Published: Tuesday, Nov. 12 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
It seems that our government has and is continuing to build up the Berlin Wall
here in the U.S. It is not a physical wall... ===========Umm, yes it is...The letter writer easily forgets (or is ignorant
of the fact), that "The Wall" was built, and the citizens were
told, that it was to protect them from illegal immigrants.Republicans and Tea-Partiers are doing the same thing to us.And yes, it
is a physical wall.BTW -- Before GW Bush, My family and I
would visit Canada regularly, Now, you must have your papers, please -
comrade.Same thing with Mexico.And the irony is you are
searched LEAVING the United States, not when you are re-entering.
It's absurd hyperbole to compare an oppressive regime like East Germany to
regulations of insurance, food content, and school lunches in this country.
Here if you don't like something you have the right to organize in
opposition to it, petition government leaders, and make your argument at the
ballot box (and accept the possibility that you'll lose, which is something
that certain folks are still working on). East Germans faced the possibility of
blacklisting, imprisonment, exile, or death for their opposition.To
compare the two demonstrates a lack of understanding of what true state tyranny
and repression look like and causes one to lose all credibility.
Ok, Mr. West, I choose to have NASCAR races in front of your kids' school,
open a battery recycling business upstream from your water supply, operate a
medical waste incinerator upwind of you, sell botulism-saturated vegetables to
your local grocery store and open an outdoor shooting range next door to you.Thank you for supporting all of my freedoms.
Picking an choosing Mr West?Isn't any law equal to some level
of government telling you what you can do?Don't speed limits make us
safer? Doesn't food labeling help you make smarter decisions?Govt forces you and your children to be vaccinated. Do you not see the social
benefit to that?We can all find laws and regulations that we
disagree with. Some are outright idiotic.But as a whole, they
David West, please enlighten us to what rules and regulations you are being
burdened by. Be specific and give us the origins to the said restrictions. I
dare say that if you had an ounce of objectivity you would discover your
perceptions have more to do with who is administrating our laws rather than what
the law is. Besides, since the current crop of Representatives (2011) received
their oath, they have not passed a single piece of legislation that has been
implemented into law. They have, mind you, cost us 24+ billion $ to shutdown the
I'm confused.The letter writer sounds like a Liberal wanting
freedom to choose and less Government control, but then whines and
complains about Obamacare as being the loss of freedom and more Government
control. Somehow (and I'm just guessing here) I'd
bet this letter writer does not support; Muslims building an Islamic
Cultural Center in New York, medical marijuana, a woman's right
to choose, or gay marriage.Thererfore, all this rhetoric
is more about his wallet, than it is about Freedom of Choice.
David, Prior to Obamacare, how "free" was a person with a
pre-existing condition to obtain health insurance?If you really are
concerned about government restrictions, you'd do well to follow Open
Minded Mormon's advice: Lend your support to women's right to choose
and the legalization of same-sex marriage and medical marijuana.
Res Novae,I could not agree more. I am not an Obama supporter, but
the incredible hyperbole surrounding any and every action by the current
administration is simply astounding.Some folks purport to believe
that they are living in a dictatorship. During my mission I lived in a
dictatorship (and by far not the worst example of one). They clearly have NO
idea what they are talking about.
"I would like to think that I can choose what is best for me and my family
and not be told by the government what is best for us."========
I'm sure LGBT families could not agree with you more!
Open Minded,The irony is... your post was based on a false assumption.I can assure you that people entering the United States ARE searched.Watch the program "Border Wars" on History Channel if you don't
think people ENTERING the United States are searched.When you leave
all they ask is... who you are, reason for your travel, when you plan to return,
are you carrying prohibited items, etc. But I can assure you that people
crossing the border INTO the United States are checked too. ----As for government restricting freedom... that's kinda what
government means, isn't it? The "Governor" on an engine prevents
it from operating outside prescribed limits. A "Governor" or
"Government" over the people... serves the same purpose. It restricts
the people's behavior to prescribed limits (most of the time for your own
good).But obviously the bigger government gets.. the more
restriction. The more restrictions... the less freedom. I have
no problem with most regulations, but there are others that I have serious
problems with. To resist these restrictions... We must keep the government to
a size the people can control.
