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Utah basketball: Runnin' Utes rout Evergreen State in opener

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  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 13, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    I would have like to see Utah play a tougher non-conference schedule, but it is, what it is. The PAC 12 conference will provide all the opportunity that Utah needs to prove itself. Anything short of the NIT will be dissapointing.

    GO UTES

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 13, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    "Chris B

    Salt Lake City, UT

    Impressive win. And for those who make fun of Utah's schedule, you people made fun of the schedule last year. And guess who had the most top 100 RPI wins of anyone in the state?

    The Pac 12 University of Utah Utes

    So either the other local teams had terrible schedules as well, or their teams are just inept at beating any good teams.

    I think we'll be 5-7th in the Pac 12 this year. Excited for the season.

    Go Utes"

    Is this similar to your (8-4) and in contention for the Pac 12 South until the final week prediction?

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    I am a BYU fan and don't like Utah but don't particularly hate the Utes. But beating any team by that much is not something to mock. Utah played well in their first game. But it also has to be noted that Evergreen State is not only NAIA Division II, they are a NAIA Division II team that only won 2 games last year. They lost by 83 to Seattle University last year, a team that finished 10th in the WAC last year. So while it is nothing to scoff at, I will gladly take the two 9 point wins BYU has so far this year over Division I opponents (both of whom could quite likely end up in the NCAA tournament) over the Ute's 1 84 point victory over a team that many high school teams could beat.

  • AKFan JUNEAU, AK
    Nov. 12, 2013 1:26 a.m.

    When will the Utes get a break from this crushing schedule? How long can the morale be sustained when they are only beating lesser quality teams by 80 points?

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    poyman...how did the byu / Utah game play out last year? It will be interesting to see which one improved the most over the last year because that will be the winner this year. See you in a few weeks!

  • aggfan77 Shire, 00
    Nov. 11, 2013 9:56 a.m.

    Hey Ute fans. Y fans and Aggie fans! Just for fun....lets support instate teams until we play one of them. The better we all do the better it is for us!

    Good luck Aggies!
    Good luck Utes!
    Good luck BYU, Weber and SUU!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    Real Bass

    "Embarrassing that anyone would call thi a nice win or defend the u's schedule."

    Thanks for your opinion. I was watching the Pac-12 Network last night and noticed that Gonzaga poured in 100 points in their basketball game. I'm sure the byu collective is giddy with excitement about the attention that accomplishment brings to their highly respected conference. Do you know who Gonzaga's opponent was? Neither do I.

    You might take the advice of Surf is Up and ease up on the criticism.

    Thanks for stopping by.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 6:43 a.m.

    Thanks for bringing some civility to the discussion, Reno Cougs Fan 68.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Nov. 9, 2013 11:51 p.m.

    All three major Utah teams won their first games!!! Congrats to all three and keep the wins coming!!!

    Go BYU!!!
    Go Utah!!!
    Go USU!!!

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Nov. 9, 2013 10:31 p.m.

    As a BYU fan I'd like to admonish my fellow Cougars to not throw stones so hard concerning the ease of the pre season in the Utes schedule. This is common practices for most programs-- in that it allows the team to tune up and also gain confidence. It is true that, if there are too many cupcakes on the schedule, that the team might not be sufficiently prepared when conference play begins, but the focus right now is to ease into the season.

    For you Utes who like to mock the WCC-- although it is true that the venues in which most games are played are smaller arenas the teams in the WCC are the beneficiaries of not having to compete with football programs for university resources. So they pretty much focus on basketball. The result is some very decent basketball teams. Teams that can beat PAC teams as well.

    Looking forward to the basketball year.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 9, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    Embarrassing that anyone would call thi a nice win or defend the u's schedule.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 7:11 p.m.

    I really think the reason that the u has scheduled these cream puff teams is that they are afraid of a repeat of a couple of years ago and watch as half of the team takes off for destinations unknown. Think about it! If you don't win, the team gets depressed and the players want to go somewhere else. The problem is, when and if this team starts dropping some of these games and then lose big time to their conference foes, it will have the same effect!

    Keep going uties, your recruiting with this kind of scheduling is going to be laughable. Who wants to come to SLC and play for a cellar-dweller team that schedules glorified High School teams? Keep shooting for the stars and forget about the basket.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2013 1:22 p.m.

    @mindgames
    Aurora, CO

    Agree with PAC Man.

    This schedule is pathetic.

    ------------

    And I agree with my Cougar Nation friends. But why do you guys care, unless you're a season ticket holder?

