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Mitt Romney goes after tea party, Obama's 'fundamental dishonesty' about Obamacare

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  • vance SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    We keep the two party system, everyone loses. Those brought forward by either party are owned BY that party, to run for specific positions, not by his qualifications. All but several Politicians in office today are there to do what their party tells them to do. Who do you think has put America in the position it is in now ? Anyone else besides the Republican and Democratic parties? Has ANY ONE of them come out and exposed the corruption in our Federal Government? Of course not because they are a party to it. Have ANY ONE of the pressed the Constitutionality of all of the laws that are stripping us of our Constitutional freedoms? Of course not, let alone Government agencies (over 1300) that should not even exist or that the Federal Reserve is a private corporation not a Fed. Agency. We need a third party folks.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 5:07 a.m.

    Flip. Flop. Flip. Flop. Typical Romney. I thank everything that is holy that he isn't in the White House.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 12:04 a.m.

    Obama and Reid were the bullheaded leaders that would not do what has been done in the past negotiate and compromise. Obama and Reid refused to give the house any input and just said its my way or the highway. They shut the government down but the media is so invested in Obama they refused to report the facts.

  • Bill Fitz LAKE BLUFF, IL
    Nov. 7, 2013 6:47 p.m.

    MRKJ, I trust your little diatribe helps you feel better about your current president?

  • sukiyhtaky us, CA
    Nov. 6, 2013 3:15 p.m.

    Mayhem...so you think it was a "distinguished" thing to do to label Christie as "puffer fish"? Was it "distinguished" for his son to come out the day after the loss and say well my mother and I didn't really want him to take the job in the first place...after the countless hours his volunteers put in tirelessly? To me it was a slap in the face. I voted for him but I believe it was his race to lose and he did with bad choices...including too many people like his kids who didn't know what they were doing. He should have hired the Huntsman girls who seem to have more political savvy than his kids.

  • Turtle Owasso, OK
    Nov. 6, 2013 5:44 a.m.

    @Gandalf

    You didn't address the comment about Obama's dishonesty. This president has said more than 47 times "If you like your health care you can keep your health care, period!" That has proven to be a totally dishonest statement when the Federal Register said that between 40 and 67 percent of those could not.

    Stay on subject...

  • Mkithpen Sandy, UT
    Nov. 5, 2013 11:24 p.m.

    Did Romney say he would have initiated a Federal requirement for everyone to have insurance with no pre-existing conditions? I didn't see the full quote in this article. If so where is the difference when we are being forced to buy something regardless if its from the Federal or State Government. The Commerce Clause comes to mind? I am more convinced everyday that my decision to join the Constitution Party has been the right decision.

  • Phillip M Hotchkiss Malta, Mt
    Nov. 5, 2013 7:38 p.m.

    Tea in Tea party means . Taxed enough already. I for one stand with said party because I can not afford to pay more taxes.

  • jzwillows willows, ca
    Nov. 5, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    More from a chameleon whose colors change with what the perceives voters want - even turning socialist - "I had a very conservative platform . . . My own plan was to say to each state, 'You've got a requirement to move to a point where all your people are insured. . .' "

  • Chameleon104 Fayetteville, NC
    Nov. 5, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    Thanks you for your contribution msc. If the system would allow it, I, too, think that there should be considerable house cleaning in Washington. Though, considering the nature of the electorate, it is not likely that we will get exactly what you suggested. Too many people have eaten from the Democrat trough and will always support them in order to keep the entitlements flowing. "when you rob Peter to pay Paul, you will always have a friend in Paul".

  • Chameleon104 Fayetteville, NC
    Nov. 5, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    NeilT, the TEA Party didn't exist when Obama was first sworn in. He and the other Socialists helped create their own nemesis and now conveniently use them as scapegoats for their own failed policies and agenda.

  • mjllindsey west valley, UT
    Nov. 5, 2013 1:12 a.m.

    Romney was better than obama. But a Rino. sorry to tell you. I didn't think he was dynamic enough. And failed miserably to attack Obama. You have to be a freedom fighter to see what Obama stands for. A need to point out the ideological defects was not there. No one seems to want to do this other than the Tea Party. We need a fighter. Romney is not a fighter. He's a lover. For some reason no one wants to attack Obama. Is it because he's half black? Isn't FREEDOM worth fighting for. We need a general, OAKS is my suggestion,

  • msc CLARKSTON, WA
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:44 p.m.

    I wish we could start from scratch and boot all the current office holders out of D.C. and bring in a whole new crop of representatives and Senators who will truly work for the American people and uphold the Constitution. I don't care about Party affiliation as much as I care about patriotism and honesty and morality. I don't think morality should be legislated, but I do think those who hold office should have a strong moral compass by which they make their decisions and determinations. I love this country and believe we should elect those who also love this country and aren't afraid to uphold the Constitution and put the needs of this country and it's citizens before their personal agenda.

  • funny_guy Vacaville, CA
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:34 p.m.

    Romney didn't say how he would deal with Democrats stonewalling and refusing to negotiate the budget. Most likely he would have done the same thing Orrin Hatch did -- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    I am sick and tired of "politics as usual." Americans deserve honesty and integrity in our leaders, not candidates that make promises they have no intention of keeping and purposely lying.

    Romney is wrong that we need "moderate" Republican candidates. Democrats are taxing and spending America into extinction. We need hard-nosed politicians, like Lee and Cruz, who are willing to fight for America.