Yes, allow stores to sell alcohol, legalize marijuana, get rid of speed limits
and all other similar restrictions on freedom.
Just for the record, it was citizens of East Germany, not the Soviet Union, who
were leaving the country in big enough numbers to justify the building of the
Let us not forget -- The North Koreans [like the East Berliners] are being told those Walls are there to protect them and to keep out
illegal immigrants, and drugs, and terrorists.Just like Republicans
wanting one here...But, it really shouldn't come as any sort of
surprise -- The rich always feel a need of fenced communities to feel safe
and secure.They don't like open societies.
"It is not a physical wall but a wall of rules and regulations that will
control how we act and think."Obviously, Mr. West, this
imaginary wall you mention is not very effective. It certainly does not control
how you think. Now, right-wing talk radio, that's another matter
altogether. It seems to be exerting great control over your thought processes.
Why are you not lashing out against it?
From my perspective, which includes four months of close encounters with the
Berlin Wall and a visit to East Berlin while the Wall of Shame was in place,
could I suggest that this letter is as full of asbestos as the Berlin Wall was?
What freedom have you lost... I missed it evidently.I think that
this is the most ironic and confusing part of the conservative movement. They
want to legislate how much you can drink, who you marry, ban you from buying
legal medication from far flung dangerous nations like Canada, forbid us from
travel to countries like Cuba.... all the while place China on a most favored
trading partner list, insist on "christian" values and prayer be taught
in schools, consider dollars supporting the poor as "stealing", while
funding foreign and distant wars as justifiable, and relieving business from
needs to control pollutants.The "platform" is all over the
place..... freedom of choice - but don't you dare think about buying a
beer in a restaurant.
Kent C. DeForrestRe: "Why are you not lashing out against
right-wing talk radio"...I assume he's not lashing out
against "right-wing talk radio" because it's not the same thing.
Nobody's REQUIRED to listen to "right-wing talk radio"... we are
REQUIRED to do what the Government says.IF he doesn't want his
brain to be controlled by the often vilified "right-wing talk radio"...
he can just turn it off and ignore it (like you probably do). We can't do
that with Government Regulations, can we?So WHY would he lash out?
Why would he act like you? He's complaining about government forced
beliefs, forced behavior, and regulation in our lives... So WHY would he
complain about something he is totally not even required to be involved in?
That makes no sense! Why lash out about something... when you can just not
listen?It's just an illogical juxtaposition.
Mr. West screams we need less regulations to enjoy more freedom. I'm
willing to bet he also supports more regulaitons to enforce his way of life and
morals. Mr. West probably has no qualms about abortion restrictions, gay
marriage restrictions, alcohol restrictions, etc. "Mr, West,
tear down this Zion Curtain!"
To "EDM"Prior to the ACA a person with pre-existing conditions was more
free to get insurance than they are now.Prior to the ACA an much of
the regulation that proceeded it a person with pre-existing conditions could get
insurance. The only catch was that the insurance company would not pay for the
pre-existing condition for 6 to 9 months, depending on the company's
policy.Now, a person with a pre-existing condition has less freedom.
They no longer can choose to buy insurance. They are required by law to have
insurance. So, they are less free now under the ACA than they were before.To those that don't think there is a problem along the borders, you
should read about the TERRORISTS that have been caputred trying to enter. If
you don't think there is a problem read the following:"Signs in Arizona warn of smuggler dangers" Washington Post"SWAT teams dispatched as gun battle unfolds near Escobares" The
Monitor"Controversial Muslim cleric caught being smuggled into
U.S. over Mexico border" in the Daily Mail
cavetroll,You're Zion Curtain thingy is a valiant effort to
deflect this topic and take the discussion down a tangent that is not really a
big issue to most people now days. That curtain is coming down gradually and
isn't really a big issue now days. So I don't know if you're
going to be able to bait many people into lashing out on that one.I
hope we can stay on topic...
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