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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 5 2013 12:15 p.m. MST

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

There is nothing inherently wrong with pornography and in moderation is perfectly fine. It does not cause everyone to be an addict.

Isn't it also interesting that many here in Utah believe they and they only can determine what is pornography and what isn't. Did you know that in many parts of the world, the way women dress in local church meetinghouses would be considered very pornographic by showing bare arms and legs.

Point is, no individual group or religion can define something nor should they be able to tell others what is right/wrong for them.

Alterego
Harrisville, UT

You wouldn't feel that way if you were married or had a daughter.

I'm trying to imagine how you would rationalize your opinion to your priest/bishop, your son/daughter/spouse and I honestly can't imagine the dialogue.

Alterego
Harrisville, UT

Is it intellectually dishonest to suggest "bare arms and legs" in everyday dress is what this young man and others with addictions view online? Yes. It is.

twinb
Nashville, TN

To Chris B, sorry, but I beg to differ, there is definitely something inherently wrong with pornography! Just like with drugs/alcohol, some seem okay to use them in moderation, but many cannot. It's wrong simply because it's demeaning to both women and men AND shows such skewed ideas of what human sexual intimacy is truly all about. This has NOTHING to do with religion, nor Utah. It's YOUR perception Utahans believe only they can determine such things... THAT is not fact based. In other parts of the world and even in this country, many feel the same as Utahans. I don't live in Utah, and I have lived in a number of various places/states, so I am aware of how others feel. Seems to me (just as with any who use substances that are harmful) use the excuse you did because they themselves are 'using'. I'm no prude, and yes, the human body is beautiful, but porn is not!

So, in essence, by your last statement, there is no moral code, only what we individually think is right/wrong... that's very flawed. If that was the case, then anything goes! Seriously!

ipr
Spanish Fork, UT

I disagree with you, Chris. We need to look at pornography from our societal point of view and not from a society at some remote location. In our society the label XXX is a clear indicator, however pornography is becoming more and more accepted as "normal" in our present-day society. I consider many R-rate movies pornography, and for that reason I also do not subscribe to movie channels. Our youth is especially hurt by the lowering of norms; think for instance of "sexting." The fact that pornography is fine in moderation is your point of view and does not define what is fine for a society as a whole.

1.96 Standard Deviations
OREM, UT

Chris B-

Pornography is inherently wrong. If I am not mistaken, you accept the Bible as the word of God. Take these scriptures into consideration:

Matthew 5:27-28 - "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery. But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

1 Corithians 6:9 - "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

It is obvious any form or semblance of pornography is about lust, and lusting after someone is akin to adultery according to Christ. Pornography = akin to adultery = unrighteousness. And according to Paul, the "unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

Stay away from pornography. It is not good.

perfidemintrepidus
Riverton, UT

Pornography is completely, inherently, indisputably wrong in every single way. There will always be voices of justification with every moral vice today. This is a subject that needs more attention and especially in Utah where it is believed to be most destructive to families and individuals that deal with the problem. Porn is the most insidious form of destructing a person inside out and has already poisoned many with its vicious lures. Psychological analysis shows that pornography is more potent than some of today's most potent illegal substances and incredibly addictive. The habit is debilitating to marital and other social relationships; a subject that needs to be discussed with greater emphasis going forward. Great article!

Janique
PANAMA CITY, FL

An interesting comment from BOTH of the youth featured in the article is how they suffered from depression, isolated themselves, lost motivation, lied, got poor grades, and couldn't stop. None of those are positive things which is proof enough that pornography is not good, not normal, and to be avoided. I work with an addiction/recovery group and NOT ONE of the group members has said, "I am so glad that I am hooked on pornography, it's has really benefited my life." In fact, it is quite the opposite. Lives have been destroyed. I express gratitude to this young man for speaking out. He has shown courage and maturity beyond his years. Pornography CAN be overcome and your life can get back on track. In the end...pornography may begin as a sexual attraction, but in reality it's about social interactions and learning how to fit in and make friends with others.

jeanie
orem, UT

You know, we justified smoking as a personal choice, even a sign of coolness, elegance - until we actually admitted to the consequences not only to the smoker, but to those around the smoker. Then we said no fault divorce doesn't impact kids negatively and we bought into that - until we had to admitted to the damage experienced in the lives of children because it was obvious. Now it is porn. Those who justify porn as harmless are blind, and to use the excuse that no-one can define it because we all think differently is laughable.

SoCalChris
Riverside, CA

Very impressed with this young man's courage.

Mukkake
Montreal, QC, 00

[“I think we’re at the front-end of it. I think in the next five to 10 years as this rising generation moves into adolescence, I think we’re going to have an epidemic.”]

