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Published: Monday, Nov. 4 2013 7:49 a.m. MST

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Utes-Best Lil Brothers
Anaheim, CA

Nikeboy1101

"Why are we always comparing Utah vs. BYU."

Because BYU is the standard against which everything Utah does must be compared before it can be considered an accomplishment - see Little Brother Syndrome.

By definition, Utah can't move on without abandoning all hope of ever accomplishing anything ever again.

U 90
Corona, CA

Eight of first ten comments by BYU fans. The infatuation with Utah continues.

Tators, Utah is 4-4 with a MUCH tougher schedule than BYU. If BYU was the better team why didn't the great Van Noy, Hoffman and Hill pull out the W on their home field against the Utes? Do you think Utah's #3 SOS has anything to do with their 4-4 record vs. BYUs 6-6 record?

Number of bowl games last 10 years: BYU 8, Utah 9

BCS Bowl Wins: BYU 0, Utah 2

BYU Head to head record vs Utah: 0-4, 3-9, 34-57

Wins against top 10 ranked teams this year: BYU 0, Utah 1

Losses to 2-7 teams this year: BYU 1, Utah 0

Number of consecutive years BYU has owned the softer schedule vs. Utah... 3 and counting

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

Snack PAC

I've seen various bowl prognosticators projecting Washington, USC, Arizona, or Oregon State as opponents for BYU in the Fight Hunger Bowl.

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U 90

Losing a couple of early season games to lesser teams isn't even close to as embarrassing as finishing with a losing record and no bowl for the 2nd straight year.

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red.diehard

"Can't" is a gross overstatement. If "can't" is defined as losing four in a row, then the Utes might as well not even bother showing up for the Arizona State game on Saturday, since the Sun Devils have beaten the Utes NINE times in a row (since 1977, when ASU was still in the WAC), including two blowout wins since the Utes joined the PAC 12.

U 90
Corona, CA

@ Utes-Best Lil Brothers "BYU is the standard against which everything Utah does must be compared..."

Says the BYU fan on the Utah thread. First, if you have no need to compare yourself against Utah, why are you here on a Ute thread? Second, in order to be considered big brother you have to actually beat little brother on the field. Ooops

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

U 90

FICTION: Utah is 4-4 with a MUCH tougher schedule than BYU.
FACT: Utah is 4-4 with a slightly tougher schedule than BYU, #4 versus #21.

National Championships
BYU 1
Utah 0

Heisman Trophy winners
BYU 1
Utah 0

National College Football Hall of Fame Players
BYU 6
Utah 0

AP Top 25 Finishes
BYU 17
Utah 5

11+ Win Seasons
BYU 11 (including 3 during the Bronco/Kyle era)
Utah 2 (including 1 during the Bronco/Kyle era)

10+ Win Seasons
BYU 16 (including 5 during the Bronco/Kyle era)
Utah 6 (including 3 during the Bronco/Kyle era)

Losses to 10+ Loss Teams
Bronco 0
Kyle 2

Conference Championships
Bronco 2
Kyle 1

Current Bowl Winning Streak
Bronco 4
Kyle 1

Current number of seasons BYU has finished with a better record AND higher ranking than Utah... 2 and counting.

Overall number of seasons Bronco has finished with a better record AND higher ranking than Kyle... 5 of 8 and counting.

U 90
Corona, CA

@ Truth "Losing a couple of early season games to lesser teams isn't even close to as embarrassing as finishing with a losing record and no bowl for the 2nd straight year"

First of all I didn't know Utah was out of the bowl picture at 4-4 with 4 games to go. Second, how do you figure Utah is a lesser team vs. BYU when the Cougars have lost to them 4 years in a row?

