment to get rid of a leagal act. they went aganist the
constitution instead of getting it repeeled, by vote and election. they have
gone aganist the oath they took.
Number of people who have had their health insurance policies canceled because
of the TEA party = Zero.
"Slavery was the law of the land, too, wasn't it?" Excuse me? Was
Ms. Love suggesting that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act —
which, in fact, is the law of the land and will enable millions to access our
health care system, save lives, and rein in insurance company abuses — is
as morally abhorrent as slavery? Was she implying that it is such an abomination
that she'd advocate even a bloody civil war and a constitutional amendment
to get rid of it? Or was this just an example of "dog whistle" rhetoric,
a signal to her radical supporters that she hasn't lost her taste for the
Mia is wishy washy..it depends on what looks good to her. I don't feel any
trust in her judgement. Now when it comes to Allen West - he is solid in what he
believes and he would get my vote with question.
The real problem with Obamacare is not the health care issues, it is the strings
attached that remove our freedoms. Anyone who compromises with evil
becomes evil to the extent they cross the line of compromise. That is the
problem with all of our current politics. Evil has been slowly and steadily
encroaching because of the compromises made by good people who want to help our
country. Evil takes advantage of the naivety of those who try to compromise.
Love the tea party. I wish Mike has been more successful. Our
Government it too big. Our Government is too controlling.Our
Government spends more money than it takes in.Our Government has chosen to
do things that are not constitutionally mandated. These are facts
and we need to either change it or dump the tea in the harbor.
Sorry, Mia, but YOU labeled yourself ... and you did it, without educating
yourself as to our political system.March 2012, as quoted in the
right-wing Daily caller:“I hope I’m a tea party candidate. I
hope I’m everybody’s candidate. The tea party has done a lot of good
for the country. And so I consider myself everyone’s candidate — my
methods of fiscal discipline and limited government, I hope fits
everybody,” she said.You, a candidate so uninformed that you
didn't even know what "insider trading" was? Things like
"insider trading" are not what you learn from your heroes (Glenn Beck,
Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity) who denigrate true journalism as the "mainstream
media". You want to abolish the student loan system, yet you
had unpaid student loans between $15K-$50K for a degree in "singing and
dancing"? Really? Have you paid them off yet?I think Mia is
qualified to sing the National Anthem at the next Republican convention. Maybe
she can go on tour?
I agree with her desire to not be "labelled". She already starts off as
person with 2 labels..."black" AND "conservative". And as long
as she upholds the Constitution, is for government that lives within it's
means, as well as within the divinely inspired Constitutional limits, then she
will continue to have my support. But if she starts paling around with the likes
of Orrin Hatch or John McCain, then all bets are off.
Matheson voted to fund Obamacare. We will see how you guys feel when that goes
straight to heck, lol.
There isn't balance between Liberal and Conservative. Moderates can't
define themselves and don't know what they stand for. Liberals are Pro
choice ONLY when it comes to murdering babies. When it comes to choice with
anything else they are against it if you don't agree with them.
T-Party candidates are the reason the Republicans won the House in '10 and
'12 in the first place. If Mia Love can't beat Matheson this time we
need a new candidate.
I think if you really want to understand the Tea Party efforts, you have to stop
listening to the "Parrots" and search it out for yourself. At least you
know what Mike Lee and Ted Cruz stand for and will do to try to protect our
nation from those who seek to destroy it with their double-talk and
Wow, Why did you show up at the rally for Mike Lee? That was a thank you to Mike
Lee for standing up against Obama care. Now you say you didn't agree with
that? I wanted you to win against Matheson and thought you would be another Mike
Lee. Now I guess you are just another politician. Because the media has
portrayed the tea party as extreme and weird you want to run away from it. The
tea party is just the average American that doesn't want our country piled
in debt. That is how it started by telling Republicans and Democrats to get the
spending under control. Why is that bad? You are no different from Matheson.
I'm so disappointed.
What a waste of money this campaign will be for her.Matheson, on his WORST
day, is better qualified, more in tune with reality, and overall a much better
candidate.But she has to learn for herself.And comparing Obamacare
to slavery was really a teaparty-esque move.See ya, Mia!
Wonder why the article left out that she has hired Hatch's campaign guy?