What nonsense. Kids and teens have seen internet porn since the 90s and still no 'epidemic' to be found.

Most of my friends and colleagues in their 20s and 30s have watched porn online and have good jobs and successful marriages and relationships.

The internet isn't nee anymore, internet porn certaainly isn't new, and neither is minors looking at it.

Then againt

Neanderthal
Phoenix, AZ

@Chris B:
"There's nothing inherently wrong with pornography and in moderation is perfectly fine."

How can one look into a mirror at their naked self and it's not porn.... yet, nude pics, etc., are porn?

"Isn't it also interesting that many here in Utah believe they and they only can determine what is pornography and what isn't."

I can't define or describe porn but I know it when I see it. For example some people wear skimpy swimsuits, even thongs, at the beach to swim/sunbathe. That, as it turns out, is not considered porn by alotta folks... including the wearers.

gittalopctbi
Glendale, AZ

The philosophies of Chris B and Mukkake are part of what the world accepts as the "norm" and "harmless." They couldn't be more completely wrong. It is those philosophies that have caused many people to suffer grievous lives and caused the suffering of many innocent people's lives (like their spouses and families) as a result of their addiction to pornography and all other forms of addiction. When you consider the great suffering that wives, children, parents, and siblings have gone through because of those addictions, to hear statements such as those from Chris B. and Mukkake are highly offensive.

And yes, Chris B., I believe and will state that absolutely and unequivocally, a religion can and should define morality and should be able to tell others what is right and what is wrong. It is up to the individual to decide whether to accept that, naturally. But I reject your relative moralism and declare that that is part of the huge problems we face in society today.

Neanderthal
Phoenix, AZ

@twinb:
"...sorry, but I beg to differ, there is definitely something inherently wrong with pornography!"

As long as the viewer doesn't 'lust' it can't be porn. It seems lusting changes the definition. For example, the nude statue of David in a Rome museum is not porn because folks go there to view artists' work. There's no lust or reason for lust exhibited there.

@BarkforSark:
"Pornography provides a euphoria, it provides a high..."

So does a cold can of Pepsi. So, what's wrong with euphoria or a high?

"Satan knows what young men get a rise out of..."

I'm not sure I completely understand your point.

Gwenevere
Idaho Falls, ID

This is also in response to Chris B.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but before you spout off about it, you should really take a look at the facts. Pornography is MORE addictive than any drug or other substance you can put inside your body. It has been medically & psychologically proven. Once the connections in the brain are made they cannot be severed.
Aside from a religious standpoint, thinking that it's okay in moderation is ludicrous.
That's like saying moderate heroin, meth, or bath salt use is okay & won't cause an addiction.
You don't just hurt yourself, you hurt everyone you have contact with. I, unfortunately, speak from experience with my ex, from working with the Addiction Recovery Program & from many friends who have or are going through the same thing - many of which have been witness to generations of pornography abuse. The ripple effect of hurt is immense. The adversary would love nothing better, than for you to continue to think it's okay. Heck, you're a man, you can totally stop anytime, right? You know better than all of the experts that say differently, right?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

1.96 Standard deviation,

If you follow every word of the bible today and believe God wants us to do exactly word for word what the bible says then you have a point.

But I'm guessing even you admit you only follow certain things of the bible and admit I can easily find a list of things mentioned in the bible that you wouldn't agree with today?

So really your use of the bible is kind of weak isn't it? Since you don't really believe/follow every single thing the bible says.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Contrarius" not everybody that tries drugs or alcohol becomes an addict either, but we have appropriate restrictions on their use because of the high percentage that will become addicted if they use them.

Read the story "New UK study finds porn affects brain like drugs, alcohol" in the DN. The researchers in the UK find that porn has similar affects to drugs an alcohol. Do you think that teens have the mental capacity to not become addicted to porn since it affects the brain and the pleasure centers?

Do you think that it is a good thing to have society look at porn as a natural thing, and have to deal with the consequences that follow it? How many lives have been altered due to alcohol? Should we scew up just as many lives with porn?

BKB
Chantilly/USA, 00

This article and the ABC news program did and excellent job of pointing out the consequences of pornography viewing. Not only does it lead to depression. self-isolation, dishonesty and lack of ambition, it always results in an impaired ability to love others, lowered capacity to develop and maintain relationships with members of the opposite sex and a drop in self-esteem.

The good news is that former porn users get back their ability to love and develop relationships. They also see in increase in self-esteem and increased overall happiness. 12-step programs can be very useful in helping viewer stop but they tend to have a high relapse rate. Alternative programs based upon fundamental truths, such as Power Over Pornography, can also work and often have a much lower relapse rate.

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