Truth, do you even consider the schedule BYU played last year becoming bowl eligible by beating an assortment of rag tag teams yet losing to Utah once again. Do you also consider Utah's #3 schedule which will be the #1 schedule a week from Saturday? You have nothing to support BYU is the better team other than your dreams.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@U90
I am sorry but your argument of a MUCH tougher schedule is not as legit as you say.
ESPN has BYU at #12 SOS ahead of almost all the power conference teams
Utah is #2 SOS which I think is awesome.
But against the #12 schedule to have a record of 6-2 is pretty awesome for a "mid-major"
Utah's 4-4 record I think is really respectable. If they win 3 out of the next 4 then I think it will be a successful season. 6-6 would be respectful but the way the bowl season is shaking out may not get Utah into a bowl game (if they make 6 wins I hope they make a bowl).
I will add this because it is my and the experts opinion BYU is the better team this year (yes I know that Utah beat BYU), but the Utes have sadly regressed to a poor team (I think they can improve and be good again).
BYU has steadily improved to become a good team on the fringe of a top-25 ranking. (yes they had two losses but that was a long time ago)

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ U90
FYI the SOS rankings include the teams from the whole years schedule i.e. Oregon, ASU, WSU, and Colorado are already figured into that number. Most likely the Utes schedule will stay the same unless Utah's opponents begin losing games.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

With byu's inability to beat Utah, and Utah's inability to beat most pac 12 teams(other than top 10 powerhouse otherwise undefeated Stanford), it begs the question: Would byu win a single game if we invited them(We wont) to the Pac 12?

sammyg
Springville, UT

'Utes looking to pick up the pace on picks.'

"Eight of first ten comments by BYU fans..." Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

With a story headline like that what do you poor oversensitive Ute fans expect?

The question has been asked, "First, if you have no need to compare yourself against Utah, why are you here on a Ute thread?"

U90, here's my unsolicited reply...

Because it's fun to yank Ute fans and I'm not comparing anything.

You do recall the circumstances that BYU's current QB ended his season on the most idiotic call of all times and the subsequent roasting of the coaches etc. and predicted continued ineptness of that and Taysom's long and questionable road to recovery and predicted averageness this season? You do remember all of this correct?

So pardon me for saying that our QB has now risen from the ashes of those that burned him and the BYU coaches since that time and is currently smoking your QB.

Yeah, a headline about the poor Ute picks might garner a few comments.

I'm watching more and more PAC 10 football. I'm liking most of the teams, even the Buffs.

Go Sun Devils!

TanMan_101
West Jordan, UT

@Tators

Number of wins Utah has against BYU in the last 4 years? 4
Number of BCS conference invites Utah 1 BYU- Big fat zero.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

sammyg
Springville, UT

'Utes looking to pick up the pace on picks.'

"Eight of first ten comments by BYU fans..." Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

With a story headline like that what do you poor oversensitive Ute fans expect?

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Class, from a fan base that call out others.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

Chris B

Despite your frantic attempt to claim otherwise, head-to-head results are meaningless when predicting results versus common opponents.

Stanford lost to Utah, but beat Oregon State and UCLA.

Utah beat Stanford, but lost to Oregon State and UCLA.

See the correlation?

That's right, there isn't any.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

TanMan_101

Number of bowl wins BYU has in the last 4 years: FOUR
Number of bowl wins Utah has in the last 4 years: TWO

Chances to play in a bowl this year:
BYU: 100%
Utah: less than 50% (even with a 6-6 record, there's no guarantee)

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Solomon Levi,

If playing in any given bowl and a decent record were the objectives for Utah, we'd go independent and just schedule byu 12 times a year.

But some teams like to have a meaningful season and not have their quest for anything significant end after 1 game(like you did with Virginia)

LOL

Samurai Jake
Salt Lake City, UT

Here's a thought: despite 15 picks in 4 PAC-12 games, the Utes have had legitimate shots at coming out with a victory in every game except the SC no-show.

Maddening to think that had they given up 7 or even 8 picks in 4 games, the Utes could easily have been 8-0, or 7-1 at this point.

The refining process has been both exciting and devastating. All letdowns aside, I like the direction the Utes are headed.

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