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  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Nov. 7, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    @2BCSWINS
    Tators is right. BYU is playing two well respected National Programs on National TV as in NBC and ESPN that is a huge step up from the Pac-12 network.
    Although Oregon Utah may be on Fox Sports 1 because it is Oregon.
    Wisconsin was jobbed at ASU. The new rule in CFB says a team can clock it with 8 seconds left the refs did not let them clock it. They may have missed the FG though.
    So that ref job caused Wisconsin not to have as high of ranking as ASU.
    Oregon is indeed a great team. The game my guess will not be repectable but I could be wrong. Many sites and articles state that BYU could finish in the top 15.
    And He is also right in saying the BYU tv coverage only belongs to a few programs in the nation.
    And the experts do say BYU has a BCS chance.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    @Tators..."And lastly, as BeSmart pointed out, BYU will be playing 2 nationally ranked and nationally known teams this month... both games with national tv coverage. The percentage of college teams doing that this year is actually very small."

    Really? Utah has already played a top 5 team and they play 2 teams this month who are both ranked higher than wisconsin and notre dame.

    Y fan's crack me up as I've posted many times same story same song and dance.

    Jan - Aug "we have the greatest team on earth best coach, heisman QB, will be in BCS bowl or nat title this year"
    September- Y fans dissapear to tulsa for awhile
    October - first of November- Back to "we are going to BCS we are definitley better than the teams that beat us they are just lucky they don't play us now"
    November 10th- Y fans back in hibernation till Idaho St comes to town

    LOL the funniest thing I have read all year is Y fan's thinking they have even a small chance to go to a BCS bowl. Only one team in this state has accomplished that and done it twice!

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 5, 2013 9:35 p.m.

    AZUTE1 is on this trip again? Dude, that game was ages ago. Can't you let it go? It's over! Time to move on, little buddy.

    I mean, can't you at least wax nostalgic on the Standford game? That at least was more recent.

    Just more proof that BYU is everything to some Ute "fans."

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 5, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    @AZUTE1

    You keep telling yourself that Utah thoroughly dominated BYU. If 2 more yards per pass play and perceived home-cooked reffing make that idea work for you, and that's what it takes to sooth the teased and tormented heart of a Ute fan repeatedly betrayed by his favorite team, then you keep on believing it and hold tight. Sorry I disrupted the pleasant mirage.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 5, 2013 2:34 p.m.

    "Uteology

    East Salt Lake City, Utah

    CougFaninTX
    Frisco, TX

    mn_online - "Any hope BYU had for a BCS bowl vanished when the clock hit triple zeros in Charlottesville against a team that has since been proven to be really bad."

    That didn't stop Stanford from being in the discussion for a BCS.

    -----------

    That's because they play a real schedule."

    No. 21 isn't a real schedule? It's better than most BCS AQ conference team's schedules. Just further magnifies what a joke the NCAAF postseason is.

  • MrPlate Lindon, UT
    Nov. 5, 2013 1:13 p.m.

    @AZUTE1 - so, now it was refs fault the normal statistics used to determine statistical superiority went in BYU's favor? I thought blaming the refs was supposed to be in the BYU fans' wheelhouse. 1 of 14 in 3rd down conversions means that proportionally, in order to reach the 5 such conversions BYU made in 28 attempts, it would have taken the Utes 70 such 3rd down attempts. But, since the Utes had 2 more yards per pass, that means they totally dominated BYU? Typical Ute logic.

    Ute fans like you should recognize a hard-fought, close victory when you see one. Instead, you cherry-pick the stats that make it look lopsided and then claim a dominating beatdown. Which, of course, reduces your credibility significantly and makes you look like a homer. Even the stats I cited, which very obviously are the ones they show in game summaries, admittedly don't show a dominance of the game. Just that BYU won the non-scoring statistical game by about as much as Utah won the more important statistic of final score. Anyone who argues that either team dominated the other is a joke amid objective analysis.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 5, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    @dsb--

    byu ran 27 more total plays, 13 more passing/14 more rushing, in order to accumulate an utterly meaningless extra 41 total yards.

    What's meaningful is The U avg 7.8/pass to byu 5.4 [both avg 3.9/rush] and the fact TW threw for 2 TDs/0 INTs while TH threw for 0 TDs/1 INT.

