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Published: Friday, Nov. 8 2013 9:15 p.m. MST

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pleblian
salt lake city, utah

Logan, first play from scrimmage, pick six
Second play from scrimmage, completed pass.
Third play from scrimmage, completed pass to the other team, returned to the 10 yard line.

two minutes into the game. Logan down 13-0. Missing your qb lately? Thanks USHAA, everyone learned a valuable lesson here, I'm sure.

papi_chulo
Ogden, UT

If Logan has Nelson they blow Olympus out of the water....the O-line could not block at all and the QB gave them the game with his other pick in the 2nd half. Thanks UHSAA, now you can have your all SLC final 4 at RES. We all know that it is rigged anyways!

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

I love it! I love the fact that they don't let Nelson get away with it because of the school or his name. I love that Oly won. Now everybody go ask Nelson why he kicked the kid. And I don't want to hear anything about an injury. He ran the play fine with no problem, and he got up and walked away fine with no limping or hobbling. I love it!

Eagle78
Salt Lake City, UT

Silence from Logan as the hype machine dies.

See you next year Logan. Maybe with a little less hot air from the fans!

Park Lloyd
Salt Lake City, UT

First, it's too bad that Logan didn't have all their 1st string on the field. (I will note that when I watched the play that resulted in Nelson's ejection, I couldn't see the kick, but since both referees who were right there both threw their flags immediately and at the same time, it seems they at least were clear on what they saw.) That being said, the backup QB (didn't catch his name) played a great 4th quarter, and was moving the ball and getting the team down the field. (He may have played a great whole game. I only saw the last part of the 4th.) He knew which end of the football to hold, so it wasn't like they had to put in another position player to throw the ball. But it seemed like a pretty even game. I don't know whether Logan would have beaten Oly with Nelson. It was a good game, came right down to the wire, and could have gone either way if Logan had completed the pass on that last play instead of Oly getting the sack. Great game. Go Titans!

Big U
Salt Lake City, UT

Ill be honest. As an East supporter, I wish Nelson could have played. I believe they would've won and would be playing this week. Tough break for Logan. Maybe next year, all teams will be able to finish their seasons without having drama like there has been the past two years. Logan deserves credit for a Great Season.

TD71
Salt Lake City, UT

Would Nelson have made a difference? Of course, but I think Oly would have still made a game of it – they gave Logan’s defense plenty to handle. All the cry baby talk for Nelson demeans an otherwise exciting game that came down to the wire on a perfect night for football.

H-TownTiger
Hurricane, 00

@Utahbruin

he didn't kick the kid, he was trying to get himself free. And what do you mean by letting him not get away with it? Unless in the first round game he was screaming out vanities and punching other players, I really doubt he was deserving of an ejection. But, however, he was ejected, So UHSAA has to suspend him a game. he didn't do anything worthy of an ejection. It's one of the few reasons why a lot of people absolutely hate how the UHSAA runs things.

Timpvew-&-UVU
Provo, UT

Sorry but I'm Sad to say Logan should've won, and I really wanted them to win!

But... there is NO WAY Olympus WILL BEAT EAST. They do not that the Strength, nor the skill to put up a good enough fight to even have a chance at winning. East is a beast. The onlt 2 teams that had a chance at beating East (If they're at 100%) were Logan and Timpview.

Now that Logan is out of the picture, Timpview is the only one who has enough skill on their team and enough experience with East in the Play Offs (4* in the last decade) to be only only team left to actually win state over East.

If East Wins If Timpview Wins
East: 42 Timpview: 34
Timpview: 35 East: 31

UgottaloveMaxie
Salt Lake City, UT

@Big U -

"I'll be honest. As an East supporter, I wish Nelson could have played. I believe they would've won and would be playing this week.

Really? As an East supporter wouldn't you want to play Olympus, seeing as it's coach Aaron Whitehead won three region titles and went to two state semifinals and racked up a 70% winning percentage from 03-07 as THE COACH OF EAST HIGH?! He made the East program a consistent competitor and credible this past decade.

How soon people forget...

CVMD
North Logan, UT

Congrats to Olympus. They took advantage of the situation and did not fold. Enjoy RES. However to all you Oly fans, Olympus broke off 1 run against Logan's defense, but otherwise got stuffed. That includes 3 downs with a minus 5 yards from the 5 yard line after a pick. Logan scored 21 points on drives with its safety playing quarterback. Good luck next week because you won't get 17 points handed to you by the UHSAA. I wish you had the capability to beat East, I really do. The last 3 meetings between Logan and East, the blogs have predicted East murdering Logan, just like this year. East is 0 and 3. The excuses flew on these sites after the losses. Hopefully, Oly can carry on that tradition of an 'unexpected' victory against East.

jstsayin
Bountiful, UT

It was a great game that should be a great learning experience to all teams. Football is a team sport and every player is important to their team. Everyone has an assignment and their success is determined by everyone executing their assignment properly. Nelson's ejection in the Bountiful game was a result of him, his team-mates and coaches not being able to keep his attitude in check. A player who obviously was of such importance to his team needs to be kept in check. He was ejected because of two fouls which were both of an arrogant nature of "don't touch me - I'm too good". Don't get me wrong he is good, just needs to keep his attitude in check to really be the whole package. The UHSAA did nothing wrong - they upheld their rules which were set and posted - not something they made up when this situation arose. He knew what he was doing was a risk but was shocked when the punishment was enforced. Typical Nelson behavior.

wiseacre
Salt Lake City, UT

@popeye_chollo - we'll never know will we. All everyone knows is that no state championship for Logan and Favero.

