Published: Tuesday, Nov. 5 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
"Opposition in our government is good because it checks the power."Legitimate, Opposing viewpoints are healthy.But, Sam, that
is not what we have today for the most part. We have opposition for the
sake of opposition. And it happens in any and every political situation.Our countries leaders are more intent on opposing every idea from the
other side than they are to look for good solutions and ideas.And,
we follow along like sheep. We actually now WANT our politicians to be that
way. We are that way. No idea from the other side is good. The
intensity of the partisan support is mind boggling. On both the left and the
right.We put party over country. And we have been convinced that it is
Patriotism.We need to wake up people. And we better wake up
Opposition in sticking to your principles is one thing.However,
shutting down the government and waving the Confederate flag because you
don't have enough votes to overturn a law is something completely
different. Remember now, Mitch McConnell himself stated that his job was to make
Obama a one-term President. Gee, I thought it was to represent
Americans and to help our country progress?
If the GOP was merely sticking to their principles then they'd be the #1
fans of Obamacare. Remember, Obama didn't create Obamacare, the
Republicans did. Obama wanted a single payer system.
It is one thing to have an opposition party, it is a radical thing to oppose
government by trying to stop it from functioning to gain minority advantage or
for political points. The tea party was taught a lesson about this recently.
Opposition in our government is good because it checks the power. If we
didn’t have opposition, new laws could be made almost overnight,
unchallenged and unchecked.======== I hope he then
appreciates those of us who oppose Republicans in Utah for the exact same
So when we have a Republican President and a Democratic Congress resisting his
will, we will remember that opposition is good then as well, true?
There is a difference between screaming "NO!" to everything the other
party does, and offering workable counterproposals. The only thing
the GOP offers our country is irrational and belligerent opposition to President
Obama. Period. Ask Republicans how they would go about fixing our
dysfunctional healthcare financing system, or our crumbling infrastructure, our
creaking economy, or our wildly unfair tax policies, and you'll only hear
vague and contradictory word salad.
I agree that opposition is good. But the opposition we have today goes beyond
anything we have seen in this country since the Civil War. They filibuster even
people they approve of, for the simple reason that, without leadership, federal
departments can't function. If they don't function, it makes the
president look bad.They threaten to send the country into default
and wreck the world economy if they can't have their way. Yet the same
people who say they revere the constitution, refuse to believe what a truly
radical and unconstitutional idea this is.
It was Obama who said he will not negotiate! Obama will not tolerate ANY
opposition. Some honest questions; did Obama shut down the government in a
temper tantrum rant? Will Obama compromise? Will Obama lead this nation or will
he have more temper tantrums? Before you tell me the GOP house would not fund
the government, remember that Obama has executive privilege and all he had to do
was sign an emergency funding mandate but he didn't! Why? So he could blame
it on the GOP as he always has!
@Mountanman: Republicans did not want President Obama to negotiate, they wanted
him to submit to extortion. Had the President signed an emergency funding
mandate, as you suggest, you GOP buddies would have impeached him.
It's not just "the other Party" they oppose.They are now even
"opposing" and throwing other Republicans under the bus!It's
like they "oppose" just for opposition's sake.And YES,
that is extremeist.
Good letter, Sam. Opposition serves a very important purpose in our government.
Even when not victorious it brings out vital information on issues that helps
the public to better understand them just as you pointed out with the Obamacare
issue. It is unfortunate that a similar understanding was not brought out prior
to passage of the bill.You also mentioned the possibility of news
laws being made overnight without being challenged or checked. My opinion is
that has already been done far too much with Obama's Executive decrees and
orders. Other presidents have all done these things on a very limited basis but
our present president has used these methods to change far too many things
without any advice from congress. It seems to go on unchecked and unchallenged.
@ Roland. "Extortion" Really? Now opposition and open debate is called
extortion? Definition of extortion (n)ex·tor·tion[
ik stáwrsh'n ]1.obtaining something by illegal threats: the
crime of obtaining something such as money or information from somebody by using
force, threats, or other unacceptable methods.The GOP has no power
to extort anything from Obama. If you claim the GOP used extortion, what would
you call what Obama and the Democrats have done with Obamacare? I am proud of
the GOP for standing up to Obama. How dare anyone demand HE be accountable? How
Some honest questions for youDo you feel that the debt ceiling is
the proper venue to change existing laws?Would debt ceiling talks under
Bush been the proper avenue to push to end the Bush tax cuts, or stop the Iraq
war?Using the debt ceiling to change law IS like extortion. I used your definition of extortion, only omitting those things that
were not applicable.the crime of obtaining something (such as
stopping a law you don't like) from somebody by using threats, or other
"The GOP has no power to extort anything from Obama. "Probably one of the silliest comments i have seen in a long time. We can
easily see logic has exited the discussion and we are now running on pure
emotion. Claiming the House of Representatives" has no power... just not
based on anything reasonable or factual.Opposition is a good
thing... but it is only half way there..... opposition without an alternative
solution is pointless and does no one any good. A brainless person can run
around and oppose things. Opposition with an alternative proposition is the
only thing that drives true solutions.Enough with opposition....
lets see some actual leadership... and less gamesmanship.
Principled opposition is a good thing. Throwing a tantrum is less so, and
that's what we've been seeing out of the republicans.
Very good letter, with the typical litany of leftist excuse making, both for
themselves and their sad sack prez. The constitution itself is a force that
insures we have a country that is not ruled by a true democracy. It oversee
certain rights, that may be contrary to the opinion of the majority. The GOP has
not done anything unconstitutional. Whiny leftists may not like what they did,
but grow up. Cut the apron strings that attach you to your (mommy) government,
in which you have placed so much dependence. Most people in the real world
portions of the country, were completely unaffected by the government shut down.
You could have been smart enough to pull the same stunt when Bush was prez, but
you weren't. Besides, most of the country favored the war on terrorism, you
wouldn't have dared.
Once again, Mountanman cherry pecks definitions to further his agenda, and
STILL gets it wrong.ex-tor-tion Spelled [ik-stawr-shuhn] noun
1. an act or instance of extorting. 2. Law. the crime of obtaining
money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or
authority. 3. oppressive or illegal exaction, as of excessive price or
interest: the extortions of usurers. 4. anything extorted. And YES, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz and the rest used EXTORTION as a means to
get what their votes could not.BTW -- The shutdown could not
possibly be President Obama's fault.Why?Because he never even
got the bill, Let alone had a chance to VETO it.And even IF he
did veto it, Congress can always over-ride anything he VETOs....per
the Constitution.Lee and Cruz were TRAMPLING the Constitution,
What the GOP and especially the tea party do not understand is that opposition
is not an agenda for governing. Please, GOP, come up with some fresh ideas that
will not bankrupt the country or send us into immediate recession (so far you
haven't done this). The GOP has made its identity the anti-Obama party. But
what is it for? As far as I can tell, they favor a deregulated corpocracy that
will send inequality through the roof and quickly flip Mitt's infamous 47
percent into 74 percent.
The State of Utah could use some of that opposition. In spite of what Mountanman
has said, the GOP has taken opposition to a historic and unprecedented level
especially on policy they created themselves.
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