By trying to play both ends against the middle, Mia Love just insured
She is moving away from the Tea Party label because she wants to fully embrace
her Anchor Baby label.
So would she have had Lee roll over and play dead when he could clearly see what
a "train wreck" was coming down the track. Thank goodness for Lee and
Cruz who sounded the warning cry. When one sees a catastrophe, it is incumbent
on him to sound the alarm. The Tea Party has been sounding the alarm for years
and the media has cast them in the light of "extremist" We need these
kind of leaders to get us out of the mess we are in.
You know the whole problem has been attacking the Affordable Care Act....not
focusing on how can we deliver medical services to our citizens in a more cost
effective manner. Had the attention been on the latter, the ACA probably would
have been a footnote in the history books already.But this
hasn't been about fixing issues. This has been all about scoring political
points. If republicans can actually improve the system by replacing parts or
all of the ACA, they have my full and total support. But so long as this is
about scoring "political" points, the strategy will continue to fail
because it is grounded on a false narrative.If Mia is truly about
being about doing something positive.... it is worth listening to the ideas she
has. If she is more about sound bites and being on FoxNews...she deserves a
Isn't Mia Love denying the Tea Party like Thomas Monson denying he is a
Mormon???You can't have it both ways Mia.Man up
Mia. Carry that rattlesnake banner with pride.
Senator Lee ruined tea party. Did he do it intentionally?
Quit drinking the Koolaid, and believing what the Left Leaning Media Folks
write, or say in their broadcasts. If you think the Tea Party are extremists,
what are the Occupy Wallstreet folks? Mainstream? All Tea Party Members want
is to follow, honor, and sustain the Constitution. This Govt Shutdown was done
by Obama and Reid. The house passed several budgets. It was Reid and veto
threats by Obama that failed to do anything. It has been 5 years since a budget
was done. That isn't Tea Party fault. What was asked for, is being asked
now by even fellow Democrats. Postpone it till next year, that everyone should
have to live by it, or defund it. And the majority of Americans support
ntohaving to use it. You also need to quit asking Orin Hatch Plants about their
feelings. He is a RINO to, who has been in office too long to see the
difference. Remember when he ran for the first time, how he campaigned against
an incumbant who had been in too long? He has to.
Talk about distancing themselves, check out the Dems running away from The Big
Lie. Sen. Cruz and Sen Lee nailed it by calling for repeal, defund, delay now it
is the top of the list of all their critics. I say impeach the liar and repeal
First of all Mia, you owe Lee Benson and apology and the rest of us an
explanation about your backstory.If a candidate can't get that right
I am unwilling to listen to anything else he/she has to say.Political
shape-shifting is the easiest way to run, but the Internet has a looooong
memory.But as we've learned from the Obama experience, identity
politics covers a multitude of sins.
I find the media to be pretty balanced on the "liberal" and
"conservative" slant. The problem with a lot of us, however, is that we
only see what we want to see. We believe our media spokespeople, however, when
they complain about the opposing viewpoint. Let's get some balance in our
lives, people. It's time we see the extremes on both sides for what they
are, leave them behind, and come to the middle to solve our problems.
I have no idea what the "tea party" stands for, but if the democrats and
the republicans are proud of where they have brought this country, then those
who support them must be the most extreme of all.
I don't believe her. She is a tea partier and will always be one. By
definition she will and always has advocated for dangerous government policies.
So many people blindly trust what the lying liberal media has said about the Tea
Party. Why is it so hard for so many people to understand that all the Tea Party
is, is a group of people that believe in the Constitution, the founding of this
country and believe in freedom? TEA=Taxed Enough Already. So REPUBLICANS
supported by the Tea Party movement used their constitutional power of the
budget to try and stop one of the must destructive laws of modern history. I
really don't see a problem with that and now I start to wonder if the 5
million people losing their health insurance are starting to wish they
Mia, you don't like the Tea Party because they are a party of "No?"
We need more parties of "No!" We need more representatives with the guts
to say "NO!" Like NO to Obamacare. (Would've been good if they said
that years ago before it was passed.) NO to amnesty. NO to illegal immigration.