Black & White
SLC, UT

The most unfortunate aspect of this outcome for Logan was that Nelson did this to himself and let down his teammates. It was he, not the UHSAA, who shoved a player for his first Personal Foul (which should have served as an adequate warning to tone down his antics), and it was he, not the UHSAA, who decided to kick his foot at the Bountiful defender's face which earned him a Flagrant Personal Foul AND appropriate Ejection.

I applaud the UHSAA for checking all the video evidence provided them (HUDL and Fox 13), discrediting a physician's bogus letter as irrelevant due to its ridiculous claim and his personal biased relationship to the family, upholding the two official's correct calls, and doing the right thing regardless of how unpopular it might have been in isolated, tunnel-visioned circles.

@pleblian, @papi, @H-Town, and anyone else who defends Nelson, your comments only demean the efforts, integrity and hardwork of Nelson's teammates, who put everything they had into this season and deserved the chance to move on -- only to have one persons selfishness rob them. It also degrades the honest efforts of Olympus who won fair and square.

CVMD
North Logan, UT

As a physician, I looked at the film early Sat morning prior to any additional evidence or knowledge of the situation. What was so interesting is not that the foot went forward, but the way it comes back. At first glance, I had to agree with the officials even though you cannot see any evidence of significant contact, certainly not contact to the face. But in looking at the film in real time it became very clear that I wasn't looking at a kick. It looked very much like a reflex. After about 15 looks, am I 100% sure? No. But I would easily testify to it in court as a medical expert as being very certain. And your medical expertise or the UHSAA medical evidence and refutation? None. That is the problem. I am absolutely disturbed at the unreported information presented and the assumptions in the previous comment. I am so happy to be done with the UHSAA. Every player and coach in Utah should be frightened by the UHSAA and the lack of an appeals process for a suspension during the playoffs.

pleblian
salt lake city, utah

Black & White,

When somebody disqualifies the other team's best player on a bad call. You do not win fair and square. You just take what was given.

As for disrespecting Nelson's teammates, I think they have a very different view of your condescending opinion.

Eagle78
Salt Lake City, UT

A good quarterback should be the driving force on your offense. He shouldn't BE your offense. Logan even admits that Nelson was 85% of their offense. I think that is absurd. If losing 1 player is the difference between being the self proclaimed best team in 4A, to losing in the quarterfinals then something is wrong. I have said it all year long... Logan was carried. Carried on the back of a ridiculously easy schedule, and on the back of a excellent QB. The team deserved to be in the playoffs, but I think this outcome was fitting. The championship goes to a TEAM, not a player. East, or Timpview will rightfully take the title this year. Both TEAMS are exceptional.

I can't help but cheer for Olympus as well. The Oly vs Springville ending was awesome.

Hawaii football fan
Salt Lake City, UT

Eagle,
Every once in a while a player IS the team. Such is the case this year with Jordan and Kafentzis, Timpview and Covey, Logan and Nelson, Alta and Lucero, Spanish and Money... Blah blah blah. Such is NOT the case with East... Or Bingham... Or Brighton... Or JD. They could lose 5 studs and still make the show. However, this is high school football and any of the above QB's have/had the potential to upset a "team" of athletes. As ridiculous as it sounds, Nelson at QB and Olympus loses by 21... And has a strong chance against East. As it stands, East will slaughter Olympus by 28. The Cinderella team had one of the weakest schedules in 4A, needed an act of God to beat Springville, then experienced divine intervention before taking the field against Logan. Storied season... But it's about to turn into a nightmare.

Coolhead
North Logan, UT

Let's see Eagle78. Chase throws the ball and then sprints and catches it. He runs and the opposing defense parts. His gaze from the sideline kept Olympus to 189 yards of total offense. Logan is a large 3A sized school (especially when the alternative High School is removed from UHSAA numbers). It doesn't recruit. It takes all kids, many who may not make other schools' teams as freshmen, coaches them, encourages 4 years of hard work and turns out winners. Please don't dis that effort. Remember, no Oline, no Chase. Yes, opposing coaches worried about how in the world to stop Chase. But they also wondered about how to stop state record holder Taylor Compton, or negate Hartman Rector or stop Chad Artist deep, both of whom will play Saturdays. The coaches changed their blocking to double and triple team Sam Bennion while still accounting for the blitz. Congratulate Olympus, but don't trash talk a team that puts the ball in the hands of its best athlete and wins. East has got to have mixed emotions. Logan has been an East slayer and getting the monkey off its back would be nice. But then, Logan might have won.

T-birds to win
Provo / Utah, UT

Hawaii, You are wrong again about Timpview, although Covey is a great playmaker on the offense for Timpview, it is their Defense that is their strong point. and most of their defensive players would be starters for East if they played for them also. They are the number one defense in 4A and according to Max Preps their strength of schedule is tougher than East. A lot of the points scored against them this year was against the second string, East will find out that Timpview doesn't give up points as easily as a lot of the teams East has played. about 9 of the players on the Timpview defense were starters on the championship team last year, and one of the new commers is Isaih Nacua, an ESPN 300 Recruit. Ya they have a good defense.

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