so get them both...maybe something good comes of it.
Jazz sure shot it great from outside against Nets tonight, didn't they.
Also had 21 to's. But Tinsley and Lucas must be better than Fredette.
Sure they are.
I personally think Jimmer would be needed to replace the aging Steve Nash, right
here in L.A.He would be a great fit, despite his shortcomings on defense.
Mr. Rock You Have a lot of faith in a player who hasn't played much yet.
A lot of if's and's and but's. You could be right and you could
be wrong -- or some where in between.
Saw him play saturday afternoon. While in his first games as a college player,
he had a rough start in the first half, making some big mistakes. All to be
expected given that everyone on the floor was better than anyone he had played
against in high school. But after K set him down early in the second half, he
settled down, and had a very solid final 10 minutes, playing much like he was
expected to.From a stats standpoint, he wasn't a leader in any
category. But that shouldn't surprise anyone. He is playing for Duke, and
there are no mediocre players on a Duke team. So the bar has been set high. We
will see how the season shapes up.... but as of today, talking of him being one
and done see a bit premature. He is good, great kid at church, but he has more
learning to do. How much he can mature as a player under one of the better
coaches out there is yet to be determined. He isn't the answer
to the Jazz's problems. At least not yet.
Are you hinting that the Jazz will finish with the worst record in the NBA this
If you are talking about unproven college kids being the future, Andrew Wiggins
seems to be the better topic. I'm sure Jabari Parker will be great. But,
right now, it is Wiggins - #1 and then the rest.
I'm not sure how you "focus" on drafting a particular player when
you still have nearly 80 games to play and the playoffs to watch. We have no
idea where the Jazz two 1st round picks will land. We also
haven't seen Parker play against top college competition yet. Despite SI
gushing over him, shouldn't we want to see some, you know, actual results
before we start declaring him a top three pick? If you are thinking "Yeah,
but he has such potential and an NBA body, even if his stats as a freshman
don't blow you away," I have a two-word answer: Marvin Williams.
Although no one wants the Jazz to lose, it is tempting to consider the prospect
of having Jabari Parker on the team. The likelihood scenario that might occur is
that Gordon Hayward floats away in the prospect of free agency with Parker
filling in the space he leaves behind. We could even see a trade occur in which
Hayward is traded to a team for their unconditional first round pick that may
end up as a top two pick. Whatever happens, Parker would fit in well among our
bigs on the Jazz. All of this is speculation, we will have to see what Dennis
Lindsey will do.
I'm not sure why they can't have both. I'm also not sure why
Tinsley and Lucas are seen as better choices over Jimmer. Besides if you're
going to lose a bunch of games, why not at least sell tickets to watch Jimmer
shoot the lights out? Also, Jimmer's shooting creates spacing--which
creates opportunities inside for the rest of the team. Tinsley and Lucas can
stand outside the 3 point line, but that doesn't mean anybody is going to
guard them. Especially since they are much of a threat inside the 3 point line.
Well, a couple of you are half right. Tinsley might actually worse than he was
when he was here before (in terms of shooting if thats possible) and Lucas is
terrible.Our back court is a disaster of epic proportions.That being said Jimmer is a worse defender than both of our guys. Yes he is.
Sure he could fill it up occasionally but his defense is so bad it is not even
debatable.The reality is that swapping/interchanging these three
around is like re-arranging deck chairs on the titanic.We better
sincerely hope Trey Burke is something because as it stands we have absolutely
nothing at PG and that is the same thing we would have if we acquired Jimmer.
He was great and fun to watch in college but he is a two guard in a PG body that
can't defend and that simply doesn't work in todays NBA with all the
long athletes he would have to play against.Wow our PG situation is
bad. Did I already mention that?As far as Parker is concerned of
course he is unproven but athletic talent provides the best odds of success
plain and simple.
Losing Bradley hurt BYU, a lot. But he HAD to leave when he did, with the
changes to rookie contracts the next year he would have lost a ton of money,
there was no way he could stick around at BYU any longer.
People are acting like Tinsley and Lucas are locked down defenders and that
Coach Corbin actually cares about defense.Newsflash Even if Tinsley
and Lucas are better defenders than Jimmer and that's a huge if. Corbin
(The same coach who rolled out a starting lineup with Jefferson, the two
Williams and Randy Foye last year) has doesn't give a hoot about
defense.The Jazz really need a shooting point guard right now and
Jimmer would be an easy grab.