    This all ties directly into the most glaring disparity between the two and that's what The U did upon reaching the redzone and what byu didn't do once there, as well as missing a chip-shot FG.

    And again, as I stated in my previous comment above, byu's sole TD should never have occurred, in the first place. Not even the home-cooking by the refs could change the fact that we totally/unequivocally controlled this game throughout, from start-to-finish, never trailing, whatsoever.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 5, 2013 11:21 a.m.

    byu. bcs.

    LOL

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 5, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    @AZUTE1

    BYU/Utah game stats:
    1st Downs: UT 16, BYU 24
    3rd Down Conversions: UT 1/14, BYU 5/21
    Total Yards: UT402, BYU 443
    Rushing Yards: UT 129, BYU 183
    Passing Yards: UT 273, BYU 260

    When you say "We totally/unequivocally controlled this game throughout," I assume you must mean the total dominance of 13 extra yards in passing, since I'm not seeing that Utah was really even close to BYU in any other meaningful non-score statistic. Congrats on the final score, but claiming total dominance of the game is an embarrassingly false claim.

    @Uteology - with the 21st toughest schedule in the country, BYU has a tougher schedule, according to Sagarin, than Alabama (47), Florida State (54), Ohio State (81), or Oregon (62). Yes, Utah's (4), and Stanford's (12) schedules are even tougher than BYU's, but I don't suspect you credit BYU for improving the Utes' schedule strength. Give us all a laugh and return to tell us that Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State, and Oregon don't play a "real schedule," and that the 21st toughest schedule is not a "real schedule."

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Nov. 5, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    AZUTE1: What are you talking about? Hypothetical obscene margins? Revisiting specific moments from the Utah/BYU game? What exactly do you think you're responding to, bra? You seem to be reading a heck of a lot into one brief line from my post.

    Let me sum up what I meant, though I never thought I'd have to clarify something so simple: it stinks we lost to Virginia (a bad team) and to Utah (a mediocre team). But, both games happened, so what are you gonna do?

    Any other random objections to imaginary statements?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 5, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    Good match up and a big challenge for BYU. Too bad they can't play their way into a better/higher tier bowl. Looking forward to the game!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 5, 2013 12:01 a.m.

    slopj30--

    "Is there a little regret over the VA and UT games?"

    What do these 2 have to do w/each other? byu = UVA's sole FBS victory.

    byu fans always create these hypothetical games where byu brutalizes by an outrageous/obscene margin, like by 31/24/44 points or something. Then, they must awake and play the real games, always ending in the same, identical manner w/a U victory.

    This year was no different, as we led the game from start-to-finish and were never seriously threatened. byu's sole TD was a gift from the refs after we shut byu down on 3rd and 10 from our 44 yardline, forcing an obvious punt, when ER was dead-ball PF'ed for trash-talking, resulting in byu''s 1st down near our redzone. This after trash-talking/extracurricular-activity flourished unpenalized on both sides for the vast majority of the game. Final margin of 7 points was utterly misleading. We totally/unequivocally controlled this game throughout.

    Remember, after max's famous words he waited to utter 'til he knew he'd never have play against The U again, Coach KW responded w/stating we'd never lose to byu again -- 4 and counting.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:42 p.m.

    @ goutahutes - Cedar Hills, UT - "This article seems to be written with the purpose of attacking the Utah program. It seems to be out of line calling for Kyle Whittingham's job. It is clearly written by a pro BYU fan/journalist with an agenda. Unprofessional journalism."

    Yeah, riiiiight......

    Those little things like "facts", "records", "statistics" and such....we don't wanna talk about THOSE things.....

    I mean, after all, you guys ARE the best team in the state, right?

    Go Cougars!

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:31 p.m.

    @ birwin - Herrmian, UT - "Anyone wanting a good laugh should search DesNews for "BYU football Cougars unveil tough balanced 2013 football schedule" and then look for the Chris B. Post. at 9:09 Jan 28th. He said that if BYU would do better than 1-4 against Texas, Boise, Notre Dame, Utah and Wisconsin, he would sing the BYU fight song and post it on You Tube...Ha Ha... I was on You Tube today searching for his song, but I could not find it...

    Mark it Down!!!"

    So....apparently Chris B. owes us a singing permformance on an international (YouTube) stage, eh? I mean we already beat Texas AND Boise so we're already "better" than 1-4.