    Utah didn't create this type of schedule to be able to make the dance. It was created to raise the program from the lowest point in history. Why do you guys have such a hard time understanding that fact?

    As far as this Ute is concerned, there was no mass exodus from the team and the talent seems to be improving. It's early but Delon Wright looks like the real deal and I can't wait for next years class.

    Go Utes!!

  • Outside-View Federal Way, WA
    Nov. 9, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    nice progress.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 9, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    @myperspective

    I would come back and talk after the BYU game, but after the Cougs win their 12th out of the last 13th meeting between the two teams I really don't think you or some of the ute fans that know something about Basketball will feel like talking much... I have a question for you... When was the last time that a ute team (other than in Gymnastics) ever beat another school 11 out of the last 12 times that they played each other? Never... But BYU has done it to the utes in Basketball and that streak looks to go longer, and of course the Cougs have done it to the utes in Football...

    It's tough to be a ute fan today, but I give it up to you for trying...

    BTW, how many fans watched Utah beat the big bad NAIA team from Evergreen State at the HC? lol... That's what I thought.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    @GoRed: Better go look at the strength of schedule RPI rankings before making those kind of statements. Also anyone who thinks BYU has not been out scheduling the toughest teams they can is just not paying attention.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 9, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin - "It's funny hearing BYU fans getting on Utah's case for having a weak schedule. Do we have your permission to return the favor in January when we're playing UCLA the same day you play Pacific?"

    U may want to find another analogy since both Pacific and UCLA were both NCAA invites last year. Good luck against Grand Canyon while we're playing Iowa State and Texas.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    From the "fans" of a 35,000 student school who has a couple of the biggest athletic facilities in the country and nobody wants their football team and their basketball team is relegated to playing their road games in gymnasiums.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Lifelong Republican
    "Are we talking BYU football? Are you talking about Texas, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Boise State, Nevada, Utah?"

    Actually, no...we are not talking about byu football. But while you are at it, the programs you list are recognizable names in the football world but not a single one is living up to its reputation this year. So, since you brought up this off topic, byu football has a weak schedule this year and 2014 is even worse.

    btw...there isn't a Utah fan on the planet who would disagree that the Utes preseason schedule is weak. Not one. Top to bottom, it's nothing worth a hoot. Coach K has a strategy in place, he knows his players, and the building continues. I also don't think there is a Utah fan on the plant who isn't behind Coach K 100%.

    Frankly, I think rants from byu fans such as yourself don't like what they see the Utes becoming.

  • Sambonethegreat Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Chris, Chris... when are the Rundown Utes coming to play in the Spectrum? We handed your big brother a nice little loss last night. Don't U want a turn?!

  • mdp Bountiful, utah
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Cant win in the Pac-12, might as well load up on Patsies...

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    It's funny hearing BYU fans getting on Utah's case for having a weak schedule. Do we have your permission to return the favor in January when we're playing UCLA the same day you play Pacific?

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    Just checked byu's preseason schedule and here's what I found...

    Sprinkled in with impressive games scheduled against Stanford, Texas, Iowa St., UMass, Utah, and Oregon (demonstrating Holmoe's desperation to get byu in a real conference particularly the Pac-12) are games with...wait for it...

    Mount St Mary's Mountaineers
    The "Colmes" (what is this?)
    North Texas
    Prairie View

    So, Justmythoughts, CougFaninTX, But seriously folks!, rj, BYUalum (a byu fan criticizing ANYONE for having Idaho St on their schedule gets a huge LOL!), Down under, souptwins, poyman, mindgames, and PAC man, let the excuses begin.

    I have to wonder if the day will ever come when Holmoe finally acknowledges that it takes more than begging for games against Pac-12 teams to be a part of an elite conference.

    Impressive stats for the Utes last night. Coach K was very clear that the objective here is to build confidence. If I had to choose between the strategy of Coach K and the above list of disgruntled byu fans, I'm going with Coach K.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    Funny comments today. Especially the ute fans trying to justify their weak schedule by claiming BYU pads theirs withe cupcakes. Are we talking BYU football? Are you talking about Texas, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Boise State, Nevada, Utah?

    Their is no way to justify this pathetic of a pre season schedule. Yes everybody plays one or two of these games to get their team going but go take a look at the pre season schedule.

    The rest: Evergreen State (Nov. 8), UC Davis (Nov. 15), Grand Canyon (Nov. 21), Lamar (Nov. 22), Savannah State (Nov. 23), Ball State (Nov. 27), Idaho State (Dec. 10), Texas State (Dec. 19), St. Katherine (Dec. 28)

    St. Katherine?