According to the lottery, even if the Jazz finish 0-82 which is still
technically possible, they could still draft 4th. The best players could already
be gone. Foye from Villanova was very good at something like 46% for his career
3s. The youth movement removed him. Nevertheless if not Jimmer, then who? They
need a three shooter. Even in 4 games, Hayward could not hit under pressure at
the end at least twice. Thank the good higher power. The Jazz are starting to
hit free throws. They were 77% for the last 2 games. Progress takes time and the
Jazz appear to have plenty of that.
Good article but let us see how the season turns out. I would go with both
players. One a guard, the other a forward. The thing about Jimmer is he can be
had for cheap. Come Dec 15th newly signed players can be included in a trade.
And since Jimmer will be nothing more than a role player his future contracts
will be pretty low. I still think he could be the dagger shot player that is
needed on every team. And at not much risk..
Jimmer will end up with the Celtics somehow.
Wiggins or Parker is the goal for the season. Winning takes a backseat. According to some peoples logic, Jabari can sell tickets just as easily
as Jimmer can because he is LDS also.
"According to the lottery, even if the Jazz finish 0-82 which is still
technically possible, they could still draft 4th." - JBQWhat you
say is true; however, this draft (unlike the past few) is going to be LOADED
with a lot of good to great players. Jazz fans need to be remember that John
Stockton was drafted at 16 and Karl Malone at 13. So, if Lindsey and Jazz
management do their homework, they should still be able to pick up a solid
player and maybe two (if they're lucky) no matter where they pick.I distinctly remember some fans booing when the Jazz selected Stockton at
13.While I believe a Jabari Parker or Andrew Wiggins would be a
great draft pick, there will other picks, later than the top five, who will turn
into NBA All-Stars from the 2014 draft.
I like Jimmer and think that he could potentially become a great role player in
this league. But when he comes to town, it polarizes the crowd. Bottom line,
Jabari Parker is the future. He has potential to be an LDS superstar of elite
talent. Jazz brass would be wise to do everything possible to get him opposite
Gordon Hayward on the wing.
I have long held the belief that the main problem with the Jazz team is that
they are too average. Small market teams must be horrible (as in dead last or
next to it) from time to time. The Jazz are a small market team that
overachieves year after year meaning that they never get a star. While the Jazz
may not be able keep those stars, but they can keep them for 5 years. That
should make a difference. Then, they tank again for a few years and back at it.
Much better cycle. Of course, Jazz fan probably can't stomach that, but it
has to happen. Hopefully, the 0-4 start is just what the Doctor ordered.
Eagles63, You beat me to the punch regarding the realities of small market teams
and all-stars. However, I'm not quite as optimistic that 5 years is enough
time to get it done...especially if the future all star comes to the NBA with
only one year of college experience. Just about the time things
start looking like they will come together, the larger markets' incentives
call the great players away. Stockton and Malone were the exception, and may be
our once in a lifetime experience. Jazz fans may have seen the best that they
are going to see.
I have always been amazed that Utah sports fans always live by "what
ifs." They try to imagine themselves into winning scenario's and
imagine that they are good rather then letting the facts speak for themselves.
Great sports franchises, college or professional, even in down years, don't
try to imagine their way into greatness.
Parker over Wiggins any day.
Keep dreaming. Jazz need more than Parker. Boston a loosing team is currently
beating them easily.
After watching the Jazz lose in Boston and going 0-5 to start the season, how
would trading for Jimmer to allow him to show his wares in Utah be a bad thing?
Might be the first time a losing season makes a profit for an NBA team. Think
of the marketing, think of the logo sales, think of people actually wanting to
attend a game to see what Jimmer can do? After 3 years languishing in SacTown,
its time that Jimmer gets serious minutes with a team who wants him. Let's
see if all the naysayers are right or wrong!! Worst case, if the experiment
fails, he goes to unrestricted free agency anyway! Free Jimmer!
Dukies!!! I'ld rather watch my Dukies than the Jazz any day
Here is the scary situation the Jazz face. Great NBA players do not like Utah.
If the Jazz could land 2 talented LDS kids then why not. The chances of Jabari
wanting to stay in Utah are much more than Hayward wanting to stay in Utah.
Jazz should go after both players and see what happens. I still believe
although a defensive liability Jimmer has been very limited by the Kings and
would be a solid backup in a better situation. I don't think he is going
to be great but I don't think Trey Burks is going to be great either. He
shot what in summer league, 25%. Come on it's summer league. Find the
Bring back Jerry Sloan as Jazz head coach