    Chris B, what say you? Are you a man of your word? Utah fans ARE men of their word, aren't they?

    It's a great time to be a Cougar!

  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:18 p.m.

    Let's be honest, we aren't going to a BCS bowl. There would need to be a lot of bad things to happen around the NCAA for that too happen, plus we would have to win out.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:02 p.m.

    To me, this week is the barometer week for BYU. If they win at Wisconsin, I will believe that they are a legit top 25 team and better than Utah, despite being hammered at home by the Utes. I like BYU against ND. I think that the D can hold the Irish under 20 and the offense finds a few big plays to win. I'm looking forward to these two. Good luck Cougs!

  • Jeff ls Farr West, 84404
    Nov. 4, 2013 5:40 p.m.

    BCS, Maybe they will, maybe they won't. If they can split Wis and ND it will be a great start for next year. Against the schedule they have played, 9 and 3 is excellent. It could propel them into being a player next year. Go Independence, Go Cougars.
    Jeff

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    CougFaninTX
    Frisco, TX

    mn_online - "Any hope BYU had for a BCS bowl vanished when the clock hit triple zeros in Charlottesville against a team that has since been proven to be really bad."

    That didn't stop Stanford from being in the discussion for a BCS.

    -----------

    That's because they play a real schedule.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 3:57 p.m.

    CougFaninTX notes that a loss "didn't stop Stanford from being in the discussion for a BCS."

    That is because Stanford was a highly ranked team from an automatic qualifying conference. BYU is the opposite of that. The Virginia loss was killer for unranked non-AQ BYU, ending hopes to join the ranks of 47 other teams to play in a BCS bowl game. Next year begins the 4 team playoff, and the same (or tougher) criteria applies to mid-majors: one loss and you're out. Know what it takes to get there.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    @birwin, great find! @ChrisB, please post the youtube link so we can all enjoy it! Or would you prefer to wait out the season and see just how far off your original 1-4 estimate ends up?

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    I'll take BYU's mediocre 2013 year anytime over most of BYU's past schedules. It's been fun (and frustrating) to watch. If BYU could somehow win all its games on such a schedule then bring on the BCS. Otherwise let's keep going with 8-11 win seasons playing national teams on national tv, it's really fun! And who really cares about the lack of a conference championship. This scenario is really all Utah has to play for too, a rare chance that they win the PAC12 and thus hit another big bowl. The Utes are poised to compete for their division in good years and then have a tough road to win the conference...not dissimilar to BYU's situation. Go Cougars and keep bringing good games against good teams!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    mn_online - "Any hope BYU had for a BCS bowl vanished when the clock hit triple zeros in Charlottesville against a team that has since been proven to be really bad."

    That didn't stop Stanford from being in the discussion for a BCS.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    After seeing UCLA struggle against Colorado this weekend, the Utes might be a little concerned. Here's how I see them:

    BYU:
    Nov 9, 2013 @ Wisconsin on ESPN BYU in a squeaker, 31-30
    Nov 16, 2013 Idaho State @ Provo on BYUTV BYU slaughter, 51-9
    Nov 23, 2013 @ Notre Dame on NBC ND in a close one, 40-34
    Nov 30, 2013 @ Nevada on CBS BYU in dominating fashion, 36-10
    BYU final record: 9-3

    Utah:
    11/09/13 vs. Arizona State TV? ASU 45, Utah 10
    11/16/13 at OregonTV? OR 67, Utah 21
    11/23/13 at Washington StateTV? WSU 30, Utah 35
    11/30/13 vs. Colorado TV? CO 30, Utah 24
    Utes final record: 5-7

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    Utah will intentionally tank the season going 0-4 if it meant that BYU's computer numbers would put them in contention of a BCS bid!!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:34 p.m.

    @ SoonerUte:

    When Urban Meyer qualified for a BCS bowl game while at Utah, they played an 8-3 Pittsburgh team that was ranked in only one poll... and number 24 at that. And that's not the only time a team with multiple losses have played in BCS bowl games.
    Granted that it pretty much requires an affiliation with an automatic qualifying conference. But still, it has happened and theoretically could happen again involving a 2-loss team if the cards all fell in the right way. Not likely, but indeed possible.

