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Published: Saturday, Nov. 9 2013 11:45 p.m. MST

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BigSkies
Issaquah, WA

Although disappointing, this loss is understandable. BYU was, indeed, overmatched, but they played hard and turned in an acceptable performance.

The same cannot be said, however, about their losses to Virginia and Utah. I'm still upset about those.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

BigSkies

"The same cannot be said, however, about their losses to Virginia and Utah. I'm still upset about those."

Maybe you should try to give credit to Virginia and Utah for their wins over byu. It might make you feel better to admit that byu got beat rather than insisting that byu beat themselves.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

@MyPerspective

BYU had Virginia until a fluke interception at the end of the game. It is undeniable that BYU beat themselves in that game.

With the massive improvement that BYU has made since the Utah game it is completely understandable that BYU wants that one back.

Wisconsin has some excellent players and BYU was clearly over matched. They will learn and grow from that experience, and will be better for it.

Utes home for the holidays
Sandy, UT

@My Perspective, I think you need to re-read the comment you're responding too. Nowhere does it say byu beat themselves in those games. It just says in those games byu wasn't overmatched, didn't play hard, and didn't turn in a respectable performance. And no, those aren't the same thing. Try again pal.

Big 12 Call Yet?
Ogden, UT

Byu's biggest problem is your players just aren't as talented. Yes, there are a few good ones, but overall your lack of talent is EXPOSED when you play good teams.

Wisconsin's average recruiting class last 4 years: 3.0 stars
byu's average recruiting class last 4 years: 2.6 stars
As a point of reference, Alabama is a 3.7

And before you byu fans get all upset and tell me stars don't guarantee wins, let me say this:

Did I say stars guarantee wins?

No, and guess what else does NOT guarantee wins?

Good coaching
Fast players
Strong players
Good game plan
Smart players
Hard working players
Good practices

You going to try and pretend it doesn't matter if a team doesn't do those things well?

The are many things that go into it, but having superior players is a HUGE part of the game.

And Wisconsin has superior athletes.

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

As usual, my little sister is a little off on her assessments of talent and achievements; let me set the record straight:

Record versus BCS teams this season
BYU 3-3
Utah 1-5

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

Talk about being over-matched and under-talented, the Utes are clearly in over their heads in the PAC 12.

Kyle is 12-19(39%) versus PAC 12 teams, with three losing conference seasons.
Bronco is 9-8(53%) versus PAC 12 teams.

Y-Ask-Y?
Provo, UT

However Cougar fans try to soothe the sting of this loss (they were dominated), it still comes across as pathetic.

It is good to see so many exercise discretion and remain silent!

JLFuller
Boise, ID

Boise State has never lost to Wisconsin.

curlingsteel
Eagle Mountain, UT

Y ask Y? ... Because I'm a Cougar Fan. I love the Cougars, win or lose! They're awesome. I can't resist saying something about them. Apparently, you can't resist it either.
It was a great game! We'll continue to schedule tough teams for BYU to play. Losing to Wisconsin isn't so painful, because Wisconsin's offensive line is awesome, and their defense line is phenomenal. BYU could learn a few things about protection from them.
BYU needs to get rid of the ball faster, plain and simple. That would have made the difference. Tight ends were very under-utilized. BYU has been doing this all season. It works against weaker teams, but the lack of blitzing, and conservative play-calling is getting old.
As to the other Y-haters, go find a team to root FOR!!! Try rooting for the U. Go to the next article and post something there to explain why the U is so awesome and worth watching. I'll never know the difference, because I don't care about the U, like most people reading this article, I CAN READ, and no mention of the U.
In the meantime... GO COUGARS!

Scores
Idaho Falls, ID

I sat and watched every single play and was shaking my head back and forth, not so much that the Cougars were getting beat, but by watching the talent of that Wisconsin team. This was a great experience for our coaches and players. They will continue to schedule tough teams like Wisconsin and they will inch themselves closer and closer to match their physical style and athleticism. I think the future is very bright as the Cougars move forward. They're heading in the right direction, that's for sure.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

JLFuller

"Boise State has never lost to Wisconsin."

