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Published: Monday, Nov. 11 2013 11:10 p.m. MST

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"As Muslims, Siddiqui and Ahmad shun alcohol, illicit drugs and pre-marital sex — the same values promoted in the BYU Honor Code.

The men also pray several times a day, focus on the family and stress the importance of religious study and repentance.

"Whenever I'm talking about the religions, I try to bring up similarities," Siddiqui said. "I think that's a good way of talking about religion."

And both men are happy to share their beliefs.

This semester, Siddiqui taught his friends and roommates about Islam during family home evening.

Last November, Ahmad won the BYU Religious Education Student Symposium with a paper he'd written during his Book of Mormon class comparing Mormonism and Islam.

"We emphasize the same teachings, the same set of beliefs, even though the way of participating (is different)," Ahmad said. "We're essentially asking for the same thing, asking God for guidance and for repentance. As long as we keep respecting those (common values) … it builds mutual trust and is helpful in the long run."

(DeseretNews: "Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets" Dec 2009)

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@atl134 – “So we can insult Islam, Catholicism, the LDS church, etc, just not the members?”

It’s not about insulting… it’s about being aware of reality and not letting our liberal sensibilities (most of which I share by the way) make us allergic to justified intolerance. It is no vice to be intolerant of intolerance (again, the religion not the people).

Was Churchill insulting Germans when he proclaimed the Nazi ideology for what it was?

RE: Old Testament - if our society was modeled on the prescriptions contained in it, we would look remarkably similar to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan under the Taliban (coincidence?). Thankfully (for Christianity and world peace) the New Testament mitigates much of the socio-pathology found in the Old.

To all our Muslim brothers & sisters who value freedom, co-existence, women’s rights (not to mention the laws & traditions of your newly adopted country) over the teachings to the contrary contained in your sacred books, thank you.

Now please help us convince your fellow Muslims the same before religion divides and destroys us all (obviously my blunt approach won’t work).

spring street

@Tayler D
Does "valueing" the "traditions of your newly adopted country" mean they must adhere to the"traditions" or are they allowed to keep their own providing they do not violate the law or the human rights of others? I would contend are then Christian's that do not respect the freedom and rights of others, do you hold them to the same standard or do they get a pass due to "tradition?" Should we make such sweeping generalities of Christians?

Somewhere In, HI

Unfortunately, too many people can't separate their religion from themselves so any perceived insult to their religion or beliefs is an insult to them personally. These are the people it is difficult to have a constructive and civil dialog with.

Mr. Smitty
Salt Lake City, UT

I think we should encourage jokes and jabs about religious beliefs when appropriate. During the past two years, ten children have died in Idaho because their parents refused to provide medical treatment for their children. The parents never went to prison because Idaho has a religious exemption law preventing prosecution of those who believe that faith healing alone without medical intervention is the best way to handle seriously ill children.

It's hard to joke about this, but it's clear such religious beliefs do not deserve our respect. In fact, they deserve ridicule. Most importantly, Idaho needs to change its religious exception law.

Sandy, UT


I am pretty confident that 99.99% of Mormons, Catholics, Protestants, Jews and Hindus would say that it is wrong to strap bombs to your self and blow up women and children. I know many good Muslims. It is the 20% that think that such activities are OK that disturb me. That is 200,000,000 people who think blowing up women and children is cool!

While you site some positive trends, there is a very long way to go until those who believe in using violence to enforce their religion are on a similar plane with other major religions.

If enough Muslims stood up and denounced each violent act it would likely reduce the frequency of them. However, 60% thinking their leaders should be more vocal against extremists is pretty lame. How about 99 percent condemning acts of violence in the name of Islam.

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