    Good luck in the pac 12 with that lineup to get you ready.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    The truth is, this schedule is pretty weak. But our program has been pretty weak, and if this is part of coach K's strategy to build us back up, so be it; whatever he's doing is working. We saw evidence of that in the Pac 12 tournament in Vegas last year.

    Let's hope this is the last year our schedule is like this.

    Let's also hope BYU fans continue to fail to see the irony of talking about another team padding their schedule with cupcakes, because it's priceless!

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    @GoRed

    I totally agree with you. Well said.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    Aren't most of Utah's preseason games against WCC teams? If they are not members of that conference they should be, because they are about the same level of competition.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    One game into the season, against an NAIA Division II school no less, and we're already having to plan for next season because there's absolutely no possible way for the Utes to earn a double-digit RPI to qualify for an at-large NCAA bid with this pathetic OOC schedule.

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    This is just sad. It is sad how far the "runnin' utes" have fallen that this is how the season has to open. Yeah great win. We learned nothing about this team and this "win" will actually be a pox on the resume if the team actually gets enough wins to be considered for a post season tournament. Likely the football team won't go bowling. Are we saying the bball team won't play in the post season either?

  • Glenn A. Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    Those of you making fun of the schedule (BYU fans), don't forget that just a few short years ago you were clamoring for these sort of opponents for the Utes because they had a legitimate chance of losing. Who can forget Southwest Baptist University, and how much fun you had with that one?

    I agree, the Utes' non-conference schedule is pathetic this season, and probably won't challenge them much. As embarrassing it is to say, though, it shows some of the progress the Utes have made that they can not only win these games handily, but have rival fans crying foul for playing games that are too easy. Baby steps I know, but they're steps.

  • Justmythoughts Provo, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    Impressive win Utes...I think your ready to take on the Campfire Girls all-star team!

  • Utah rules Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Pathetic schedule. I love my utes but this is no way to build a team The win was great but zi smell trouble when we have to play decent competition. I am disappointed in the athletic administration for going this weak route for wins. I would rather have a few loses to tough teams than be laughed at by BYU ans Utah fans alike. We will et zero respect for these types of wins. Our SOS stinks.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:18 a.m.

    Even though the final score looks impressive, it tells us nothing about the Utes. Lone Peak's high school team (last year) could have easily beaten Evergreen.

    I can even understand scheduling 2 or 3 teams of this caliber, but to schedule about 8 cupcakes in non-conference makes no sense and will not prepare the Utes for conference play.

    Utes will continue to look impressive against these cupcakes, but reality will show up when U get into conference play.

    I still don't think the Utes get to .500 this year.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:18 a.m.

    Let me get this straight. We have BYU fans coming onto a sports article on the Utes and making fun of their schedule? This, from the fan base of the same school whose football team routinely plays the bottom 6 or 7 teams in the country in order to pad their schedule to make them appear to the voters back east that they are a "Top 25" team.

    Unbelievable. Only in Utah.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:15 a.m.

    I see that BYU and USU both played quality div. 1 opponents and utah played a high school team. What a cowardly approach to getting instant wins. It seems the first 9-10 games will be the same type of opponent. Nice work coach K. I hope the utah fans don't get tired of seeing cupcake teams the entire pre-season. BYU is the only game they can really get excited about but then again with BYU owning the utes 11 of 12 maybe not.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 7:47 a.m.

    poyman
    "I also suspect that it will cause the big bad pac12 foes to shake in their boots."

    Come back and talk after the byu game then, poyman. Maybe then you can put your high powered attorney from Lincoln City, Oregon analytical skills to good use. Question for you...when was the last time you saw an article about Utah basketball where the words "out manned" were used to describe the opponent?

    I will agree with you on one point, though...anytime a Utah schedule has byu as the 2nd of the two toughest opponents, it is embarrassing. The Utes may pay a heavy price for their weak schedule once conference play starts and they have become accustomed to winning by 80+ points.

    Down under

    "What is NAIA, a high school league? Way to go utes. Really BIG win."

    Are you kidding? I thought you were a byu fan. byu's entire season is played in high school gymnasiums. You should be well familiar with it.

    How's this for an opinion: I think the Utes re-establish themselves after a short three seasons with Coach K at the helm and neither one of you like what you see.

