Published: Sunday, Nov. 10 2013 6:00 p.m. MST
IMO we may confuse Education with Culture in describing what is needed to break
out of the lower rungs of poverty. The culture of poverty breeds itself in
attitude and behavior. A person may have degrees(s) but lack the culture of
budgeting, deferring gratification, goal-setting and plain old
"grit".Our materialistic society is built upon having what
you want, now. Don't worry about payments just sign you name and drive it,
eat it, wear it, live in it now. We create a culture of seeking the latest item
regardless of need or ability to afford it, i.e., pay cash.A culture
of saving, deferring wants and selflessness in service and life will focus us
outward and we will find the way out of poverty, be it financial, cultural or
emotional.In my not so humble opinion.
A higher focus on financial education is what our country needs. Children
continue hearing that they need to work hard in school, to get a good
education, to then get a good job. This is wrong. Especially when many of the
jobs kids work so hard to get a good education to qualify for, are paying at or
below poverty level to begin with!A job is one of the riskiest
agreements that adults enter into. The potential for being fired at any moment,
for any reason, is scary business. While education may boost some to a new
level, the real issue is the type of education we are providing the future
generation. Traditional education provides little to no real world instruction
on money, credit, savings, investing, and the like. Being guided on how to read
your own financial statement should be the highest priority, as opposed to
teaching math most kids will never use, or being forced to write 30+ page
research papers for university assignments that, if we're being honest,
typically remain unused and forgotten about once the assignment gets turned in.
Real life financial how-to's are what's missing in our current
The article overlooks a few problems that are causing upward mobility to cease.
One of these is no father in the home. Studies have shown that homes without
fathers remain in poverty much longer than homes with two parents. Others have
mentioned institutionalized welfare, and that is a big problem, but again, it
generally stems from no father in the home.
Shame on any business that refuses to hire someone that is unemployed. That is
not the American way. If I find out a business does this I will not patronize
them. The answer is in the scriptures. Give a man a fish you feed him for a
day. Teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime.
Ready "Understanding Poverty" by Ruby Payne. It explains all you need
to know about generational and situational poverty and how to overcome it.
Those who "make it" follow the rules you outline, but they also learn to
live within their means. It doesn't matter how much you make. If you
spend more than that, you're on the road to destruction.I have no
data to support this, but I also suspect that the successful NEVER spend any
significant time on public assistance. Being on the dole is addictive.
(cont)I got an education and worked hard all my adult life. My first
experience with unemployment came in 2003 after a 30 year career. I found it
was WAY too easy to NOT find a job. Sure, there *WERE* no jobs in 2003, so that
re-enforced the behavior. I was getting $444 per week TAX FREE for NOT working.
Why would I ever take a job paying less than $20/hr under these conditions? My
take-home pay would be the same. I was thankful for the money, but the
circumstances made it far too easy to sit back and wait for the "ideal"
position to open up, rather than accept an "underemployed" position.I think welfare should be left to churches and the private sector. In those
settings, there is better oversight, and a more personalized approach to finding
appropriate "help" for the recipients. The government only knows how to
throw money at the problem, which solves little and encourages abuse. It's
also NOT charity if taxpayers are FORCED to provide the support. Charity needs
to be voluntary.
Re:KathyRuby Payne's book was not peer-reviewed, was self-published
and has received much criticism. Utah, with its large majority of
Mormons, is the perfect place to show us how we don't need govt programs to
deal with poverty, that individuals and charities can take over aiding the poor
Over the past forty or so years, nine out of ten of my parents children made it
out of poverty (but we didn't realize until much later that feel into this
category) and we all did it the same way, we worked hard and mostly made smart
decisions.My parents never had help except my Grandpa's garden and as
far as I know, neither have any of us children. We don't actually help
those by helping those that don't want to help themselves.
Alt 34Food stamp expenditures rose from 30 Billion in 2007 to 74
Billion in 2012. During the same time, expenditures per person were up almost
30 percent even though inflation was about 10 percent. Maybe we should all just
get on food stamps. The commercials make it look fun.
Anecdotal stories are great, and I congratulate everyone of you on this board
who has successfully improved your lot in life. The fact of the matter is that
it is tougher to live the American dream, because we are losing blue collar jobs
to automation and third world countries who have no regulations protecting
workers and the wages paid are practically zero. There are two
problems at work here one is that we do have an entitlement mentality and there
are those who would rather sit than work, and that has been well discussed. But
the other part of the problem deals with those businesses who only have one
concern, the bottom line. They no longer have an America first attitude, where
they could live with a little less profit and keep jobs here at home. Hundreds
of thousands of jobs have been exported, and the majority of jobs being created
today are minimum wage jobs, and those jobs simply do not pay enough to raise a
family on. American businesses must be part of the solution by creating good
paying jobs here in America, or this problem will only get worse.
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