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    BYU has about as much of a chance of making it to a BCS bowl this year as Utah does.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    @ mn_online:

    Very few teams play on national TV as much as BYU does... almost every week. 10 times this year. That's great exposure that most teams can only dream about. Utah plays on a sports channel that the biggest satellite company in the country (Direct-TV) doesn't even carry.
    I'm quite sure the only time Utah played on ESPN this year was when they played BYU, and consequently was their highest watched game this season.

    On top of that, BYU is making more than 4 times as much revenue now than when they were conference affiliated.

    And lastly, as BeSmart pointed out, BYU will be playing 2 nationally ranked and nationally known teams this month... both games with national tv coverage. The percentage of college teams doing that this year is actually very small.

    @ Chris B:

    BCS:Utah

    Even more of a LOL!

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    idablu-- Yes, that's the case THIS year. I'm not sure the MWC will be in playoff discussion in the future very often and if there was a playoff this year, Fresno wouldn't be going either. The playoff formula is not made to reward teams like FS. I think most BYU fans enjoy seeing them play name brand teams from all over the country. It seems the BYU power brokers chose exposure a few years ago.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    I've always felt kind of sorry for the "you have nothing left to play for" crowd. Obviously it's more fun to root for a team that's undefeated or has a legitimate shot at a national or conference title, but if that's all that keeps you interested in your team, you ain't much of a fan. It also means that, by this time of the year, most fans would have no reason to buy a ticket or find their team on TV.

    Whether you're one of the few hundred commited Ute fans or one of the thousdands of BYU die-hards, I would hope you would still have at least some emotional investment in the last few games. Keeping the BCS flame alight is kind of sad at this point, but so what? Winning out, or even finishing with only one more loss, would make for a nice, if imperfect season. Is there a little regret over the VA and UT games? Sure. So we're not one of the handful of teams with a realistic shot this year, just like 95% of the field.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    Souptwins--
    Not so fast. Right now Fresno State, a MWC team is in the driver's seat to a BCS bowl bid. Considering the fact they barely squeaked a win against Boise State and should have lost to SDSU, BYU would have no problem beating this team. Yet they are the top non BCS team for a BCS bowl offer. With the right scheduling, this year and next year, BYU would probably be going to a BCS game.

    Don't get me wrong. I think independence is still a net plus. However, if the objective is to play in a BCS bowl, then staying in the MWC gives us our best chances. If exposure is the priority, then independence or BCS conference is the best option.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:36 p.m.

    Wisconsin with their 2 stud RB's will run wild on ybu. Badgers win going away 35-17.

  • birwin Herrmian, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:25 p.m.

    Anyone wanting a good laugh should search DesNews for "BYU football Cougars unveil tough balanced 2013 football schedule" and then look for the Chris B. Post. at 9:09 Jan 28th. He said that if BYU would do better than 1-4 against Texas, Boise, Notre Dame, Utah and Wisconsin, he would sing the BYU fight song and post it on You Tube...

    Ha Ha... I was on You Tube today searching for his song, but I could not find it...

    Mark it Down!!!

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    "At least BYU is still in the BCS discussion."
    They are not in a national discussion. Nothing on ESPN/CNNSI/FoxSports/CBSSports. Nationally, the discussion is about Fresno State, NIU, and Central Florida. The local discussion of BYU in the BCS is either a cruel joke or delusion.

    As the 14 year run of the BCS comes to a close, the reason that BYU never got there is "they didn't understand what it takes". Urban Meyer understood it took a perfect season, and that's what he did. Kyle Whittingham understood it took a perfect season, and that's what he did. To say a 2-loss mid-major could make a BCS Bowl shows ignorance of the system.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    Some people-- usually Utah fans---like to compare BYU being an indy team or being in one of the big 5 conferences. Of course it would be better to be in a big 5 conference but that's never been an option for BYU (Big East invite doesn't count, dodged a bullet there). Most of us BYU fans realize we come with baggage (scheduling, TV rights, etc) which is why an invite hasn't come yet. The real comparison should be between being Indy and still being in the MWC. Yes, we'll take independence every time with those options! Maybe the playoffs will make a difference somewhere down the road or the MWC will make an offer we can't refuse but you can't be sure either of those will happen. For now, independence is working quite nicely and we hope to win enough games to stay in the national conversation and land in a bigger conference when further changes come along. Right now, it's all about winning games. Go Coug's!!

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    Forget the BCS. Focus on beating a really good team that may go to the Rose Bowl again.

