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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 6 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Many Utah Democrats are anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. They still tend to lose.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

It is all about possessing the same values as their electorate and right now the national party is so different that the local party doesn't stand a chance. As long as Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi run the national party statewide democrats are probably just a figment of our imagination.

junkgeek
Agua Dulce, TX

Why bother reaching out to the tea party, which is self-immolating. At some point, if it wants to be politically relevant on a national stage, Utah will have to change.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Until the Democratic party stops fully supporting every extreme left wing agenda item that comes down the pipe, it will always be at odds with the majority of Utah voters.

The media loves to blast the tea party and other conservative groups by saying how "far to the right" that some elements of the GOP are trying to pull the party. But they also give a complete pass to every extremist left wing group that is pulling the Democratic party farther and farther left.

All the major democratic leaders these days (Obama, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, etc,) are extreme left wing ideologues yet the media tries to portray them as some kind of moderates.

Utah voters know that even moderate Democrats like Jim Matheson will vote the majority of the time along party lines when their vote really counts. They will go against their party and side with their constituents only when they know that it doesn't matter. That way they can use those votes to show how moderate they are in the next election.

Sal
Provo, UT

I always find myself on the opposite side of the Democrats. They will not defend the unborn. They will not defend traditional marriage. They will not live within their means. They believe the answer to everything is to raise taxes. They want to control my healthcare options. They will not work with Republicans. Not one, of the more than 22 amendments to the ACA, proposed by Republicans was accepted by Democrats, not one. They lie to get their bills passed (you can keep your insurance and doctors). They support weird laws that would allow boys to use girls' restrooms and girls to use boys' restrooms. How does this make our girls safe from any sexual predator claiming to be what he is not?

Democrats in Utah have a huge hurdle to overcome to get my vote.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Obama and Clinton are "extreme left-wing ideologues"?

Mark l
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Yes Obama and Clinton are extreme left-wing ideologues. They know that they can't get their entire left wing agenda passed all at once, so they are content to get their in stages. Obamacare is just a step towards single payer.

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

Sorry to say I disagree with Richard on this one. As long as most Utahns think GOP stands for God's Only Party, they will continue to be uninformed on the issues and simply vote straight-ticket "R" because it's the "R"ighteous thing to do.

And JoeC2, you've been watching too much Faux News and listening to too much echo-chamber music on the radio.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

All we have to do is wait 86 years.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

@joecap2

Thanks for the rush, fox news entertainment, drudge update!

Especially...

"...Utah voters know that even moderate Democrats like Jim Matheson will vote the majority of the time along party lines when their vote really counts. They will go against their party and side with their constituents only when they know that it doesn't matter. That way they can use those votes to show how moderate they are in the next election...".

republicans never work this gambit?

dalefarr
South Jordan, Utah

As long as the LDS first presidency and the Council of the 12 remain almost entirely republican, most LDS voters will vote republican like they do now.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

There You Go Again: Of course Republicans from states with largely liberal constituents do the same thing. I never said they didn't.

Kent C. Deforrest, et al.: I am conservative and I support government policies and officials that are more closely aligned with my personal beliefs. I have educated myself on the issues by studying, listening to a variety of sources, and from personal experience. I don't vote or think a certain way just because of something I heard on Fox News or because LDS leaders tend to lean republican. I am sick of insinuations like yours that every conservative is a stupid drone that is easily duped by talk radio.

Disagree if you like. Put forth valid arguments that support your cause. But quit trying to marginalize the opposition with such destructive rhetoric.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

No. No. No. It will do no good for the democrats to transform themselves into republicans.

The people of Utah and America need leaders who are facing forward to the future and not those who are living in the past. The people have been moved into the future by the technology, the creativity and pure brain power of human kind; it’s time that the systems of civilization catch up.

Those of desirable and comfortable positions in our society would like to keep things just as they are. They would be even happier if we would return to the rule of lords and ladies, kings and subjects and such classifications. We cannot allow that to happen. Republicans, Tea Party and conservatives are their henchmen.

The leaders needed must be willing to change the rules and the values to fit the world now and in the future. A new way of delivering the benefits of civilization and society to its members must be created to replace the slavery systems of the past. Physical and even mental labors are no longer proper measurements of a persons worth and should be eliminated from the equation.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Junkgeek
Nowhere did the article talk about reaching out to the tea party. Why are you making stuff up?

GZE,
Yes, BO is an extreme left-wing ideologue. Guess you missed where he was consistently rate THE most liberal senator when he occupied that office.

Kent,
How mistaken you are. Most Utahans view the GOP as the only viable alternative to the dems. THAT is why they garner so much support, because dem policies and agendas are so anathema to Utahans.

There you go again,
Cannot argue the statement, so you attack a news channel that has editorial opinions with which you disagree. SUCH a compelling argument! WOW, you’ve won me over.

JoeC2,
Don’t hold your breath.

E Sam
Provo, UT

The Red Sox won, in part, by growing out their beards. Don't see that working in Utah.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

When Utah gets more welfare recipients, then the Democrats will win elections. Obamacare insurance subsides will help.

One of a Few
Layton, UT

Once gay marriage is not issue - within the next 5 years, all the R's will have is abortion. With access to B control under ACA, abortion should become less of an issue. Then when the world doesn't implode within the next 10 years and Generation Xers start to retire and realize SS and Medicare are kind nice to have, the country and probably UT will start to look fondly at the Democratic party. Mix in new Hispanic citizens under immigration reform and one can almost imagine demise of the conservative Republican party as it is currently known.

PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

For the Democrats to win in Utah, they usually have to pretend that they aren't who they are. They have tried this in recent elections, but lots of people aren't buying it.

louie
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I think a better analogy would be "democrats have a chance of winning in Utah like the Cubs have of winning the World Series"...not going to happen soon.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Mountanman
"When Utah gets more welfare recipients, then the Democrats will win elections"

The state with the highest percentage of people not paying any income taxes is Mississippi, not exactly a liberal stronghold... in fact Romney won 8 out of 10 states with the highest percentages of their people not paying income taxes (Obama won Florida and New Mexico, the ones that Romney won were Idaho and southern states). So yeah... funny joke, but it's not based on you know... facts.

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