  • CincyRed13 SLC, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    It's always good to start off the season with a win. I don't think last night's game proved anything has changed up on the hill though. Evergreen State, let's be honest, is no more than a high school team. Even if a semi-decent D1 basketball program didn't beat them like the Utes did, I'd say you have problems. Utah's first real test shouldn't come until they play Boise State. Until then, if the Utes are even a decent team they shouldn't lose.

  • SSmith Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 7:29 a.m.

    Right on PAC man and mindgames. Just like under exercising, the Utes will be under-prepared for conference play.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:11 a.m.

    The Utes owned us 4 yrs straight in football! I can't wait to see us meet in basketball this year. It sounds like their squad is immensely better this year. It should be a very exciting game and I can't wait!

  • rj Moss, Norway
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:00 a.m.

    I didn't know it was possible for an NAIA school to play a sanctioned game against an NCAA (much less a D1) school. These are two classifications that have no business being on the same floor together. Embarrassing.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 12:02 a.m.

    Now this is a real schedule for the mighty Utah BB team to flex their muscle and strength:

    "Evergreen State (Nov. 8), UC Davis (Nov. 15), Grand Canyon (Nov. 21), Lamar (Nov. 22), Savannah State (Nov. 23), Ball State (Nov. 27), Idaho State (Dec. 10), Texas State (Dec. 19), St. Katherine (Dec. 28)"

    You've got to be kidding! Oh, silly me. I forgot! It doesn't matter...They're in the PAC 12.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:55 p.m.

    What is NAIA, a high school league? Way to go utes. Really BIG win.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:40 p.m.

    This was far more a financial transaction than an athletic event.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:36 p.m.

    After losing to Sacrament State and Cal Northridge last year in preseason on their home floor, the utes have fashioned themselves with a less challenging preseason schedule... Great call utes... pile up those impressive naia wins, I am sure that that will catch the eyes of the selection committee come March. I also suspect that it will cause the big bad pac12 foes to shake in their boots.

  • ute94 Corona, CA
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:26 p.m.

    Regardless of who they play, to beat a team by 84 points is unreal, give them credit for playing a solid game, heck some teams can't beat these NAIA teams, look at Utah a few years ago losing to Southwest Baptist! This program is on the rise and even though their schedule sucks and they probably won't go to the tournament, they need momentum and they just need to get into a postseason tournament even it's the CBI. You can tell this team is way more athletic than last year's team, I'm excited to see what they can do this season especially Wright.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:44 p.m.

    Watching the end of that Oregon game after this game was over, that Moser kid is gonna be a handful. Lots of speed and skill on that team, but not a lot of the size inside they had last year. It'll be fun to see how all the conference's teams develop their play by January.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:35 p.m.

    Agree with PAC Man.

    This schedule is pathetic.

    ESPN had an article about the 10 worst schedules in basketball and here is what they had to say:

    Utah Utes

    "Toughest: at Boise State (Dec. 3), BYU (Dec. 14)

    Next-toughest: Fresno State (Dec. 7)

    The rest: Evergreen State (Nov. 8), UC Davis (Nov. 15), Grand Canyon (Nov. 21), Lamar (Nov. 22), Savannah State (Nov. 23), Ball State (Nov. 27), Idaho State (Dec. 10), Texas State (Dec. 19), St. Katherine (Dec. 28)

    After struggling for most of the season, Utah won four of its final five games last spring and entered the offseason full of enthusiasm about the 2013-14 campaign. Reaching the NCAA tournament, however, will be darn near impossible with a schedule that includes just one true road game (at Boise State) and only two contests against likely tourney-bid contenders (Boise State and BYU). Playing a weak schedule the past two seasons made sense. But the Utes should’ve stepped it up a bit this season."

    Beating schools by 100 points won't empress anybody and won't make Utah PAC-10.2 contenders. It's great to be in the "Conference of Champions" but this is embarrassing.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:30 p.m.

    Wright's gonna be a fun player to watch.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    Impressive win. And for those who make fun of Utah's schedule, you people made fun of the schedule last year. And guess who had the most top 100 RPI wins of anyone in the state?

    The Pac 12 University of Utah Utes

    So either the other local teams had terrible schedules as well, or their teams are just inept at beating any good teams.

    I think we'll be 5-7th in the Pac 12 this year. Excited for the season.

    Go Utes

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Nov. 8, 2013 9:51 p.m.

    "Facing an outmanned NAIA Division II team from the Cascade Collegiate Conference, the Utes cruised to a 128-44 victory over Evergreen State."

    Way to challenge yourselves Utes. Next game, why don't you play East H.S.

    Now that would be a real test.