    As for Virginia, well, a QB with two or three starts under his belt total, a new OC, a new offense dumbed down, a new offensive line, played in a monsoon, delayed for two hours after the start. And the loss was because of a final pass through the hands of a running back, right into the hands of a defender who took it to the red zone.

    As for Utah, 30 incomplete passes and a stacked box defense cost BYU the game. Those were both bad losses, so all we can do is get a couple of good wins and beat USC or Washington in the Hunger Bowl.

    Wisconsin is real, but so is BYU, so I would take BYU and the points for an upset win. But it will be an upset and the odds maker will have Wisconsin by 7 to 10 points at game time. So don't bet what you can't afford to lose.

  • Mt Rushmore Arlington, VA
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    Chris B

    At least BYU is still in the BCS discussion.

    Utah, on the other hand, isn't even in the bowl discussion.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:16 a.m.

    To all the haters who for the past two and a half years, clucking and crowing about how as an indy, BYU would never have anything to play for late in the season, and how as part of an AQ conference, Utah would always be in the national conversation and in the hunt for the Rose Bowl. Who has more to play for now?

    Will BYU get that oh-so-coveted BCS invite this year? Vanishingly small chance. But in setting the conversation for next year, in finishing as high in the national polls as possible, and in playing on the biggest stages in November, I'll take this every time.

    Go Cougars!

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    @mn_online
    Actually I like independence.
    And BYU is playing two high profile opponents in November
    Ever heard of Wisconsin or Notre Dame?
    Wisconsin has been to 3 straight rose bowls.
    Notre Dame is Notre Dame.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    BCS. BYU.

    LOL!

  • mn_online In, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:53 a.m.

    Any hope BYU had for a BCS bowl vanished when the clock hit triple zeros in Charlottesville against a team that has since been proven to be really bad. Those who wanted to fool themselves into believing that BCS hopes remained should have been shocked back to reality with the loss to what has been proven to be another mediocre Utah team. With those two losses, there is no scenario where BYU backs into the BCS, so can we all stop fooling ourselves?

    I'll admit BYU's better off out of the MWC, but independence continues to hurt the football program. We can keep telling ourselves that these November games matter, but they don't. BYU is going to San Francisco and there is no conference championship available to the Cougars to change that fact. Despite two bad non-conference losses, Texas now sits atop the Big XII and controls its destiny for a BCS bowl berth. Can BYU claim the same, despite handing Texas one of those losses? Nope. (Oh, and teams in good conferences also play on national TV against high-profile opponents in the month of November.)

    Still think independence is awesome?

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:47 a.m.

    If BYU can play well we can win out. Worst case we're 8-4 on the season. Best case we're 10-2. Either way it's been a good season, minus poor losses to two bad teams. But seeing the improvement by the whole squad week after week has been great to see!

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:36 a.m.

    Voodohound--- I like the way you think. There's virtually no way BYU will get a BCS bowl but it is always fun to give the "big boys" cause to pause and fumble over their conference snob ways. I'm still thinking Wisc. wins this one but feel more hopeful now than I was a month ago and think an upset is certainly possible. Andersen will make sure his team doesn't overlook BYU the way Texas did and they are sure to game plan for our weaknesses. Can't wait for this game. Go Coug's!!

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    The details on Falslev's injury I heard was that he caught himself falling on the waverider at Provo Beach Resort. I can totally see that happening and understand why they'd want to keep it under wraps. Stupid way to lose your starting PR and good WR. I understand wanting to have these "team building" activities on a bye week but can they pick something a little less physical?

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    @ Cletus = Arizona State wins utah by 39 so go write it down.
    Go Cougars!

  • Voodohound99 Provo, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    Not likely, in fact near impossible for a BCS bowl this year. But we have a chance to beat a few teams that may be playing in a BCS bowl. Texas, Houston, and Wisconsin are still in the hunt for their conference championship and automatic BCS birth. Wouldn't that be ironic IF BYU beat Wisconsin and IF all three of those schools won their conference? What would that say about the BCS system?

    Just thinking....

