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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 6 2013 6:35 p.m. MST

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Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

I am not understanding how a real Cougar could cheer for Wisconsin. I was there the last time BYU played in Madison and the Cougars did very, hoping for the same score.

Cougar Passion
Salt Lake City, UT

@Wayne Rout:
I think it's kind of dangerous to question whether Rocky is a "real Cougar", since we know nothing of his situation--or, possibly, how things went for him as a student and player. I admittedly was quite surprised, however, that Rocky's sons chose not to follow in Dad's footsteps; in my household, the recognition of what can be accomplished for your religion by helping the church school do well far outweighs helping to boost regional pride.


@Cougar Passion
Please...in your household? Regional Pride? Come on, Rocky's son's, if active (and I have no idea), are most likely a blessing to that program. The hastening of the work of salvation across the country/globe needs great families like theirs in places like Lincoln. I'm assuming a lot here, but I've got to think that they're having a positive impact. Lighten up, friend. We're all in this together, and our church school has a pleothora of fine LDS student athletes to help the program succeed.

Frozen Chosen
Savage, MN

Lighten up, boys. A father can't force his sons to go to BYU - I'm not sure the younger one was even offered a scholarship from BYU. We all have our free agency.

I'll be at Camp Randall for the game Saturday - can't wait!


@Cougar Passion:

Are you saying that the best way to help "your religion" is to play for the church school? While I'm a BYU fan, I can see that one can do a lot of good by being a good example wherever they play. In a lot of cases they can probably do a lot more good playing somewhere other than BYU. Besides, it only mentioned that the older son was recruited by BYU and it doesn't say how heavily recruited.

This should be a great game. Go Cougars!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

I don't think you guys are taking into account all the positives a home state school can offer, especially when it is a top program. The idea that overall, Rocky's BYU experience may not have been spectacular is possible, but certainly not the only possibility.

I say, it is what it is, and requires nothing more than surface reading.

Highland, UT

Good grief, Beigle is obviously a fan of wisconsin because he has sons playing there and lives there, he is obviously a fan of BYU because he and his brother played there and have religious ties to it.

BYU heavily recruited the older son and lightly recruited, and did not offer, the younger son.

Why do any of you have to read any more into it than that?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Not a surprise someone would pick a true prestigious national power Wisconsin over a regional program whose national attention is limited to fellow church members and that hasn't ever sniffed BCS glory.

Cheyenne, WY

It is obvious that no one knows why these boys chose Wisconsin
Perhaps they wanted to stay close to family.
BYU's recruiting class always contain players who chose BYU over Power Conference schools.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Not a surprise someone would pick a true prestigious national power Wisconsin over a regional program whose national attention is limited...
I did not read that Utah recruited the kids...

Interesting point Chris, but aren't you supposed to be bashing BYU, not the U?

Cheyenne, WY

I think that this Saturdays game will be fun and competitive, but I think Wisconsin wins it.
Hey Chris B
Still waiting for the youtube fight song.
it was marked down.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah and Wisconsin are similar programs, both have enjoyed multiple top 10 seasons and BCS glory in the last decade.

When its a matchup of a program that has enjoyed BCS glory and top 10 seasons lately against a team that has never enjoyed BCS glory and hasn't had a single top 10 season in many years, pick the prestigious BCS program who has enjoyed BCS glory and top 10 seasons lately.

Wisconsin 37
byu 17

Go Badgers!

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

"Utah and Wisconsin are similar programs,..."

Not even close.

Wisconsin has been successfully competing in a big boy conference for decades.
Utah has proven that they don't belong in a big boy conference - 8-15 in the PAC.

Saratoga Springs, UT

For ChrisB and his stats, be done already. Judge a program not the lame BCS. Utah 2013, Maybe 5-7 this year, maybe.

BYU Football 1922 - Utah Football 1892, 30 years before BYU
BYU 4 top 10s - Utah 3 - Edge BYU
BYU 18 Top 25s, recent 2011 - Utah 5, recent 2010 - Edge BYU
BYU 4 top 20 BCS rankings - Utah 3 - Edge BYU
23 Conf titles, all 23 since 1964 - Utah 24, 6 in the WAC or MWC since 1964 - Edge BYU
31 Bowls - 13 For Utah - Edge BYU
0 BCS Bowls - Utah 2 - Edge Utah
13 Bowl wins - 13 for Utah - Push
1 National Ship's - Utah None - Edge BYU
8 Hesiman Trophy Finalist - Utah 2 - Edge BYU
1 Heisman Trophy - Utah 0 - Edge BYU
As of 2008 146 BYU players in NFL, 48 played in Superbowls, 1 two time SB winner, 1 SB MVP - Utah 27 NFL, 5 played in SBs, 3 SB winners, 1 two time - Edge BYU
4 Davey O'Brien award winners - Edge BYU
7 Sammy Baugh award winners - Edge BYU
1 Doak Walker Award and Jim Brown Trophy - Edge BYU
2 Outland Trophy Winners - Edge BYU
1 Maxwell Award Winner - Edge BYU

Cheyenne, WY

Here is the title of an article in Wisconsin
"The Voice: They're not Big Ten, but BYU is big time"
Have a great day.

Salt Lake City, UT

"Utah and Wisconsin are similar programs,..."

True they both are red and white.... Umm... that is where the similarity ends.

Wisconsin actually competes in and occasionally wins their BCS conference.

Wisconsin and BYU both have a national championship and a Heisman Trophy winner.

Nice to see to nationally prominent football programs facing off on Saturday.

No wonder it is the main game on ESPN on Saturday.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT


And what is byu's record against the team that doesn't belong in the Pac12, per you?


Lindon, UT

Good for the Biegel boys! I'm sure they have a positive impact on that team & it will be a fun game for their dad too.
If BYU stands a chance in this game, they need to spread the defense by getting as many people/positions involved in the offense, especially TE's and short to mid-range passes. That will keep their stout D honest for the run. We'll really miss JD on punts and in the slot. I'm think Ridley will be covering punts-- and hopefully they have to punt often. On defense, we should all be hoping their star receiver isn't quite ready to return so it turns them almost exclusively to the run. While they have a big O line, we can give them more than they're used to on run D. Can't wait for this game. Go Coug's!

Stop The Nonsense
El Paso, TX

Man, I can't wait for Saturday! Should be a great game, and I'm really hoping BYU pulls off the upset. Coach Anderson is a class act and I will root for Wisconsin (after Saturday) to do well the rest of the season. Same goes for the Biegel boys. :)

Arlington, VA

Chris B

Unlike U, BYU has been so successful in so many other achievements, that BYU doesn't have to gauge the success of its entire program on the results of a yearly head-to-head matchup with our little brothers on the hill.

Of course, when you're satisfied with simply beating BYU, having a pathetic record of only FIVE lifetime AP Top 25 finishes really doesn't matter.

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