NO to higher taxes. NO to funding failing "alternative" and
"renewable" energy frauds. NO to unconstitutional appointees. NO to IRS
illegal harassment of conservative groups. NO to Benghazi cover ups. NO to a lot
more things.And more in particular, NO to politicians who waffle,
change their affiliation, and become ashamed of who they are and trying to
become in vogue with what the "popular" view seems to be. Those kind of
politicians show no integrity. Which is what you did, Ms. Love. So NO to you.Cruz and Lee campaigned specifically on stopping Obamacare and were
elected because of it. They never backed down. And in spite of despicable people
of both parties, politicians and the populace being childish and calling them
names, they stuck with it. That is integrity.
How does it feel to be a Token? After the Republican party has
$4 trillion spent on Iraq. $24 billion dollar government
shutdown. Reagan tripled the national debt. W. Bush
doubled the debt. You are against big spending? Vote
Government shutdown cost the US Taxpayer $24 billion dollars. Now
that conservatives are feeling the backlash of wasting more of American tax
payer money… they suddenly don't want to take
responsibility for their actions.
And just what does Jim Matheson bring to utah? Not much I'm afraid. While
I am not a tea party person, please explain what is wrong to saying no to more
taxes, more spending and more government? Less would be better.
When the mainstream media decides to launch and orchestrated and full scale
attack on a group, most low-information voters follow along like sheep.
Information is carefully selected and presented to the public in a slanted and
highly prejudiced way. Even a slew of major scandals are minimized and certainly
not given the same media coverage as a "republican scandal" be Pretty
tough for any conservative to withstand these often highly personal attacks. Its
called "demonizing dissent". The many forms of socialism have failed
pathetically time and time again all over the world. We are still hearing the
same tired and empty rhetoric and empty promises. Poor people are suffering much
more under Pres. Obama. GWB at least gave seniors RX coverage reform that
worked, though also very expensive. Even liberals like Jon Stewart are catching
on to the absurdities and incompetence of Obamacare. Republican ideas on HC were
not given a place at the table. This is the democrat parties train wreck.
Mia Love is just another politician who sees a route to stuff the family larder.
So Mia is distancing herself from the Tea Party. Well she's young and
inexperienced in politics. She's trying to fit in and doesn't quite
know what to believe.It's happening on the other side of the
aisle as well.I guess Bill Clinton and Diane Feinstein are not true
liberals anymore either now that they are distancing themselves from Obama and
his lies about keeping your health care plan.So it's looking
like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz were right all along, this healthcare plan is really
so bad that Dems are now bailing out of it too and Dems have given
'fearless leader' an ultimatum to fix it.It appears that
the chickens are coming home to roost. Every Dem needs to be roasted slowly over
hot coals for supporting this mess.And today's news... 1
million Californians with healthcare pink slips?Get your surfboard
Mia, this is going to be a wave you will not want to miss! Surf's up!
Maybe after Mia loses to Matheson for a second time, she and Sarah Palin can
hook up and become Tea Party running mates somewhere. Two peas in a pod.
Mia says she is not "Tea Party", but she shows up on stage with Allen
West? Who is she kidding?
Some people run because they want to make a difference. Other people run
because they want to sail the current political winds to victory, whatever those
winds may be.Mia tried riding the hard-core tea party wave last time
and lost.Now she is simultaneously trying to copy Matheson's
long-time message of ("I don't believe in labels") while bringing
in Allen West--one of the most uncivil tea party politicians in America. Since I'm a pretty moderate, Jello-O eating, Utahn, I think
I'll stick with Matheson. Now, if the GOP nominated a mainstream, Reagan
Republican they might make it exciting but in this non-Presidential year I think
a candidate like Mia Love is toast.
"Mia Love rejects tea party label".Apparently she's
going with the "start your campaign with a massive lie" strategy.
Tea Party types were instrumental in Mia Love making it past the primaries in
the last elections. It would be very unfortunate if she cast away their support
and distanced herself from them now.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
If you take money from Freedom Works or any other financial backer of the Tea
Party faction, then you are justly labeled as a Tea Party politician. If Mia
wants to truly distance herself from the Tea Party, then she needs to distance
herself from their money and the controlling influence it brings with it.
You can tell Love is still a tea partier - she's so far right she
doesn't know what she stands for.
it is amusing to watch people not just walk but run away from the tea party.