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    @ MapleDon
    I personally think BYU has pretty much no chance of being in the BCS with 1 loss maybe.
    But CBS and National Football Post have both discussed BYU in the BCS.
    As far as I know those two publications are not BYU "fans"
    One thing interesting I found on ESPN are the drive for a championship rankings (no idea that that is) But they have BYUs schedule #12 and Utah's #2 so this has by far been the toughest year for the Utes and Cougs.
    Hopefully the cougs can pull out a really tough game.
    And hopefully the Utes can improve and make a bowl game.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    "There’s been some talk that if BYU can win its final four games, it could be a darkhorse for a BCS bowl bid."

    Really? By whom...BYU fans?

    Not going to happen. We get a cheap bowl in California every year. That's it.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    We're going to crush Wisconsin and win the Independant Conference.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    idablu: I appreciate the Dumb and Dumber reference. But it would be Dumbest to think BYU can get a BCS bid.

    Falslev's injury is huge. Even without him, the Cougs have a shot, but 3 road games, 2 against ranked opponents is going to be a tough row to hoe.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    @AZTim--Faslev's injury occurred at an "an indoor entertainment center" according to another report. I imagine BYU coaches aren't saying much about it because they are a little embarrassed by the fact that it occurred at a team sponsored event that had nothing to do with football.

    I am still scratching my head over the loss to Virginia. Man, they are really stinking it up this year. Maybe one of these years BYU offense will actually be ready by the first game, instead of 4 games into the season.

    Maybe the 1 in a billion ("so you're saying there's a chance") chance of going to a BCS is enough to motivate this team against Wisconsin. But what if they lose? What will motivate them agains ND? That is one of the drawbacks of independence, I guess.

  • J Poll Gilford, NH
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    It's easy to see why Wisconsin is favored in this one given their past few seasons and their conference. Add the fact that BYU has barely beaten (and once been beaten) by a Gary Anderson Coached team that had less overall talent and depth. With a bigger arsenal at his disposal, we can bet Anderson and his badgers will bring everything they have at the Cougars and we will not sneak up on them. We are in for a real fight. We are in their hostile house. We will need to play our best game this season. I think this is the best, most solid team we will play this season. We have to win on turnover margin, field position (without Falslev), 3rd down conversions (Off & Def), and Red Zone production which means cutting way down on False Starts, Delay of Game and other nagging penalties. It's a tall order. Go Cougs!

  • Horrible Stumper Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    Sorry BYU fans, no way do you make it to a BCS bowl. You may win out as well as the Cougs are playing, but having Idaho State on your schedule is a problem. You cannot score enough points against them for the BCS computers to not hold it against you. And a win against a down Nevada won't help you either. Loss to Virginia......a killer.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    BYU wins out and yes they will be discussed for an obligatory two- minutes max time frame during the BCS seeding discussions. I just want BYU to win this week though. Go get Wisconsin!!

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:06 a.m.

    Wisconcin will win byu by 39 so go write it down!

    Go Utes!

  • BYU Joe MISSION VIEJO, CA
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:58 a.m.

    Sam Francisco in December. Already bought the tickets. Not because we will lose but because we already lost. Its ok - big games ahead and chances for big bowl type wins.

    Truth is BYU v ND is a way bigger game than playing in a non BCS Bowl against a MWC opponent or in SF against a PAC 12 midlevel.

    Bowls are just the last game - not always the biggest.

  • AzTim Gilbert, AZ
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:58 a.m.

    Article says Falslev broke his hand in a "team activity". Does anyone know what that "team activity" was besides a game or practice? Just curious.

  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    I'm holding my breath on the Wisconsin game. It could go either way but the Y has been improving weekly throughout the season. I did not like how they came off their last bye week.. I hope they learned some lessons on that one and come out with a killer attitude at the very beginning.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:39 a.m.

    BYU just needs to stay focused, win out, and let the cards fall where they may.

    No amount of politicking will sway the BCS bowls, but it is interesting to see BYU beginning to be included in the discussion after starting the season with losses to pathetic Virginia and fading Utah.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:38 a.m.

    @KTar - I agree. Might have been a possibility for a BCS with 1 loss, but not with 2. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Two tough games remaining with the Badgers and Irish. If we finish strong, the Cougs will likely start the season in the Top 25 next year, and with a little easier schedule in 2014, magic could happen.

    I also think there is a slight possibility, if the Cougs win out, that another bowl could buy them out of Fight Hunger.

    Looking forward to Saturday. Let's go Cougs, and get this big win.

  • BYU Fan in DC Washington, DC
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:11 a.m.

