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Published: Monday, Nov. 4 2013 6:10 p.m. MST

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podunk utah
DRAPER, UT

whoops!

I still think Logan wins this one

HTSJCCAFALG
Richfield, UT

It should not be interpreted that because "two referees threw" their flag on the play that they both saw it.

It is obvious and known that ref's throw their flag when they see their buddy throw one. THAT way it appears if they both saw it. Watch closely the next time you see any game and your see "bang-bang" flags ALL the time!!! It is the 'official' unofficial way to coaches and fans from thinking only one saw it.

El Chango Supremo
Rexburg, ID

I want to see footage of the "kick" before I form an opinion.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Good sportsmanship and following the rules is more important than playing a game.
This kid can still go to college, still play sports, and still have a great life without play in in one game.

Heck, he could even want to be a referee in the future just to be sure that every call is 100% accurate and never worthy of being challenged.

Would everyone be this concerned if the guy who drew the two simultaneous flags was a little known lineman on a losing team not in the playoffs?

bradleyc
Layton, UT

I saw the video... Slowed it down. The kid did nothing wrong.

WestFBking
Salt Lake City, UT

Bottom line, is the young man physically okay? How severe is his knee injury?

Big Papi
South Jordan, 00

Either the article didn't do enough to share the officials' side, or the officials didn't feel like they needed to justify anything... Which I think is their biggest problem. Everyone that saw the video commented that it didn't look bad. We've all seen athletes throw punches or cheap shots and this obviously wasn't one of those situations, and yet the officials still hide behind their rigid interpretation of a rule that clearly wasn't violated with intent. If they can't distinguish a difference between someone actually throwing a punch/kick with intent and someone simply kicking out a leg then how can we trust them to make any sound judgment calls? The officials are obviously being stubborn and feel like they are bigger than the game. It's sad that we allow this to happen. It's even more sad that the presiding officials act like they're disappointed for the player and are helpless to do anything about it when clearly they have the ability to make things right.

Cache Valley1
Logan, UT

It's interesting that coaches have to defer all medical situations to the medical trainers and doctors. Especially now with concussions where the uhsaa even forces all football coaches to watch a video about concussions and then the uhsaa can just dismiss medical advice at will in a case like this. Not only dismiss the advice but question it. If a coach did that they would be fired and potentially sued. The uhsaa is above policy and law.

Proud to be American
West Jordan, UT

The UHSAA is a complete joke! This is ridiculous, why have the officials not stepped up after watching the film and admitted to over reaction on this play? I watched it several times on You Tube, this kid should NOT be suspended and should NOT have been ejected. Period.

slcftball
Salt Lake City, UT

Told you so.

Feel bad, but after he got his first one, the refs may have been watching for it.

I still think Logan wins-barely.

IRS Agent
PROVO, UT

Based on the severity of the injury described by the medical professional, it sounds like he should probably sit out a game so as not to risk further injury. I can't imagine a coach with so much concern over his player being hurt would jeopardize his well being by subjecting him to further injury. Sounds like the decision made by the officials is immaterial. The coach would obviously put the kid's safety first anyway.

CincyRed13
SLC, UT

Without Chase Nelson, Logan will lose this game. Olympus is a very underrated and will surprise a lot of people this Friday.

slcftball
Salt Lake City, UT

Interesting comment up in Logan....

" This is the same Dr. Goble who is a family friend of the Nelson's and wrote an e-mail back in 2008 criticizing USU for the events behind Riley Nelson leaving USU to go to BYU (It was all USU's fault and not Riley's).

If I was the UHSAA I wouldn't listen to the comments from the Nelson's family friend either. Sounds like these Nelson boys like to make stupid decisions and then have daddy and his friends defend them. Take some responsibility for your actions."

KimmyP
Granstville, UT

Here's the irony of the entire situation; the coach uses the doctor's report to show the player's knee is injured and thusly should not be suspended as the action was an involuntary reaction to injury. They even go on the detail the extent of the injury. However, if the ruling had been reversed, all thought or concern of the injury would be thrown out the window and the kid would be playing in the game. So, which is it, the kid actually hurt his knee quite badly, or he actually kicked at the other player because the knee isn't hurt too severely?

You can't have it both ways. The coach and doctor's motives need to be reviewed, what they seem to be saying is: "the knee is injured, so let him play".

Cache Valley1
Logan, UT

If anybody has ever played a sport in their life they would understand that injuries happen all of the time in contact sports like football and basketball. Very few of the injuries are severe enough to pull someone from a game. We aren't talking about soccer here! Karl Malone and John Stockton were great examples of playing through pain and minor injuries. Just because an athlete has a minor sprain, tear, contusion, etc. doesn't mean they are ultimately injured enough to pull themselves from a game. Maybe they are and maybe they aren't. Doctors and trainers should determine that and not fans, haters, or even the UHSAA.

wiseacre
Salt Lake City, UT

@Kimmy P - - That is spot on! That brings into question of how much integrity does the Logan coaching staff have? If you look at twitter, their coaches are going on such a rant about this that their integrity and respect that everyone has talked about them having is waning.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Good call. Good decision.

Old ball coach
Sandy, UT

Good for the UHSAA by standing by the ref's decision....sorry the player, not LOGAN. Logan will still go out and play this Friday, and has a good shot of winning a game without its start.

Nelson I feel bad for, but at the same time, this is all about life lessons and he will learn from it, and be a better adult from it. The rules reply to all, he was flagged earlier in the game, and should have known better not to react. I know the ref's were watching him the rest of the night after the first. Favero was also told if he does it again he will be out by the ref's, so it should not be a surprise.

Logan still wins...its just going to be a closer game than with Nelson.

chuvak21
LOGAN, UT

The coach and doctors don't tell you that he is hurt until he is cleared, then when the UHSAA clears him to play his MRI miraculously comes back negative and he is good to go.

pleblian
salt lake city, utah

Old Ball Coach,

I think Nelson and his team will learn a lesson from this. Far from the one you wish. Spin it how you want, but both calls were doubtful, and the second has been impeached by solid evidence of an alternative cause.

No appeal of an ejection is a nonsensical rule. I think every ejection should be reviewed by USHAA for mitigating or aggravating circumstances which should diminish or extend the penalty. It is not the case here, but sometimes refs might be human.

Unfortunately, Olympus gets to prove nothing by playing Logan without 80% of Logan's offensive production on the field. Nelson is that good-check the record books, survey the number of haters/critics. It is a trap game for Olympus. If they win, well, it really just means they beat a hobbled horse in a race; if they lose they will be embarrassed.

I give Olympus more credit that some of these others. They should beat a quarterback-less Logan.

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