Comments about ‘Tribal leaders, University of Utah officials set to negotiate future use of Ute name’

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Published: Monday, Nov. 11 2013 9:05 p.m. MST

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UteExpat
New York, NY

I'm a bit wary of this meeting request, but agree that my alma mater should provide tuition waivers to all bona fide members of the Ute Tribe who wish to attend and otherwise meet the qualifications to do so. We're fortunate to have the Ute affiliation and we should do all we can to honor and respect the Ute Tribe and its members.

Go Utes!

ute alumni
paradise, UT

change it to the movin' mormons or pioneers. i will now be changing my moniker so as not to offend

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

Crooked deal for the Ute's no matter how you slice it or dice it and free tuition is not enough, and should have been done 100 years ago.

In this day and age when hand shake contracts and deals are not recognized any more I think the tribe has a valid case and that U of U owes them some back money for the years the school was using their tribal name without consent or contracts. I think a billion dollars or two in back payments to the tribe and state paid tuition's to any school in the country for the tribes children and parents, is their payment.

The state should make reparations for the arrears and the board of education fund the rest of the deal. The days of being nice neighbors is a dead deal, time to repatriate the tribe with some respect and long overdue compensation for their intellectual property.

The tribe has not been dishonored but cheated from their property rights. Either way of name change or contract to rent their name, the Utes, reparations is still due for years of theft of intellectual property and rights of the tribe.

milner
Centerfield Sanpete, UT

One of best friends in high school was a member of the Ute tribe!

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

Playing the politically correctness game doesn't appeal to me. The Ute name and logo have no connection to the founding of the school or its achievements. It is a tradition that has outlived its usefulness and only bodes as a PC trap for the future.
Now is the time to find another mascot; one that is not a protected class.

BJR
Duchesne, UT

On the University of Utah site they list their mascot as the Swoops. They use a bird on the sidelines, some kind of a Hawk.
I am confused are they the Utes or the Swoops?

cterry
Kaysville, UT

How stupid is the U for not having permanent rights to its name and logo. They will pay for that mistake forever.

bribri86
Phoenix, AZ

Check it out, someone else with their hand out. I think, because I'm (fill in the blank here) I should get free housing, free tuition, free food, free books, free transportation, free free free. Someone's paying for it. And it's going to be those students who are paying for their education or the people who live in the state of Utah. Good luck with this one. I know what I'd do if I were the president of the university. Hold a contest to come up with the best name, logo, and mascot. Free tuition for the winner...

WhyAmIhere?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The University has no real connection to the Ute tribe other than the use of the Ute name as a mascot.. I fail to see how using the drum and feather is a connection to a specific tribe. In any case, this looks like a money grab by the tribe. Give us money or concessions or be will cause trouble.

I say it's time to cut the relationship with the Ute tribe. Maybe the Paiute tribe would be willing to let us use their name as a mascot.. or the Goshutes or the Navajo's. The Shoshoni also had a band that resided in Northern Utah. We really have lots of choices.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

The American Indians can apply for admission and scholarships like everyone else. No reason to give them handouts that aren't earned. They are perfectly capable of achieving academic success without relying on the taxpayer.

Besides, the use of the Ute name is in no way an attempt to financially benefit from the work of others, which is the case in intellectual property cases. It is simply a nod to the past in our state.

We shouldn't be so tied to the name that we're willing to cave to every demand the ute tribe makes. We don't owe them anything. The federal government has more than compensated American Indian tribes the past hundred years. Sooner or later its time for every group to be responsible for themselves and not look to taxpayers for funding.

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

Time for the university of Utah to pay up. If a local business tries to sell 'U' t-shirts, you can rest assured that the University of Utah will be on the doorstep demanding royalty money.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

bribri86
Phoenix, AZ

Check it out, someone else with their hand out.
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It's a crime how we have treated Native Americans in this country. I am behind free tuition, books and housing. The tribe should also get a percent of apparrel sales and that fat TV contract to support education that supports Native American K-12 to prepare them for higher education. Come on Utah, step up and make it right!

They deserve a share of the pie.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Veritas,

Native Americans already receive the same share of the pie that the rest of Utahns receive. Whatever share of the pie I get as a taxpaying Utahn, any Native American can get as well.

Let's not put down the Ameican Indians by suggesting they need special treatment in order to find success. The US Government is already too much of a safety net for too many groups. It's time the American Indians take responsibility for their own education, just like the rest of us are expected to do.

dbrbmw
Orem, UT

I feel bad for how the native American indians were treated. But I also feel bad for all other peoples treated poorly in our country's history. This opens up a huge can of worms if there are tuition waivers. Does this mean since my family was persecuted and killed I ought to get free schooling? And no way the Ute name should be allowed to be used any longer. What a load of manipulative garbage the U is pushing. Their mascot is a bird. They call themselves Utes. I'm confused.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Veritas,

"Native Americans already receive the same share of the pie that the rest of Utahns receive. Whatever share of the pie I get as a taxpaying Utahn, any Native American can get as well."

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I have no response for ignorance when it comes to the history of US / Native American relations.

bribri86
Phoenix, AZ

Veritas Aequitas

You know something...You're right. I agree. Native American's were treated poorly. There's the trail of tears, there's so many other atrocities. I think Native American's should be given free everything. But let's not be hypocritical. My ancestors were Mormon Pioneers and lived through the atrocities of Hauns Mill, kicked out of Nauvoo, and suffered by the hands of several mobs. So...I think, because of something COMPLETELY unrelated to me, I should get a free education all the way up to a doctorate. I think I should have someone else pay for me to get a house...for free of course. I think the federal government should send me a monthly check to compensate me for the houses, lands, cattle, and other property that was illegally taken from my ancestors.

Now, do you think that would be fair? And if so, who's going to pay for it? OR, I can stand up on my own feet and use my inalienable rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and have the right to fail and succeed according to what I (and God) am able to do.

JLFuller
Boise, ID

We should remember that Indians were a warring people long before the Europeans arrived. They had been committing atrocities upon each other since they arrived here 12,000 years ago. So to point to Europeans as being extraordinarily war like and that Indians were peaceful victims ignores reality. The First Nations people are a conquered people to be sure but they died as a result of disease more than by military action. That does not mean we should not compensate them where we can as we did with Germany, Italy and Japan in the post WWII era. Maybe paying the Utes to use their name is one way to do that.

CougMan
San Diego, CA

I'm a cougar fan and find it amazing that I'm actually agreeing with Chris B on something. Amazing!

Rather than be held hostage on the name and always be fighting the politically correct game, they should just rip the bandaid off and change it now. If they want to stay with indian heritage, change it to "Anasazis". There aren't any of them left to complain and try and extort money and concessions out of the U.

MAYHEM MIKE
Salt Lake City, UT

Once again, some poor, downtrodden, "feel sorry for me" group sucking tax dollars from the rest of us. Some Black Americans want reparation for slavery; American Indians continue to get various subsidies for the depredations committed 150 years ago. Hey, I'm a Mormon. . . 150 years ago my people also were killed, raped, had their possessions stolen and were driven from their lands. How about changing the name of the U of U teams to "The Mormons," or the "Elders," so we, too, can charge a "use" fee and get free tuition for our members? What about a free car for my kids when they turn 18? Oh, and let's throw in the right to run a casino or two to bolster the tithing fund. My pride wouldn't allow me to con others in that manner.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

How about something like the Nuskins or the Vivints? Then they'd pay US to use the logo.

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