Boise State is 0-1 versus Wisconsin, losing to the Badgers 24-28 on Sep 6, 1997.

BYU is 1-1 versus Wisconsin, losing to the Badgers 17-27 in 2013, but stomping the Badgers in Camp Randall 28-3 on Sep 20, 1980.

JLFuller
Boise, ID

Let's see here. Boise State, a div 1AA program at the time, was beaten by 4 points. BYU a so called "serious" 1A program was beaten badly by... how much was that again? Even BYU's coach said the Cougs were outclassed. And just to clarify, BSU is 2 and 1 against BYU. Just saying...

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

@christyb and uteanymous

christyb claims that byu has beaten 3 BCS teams this year. That would be Texas, Georgia Tech, and who? byu has beaten 2 BCS teams this year. Stretching your facts to prove your point only backfires if they are not accurate.

As to a byu fan crowing over their supposed superiority over Utah, let's start with the only stat that counts: head-to-head competition. How did byu do against Utah this year? Last year? The year before? The year before that?

NevadaCoug
Overton, NV

GoRed, the third team would be Houston, which is a member of the American Conference. The champion of that conference gets an automatic BCS bid.

And since head-to-head is the only stat that counts, then Utah is definitely better than Stanford. Right? Right? Everybody in the nation believes that!

Un, nope. Only delusional Utah "fans".

fender
Washington, UT

Come on NevadaCoug. That logic only goes so far and depends on BYU being on par with Stanford, and nobody in the nation believes that. Stanford's body of work is much more significant than BYU's obviously. Utah and BYU are fairly evenly matched and if they played again...who knows? My guess is that oddsmakers would give Utah a slight edge, because of the win against a very physical Stanford team, but no way Utah runs away with it. Utah earned its bragging rights this year, so why not just concede that instead of going to the tortured logic?

Sports Are Great
Salt Lake City, UT

GoRed, the answer is Houston. Does it hurt falling on your face like that?

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

Y-Ask-Y
Why do Ute fans feel the need to come on every BYU story and make it about them? Don't you have enough to do pushing for your team to emerge in their wonderful new conference?

Utah has not won a single FBS game they have played this year decisively (more than 10 points), and in each win, they were in fact lucky to win at all--or were pulled over the finish line by their PAC ref squad. Doesn't that give you enough to do? Anything else is pretty sad hypocrisy.

Meanwhile, BYU has beaten four FBS teams, all with winning records, decisively (USU by 17, BSU by 17, GT by 18, TEX by 19). And all these teams are vying for their conference titles--two of which are BCS conferences.

WON84
PLANO, TX

I thought that for the most part, particularly on defense, BYU called the right plays but, Wisconsin executed near perfection with a quarterback putting the ball in a very small space on third and long on multiple occasions.

A couple of call overturns claiming passes were uncatchable where unfortunate but, I still don't think the outcome of the game would have been different. I also didn't like some of the conservative play calling when it came to punting, once inside the Wisconsin 30 and another time when BYU was down three posessions with about 9 minutes to play.

And to the fool who referenced recruiting star rankings: 3 stars isn't bad but, doesn't come close to explaining Wisconsin's success in consistently being a contender in the B1G.

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

From the latest Sagarin Ratings:

BYU SOS #10 - So much for the weak schedule argument.
(BTW Utah SOS #1 - Congratulations)

BYU #19 @6-3 (Wisconsin #7)

5 of BYU's 6 wins are against teams in the Sagarin top 40

Georgia Tech #25
Texas #31
Houston #33
Boise State #38
Utah State #39

This was a loss to a team the should be in the top 10 (without PAC-12 officiating in the ASU game.)

We got handled on the line of scrimmage both ways. This can be fixed through development of players like Peoples, Kearsley and Hinds when he gets back from his mission. No need to panic just congratulations to a great Wisconsin team with a great coach.

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