    I wonder why the press even talks about a long-shot BCS when we have a tough Wisconsin team ahead. Start that conversation if we go 3-0 and are about to play Nevada

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 3:19 a.m.

    This game, in my opinion, will be BYU's toughest up to this point in the season. And that includes the Utah game.

    Wisconsin is a ranked, Big 10 school with a wild fan base, and of course, Coach Gary Anderson has solid experience coaching against the Cougars.

    Wisconsin is beatable and the Cougars have already shown they can defeat ranked schools like Texas. But BYU must avoid turnovers, penalties and sloppy special teams play or its going to be a long day for them in Madison.

    GO COUGARS!

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 3:09 a.m.

    @Tom in CA

    Sorry my friend, I hate to be the one to say it but our beloved BYU Cougar's shot at a BCS bowl game ended when they lost to Virginia.

    So without a shot at a BCS bowl or even conference title, what is BYU truly playing for then? Several things.

    1 - A road win against a ranked team (this week Wisconisn is ranked #21 in the AP and #22 in the coaches poll) is always a plus for recruiting.

    2 - A road win against a ranked team will prove to the sports writers that the Cougars can in fact win games against tough opponents.

    3 - (And perhaps the most important one of all) It will really annoy the Ute trollers

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:26 a.m.

    Just worry about what you can control, which involves winning every game. That means you bring it to the field and put all your effort into every down at every position. I hope BYU can do this the rest of the way. They can beat anybody. But they can also lose to anybody. They've proven that twice this year. It's time to play ball with the best Cougars. Please do your best on the field, but in the hype blogs.

  • Max for President Brighton, MA
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:28 a.m.

    While I'm as excited as the next at the possibility of running the table, Wisconsin seems like they'll be a tough opponent. While scrappy, both Houston and Boise State were comparatively undersized opponents (O-line weight averages 313 and 293 respectively). BYU is at 280 on the O-line. By comparison, Wisconsin O-line average is 6'5 322, good enough for weighing in at 7th in the country Same goes on the D-line. And their Corners are taller, making it unlikely Cody and Mitch will have as much of a heyday out there.

    Add to that an away game in an 80,000+ stadium at Camp Randall, and I wonder if we're going to have our hands full in a hostile environment.

    My fear is that a really fatiguing, physical game might spell trouble against Notre Dame. Any thoughts on this?

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 11:37 p.m.

    I'm thinking they would have a much, much better chance if they had taken the victory against Virginia and not decided to get fancy and thereby lose the game after a turnover. While that's 20-20 hindsight and Monday-morning quarterbacking, I hope the coaches learned a thing or two. I also hope they remember when happened to Taysom hill when they left him in and didn't instruct him to take a knee some months back. Hopefully when we get the game in the bag the back-up will get a few reps. It should have happened already this season but hasn't yet. I do hope they win the remaining four and watching Wisconsin last week, it appears to me the Cougars can be victorious if they bring their best game.

    Go Cougars!

  • KTar Boise, ID
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:53 p.m.

    @ Tom in CA

    Don't plan on it man. I'm a BYU guy, have been my whole life, I'm not trolling here. But there is absolutely NO chance BYU goes BCS bowling with losses to pathetic Virginia and hapless Utah. It's not uncommon for a special season and a good season to be decided by a few plays.

    It's still been a fun year with some good wins. I loved watching BYU expose #15 Texas, and the thriller against Houston and decimation of Boise St are games I loved watching. I would LOVE to see the Cougs win out from here.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:42 p.m.

    Tom in CA,

    It is definitely a long shot. Several things would have to bounce our way.

    #1- We need to win out with convincing wins over both Wisconsin and Notre Dame
    #2- We need Houston to unseat UCF and Louisville from the rankings and remain unranked themselves
    #3- We need Texas to beat Baylor and win the Big 12.
    #4- Finish the regular season ranked higher that Fresno St. and Northern Illinois
    #5- Finish the regular season ranked in the top 15

    Even that might not be enough. But it would be a beautiful end to the BCS era.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:13 p.m.

    We as fans need to do what the players do - take one game at a time and let the chips fall where they may.

    Fun to think about, but plenty of more pressing things to think about first.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 3, 2013 8:27 p.m.

    "There’s been some talk that if BYU can win its final four games, it could be a darkhorse for a BCS bowl bid."

    Wouldn't that be some poetic justice?? lol.