    And then their is a media that fails to vet politicians and hold them to their word. Case in point, it is disingenuous for papers, such as the Deseret News, to insinuating that the Republican hardline approach caused a "near-default on the nations debt." Anyone that believes government needs to borrow trillions of dollars each year to pay our bills is a fool. The media should never be a sounding board for such lies and deception.

    Lack of accountability and balanced journalism is part of the problem. Do your job!

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:28 p.m.

    There are those in other places in our world who are feeding the hate in America in a subtle way, and in a way where they cannot be traced.
    These people are standing on the sidelines watching how we are learning to malign and hate those who used to be our friends, neighbors, and acquaintances.
    A large number of America's powerful politicians, and well know radio hosts are only looking to strengthening their own egos and wealth.
    There will be no more planes flown into buildings. Those who want to see our country fail have only to whisper rumor, anger and distrust in the appropriate places to bolster the flames of our country's destruction.
    America is destroying itself to it's core from within with the help of numerous outside sources.
    Strange that more citizens cannot see this truth.

  • Harley Rider Small Town, CT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:08 p.m.

    Romney - He answers to the bankers and would be just another yes man to do their bidding

    TeaParty is about returning our government to following the Constitution as the law of the land and protect our precious liberties and freedoms , something that Bush or Obama know nothing about ie - Democrat or Republican

    They fear the message of the Tea Party catching on - imagine if Washington was govern by the Constitution - No Obama Care ( But Health Reform would be done the right way ) No anti - American legislation like the Patriot Act & NDAA Bill. Manufacturing jobs brought back to America , Illegal Immigration is against the law ( as it truly is ) Abolish the IRS , Completely downsize all Government and return State's their Constitutional Rights and quit being the world's policeman. The State Run Media will continue to spread their propaganda about the Tea Party as if the masses really found out about what the Tea Party is really about - O Boy!

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:43 p.m.

    I have never seen such hypocrisy and polarization in our political system. The tea party has done everything in their power to destroy Obama from the day he took the oath of office. Conservative talk radio pundits spew vitriol and hate. I will never forget the day Sean Hannity ranted about how uncivil the left is and then referred to our vice-president as 'that old Geezer." Turn on Rush Limbaugh and all you hear is Obama did this, Obama said that. Regardless of your political stripes I don't believe Obama deserves to be vilified the way he has been. With that said I didn't vote for him and I don't consider myself liberal. If America falls it will be due political parties and extreme partisanship, not socialism. One last thought for the tea party to invoke Reagan is pure hypocrisy. If Reagan were alive today he would be labeled a rino and never survived the primaries.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    Nov. 4, 2013 5:34 p.m.

    To all those so anxious to answer the question about Cruz's citizenship: were you correcting people who posed identical questions about Obama's citizenship?

    I know for a fact that some of the posters who rose to defend Cruz here have spread falsehoods and conspiracy theories about Obama on the pages of the DN over the past few years.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:54 p.m.

    Mitt Romney's support of Chris Christie is one of the more level headed comments he's made lately. As a former Republican (now independent conservative), I think Chris Christie appears to have more to offer than the other Republican hopefuls. I would love to see Jon Huntsman run as his Vice Presidential running mate. Until the Republican party puts up some better candidates (such as Christie and Huntsman) they won't have a change against the likes of Hillary Clinton!

  • Hora Cleveland, OH
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:29 p.m.

    Dishonest? that are not a big deal, a criminals who broke a many Law or ignore, nothing care, win with fraud and lie,now was said he enjoy kill peoples, a guy who can't prove are legal president and citizen, no honest, and NOT respect any Law, doing a dirty business, that guy must fired and jail, and all Dems was support him fired too permanent time from politic and jail too.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    @DGDENTON

    You are exactly right. The Democratic Party, empowered by Obama and Reed has shifted to the extreme Left, and much of the GOP has followed. Bill Clinton during his Presidency would now represent mainstream Republicanism. The Tea Party essentially represents mainstream Reagan conservatism. Those ideals haven't gone anywhere. Indeed, Democrats have become extreme. Most of them have no problem being referred to as Socialists. It didn't used to be that way. I just pray it is not too late to rescue this country from its downward spiral.

  • Clinton Draper, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:17 p.m.

    @JLFuller I think you are mistaken. It is the Democrats, progressives, and liberals of the country who are trying to force their social agenda on everybody else. The Tea Party is for fiscal responsibility and adherence to Constitutional principles.

  • Happy Liberal Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    Who really cares what Mitt Romney thinks? He lost. Enough said.

  • Bob K porland, OR
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    Owl
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Mitt Romney's insights are helpful. Universal and affordable health care are a given but Mr. Obama seems to blame Romneycare for his own mistakes. The tragically partisan fashion in which the ACA was formed......

    Untrue -- Obama made a fool of himself, asking over and over and over for the republicans to
    contribute to and improve the legislation, until it became clear that their interest in having him fail was more important than their duty, or than helping keep Americans healthy.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    Obamacare was wrong, and so was the tea party for trying to stop it?

  • Bob K porland, OR
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    MAYHEM MIKE
    Salt Lake City, UT
    @Gandalf: Your dredging up Romney's so-called "dishonesty" (which you haven't a shred of evidence for)
    .....Really? One does not need to rehash the facts, that Romney changed positions as often as his shirt, to please whatever situation he needed to conquer.

    I weep when I realize we could have had a distinguished, competent and transparent American President capable of "reaching across the aisle" instead of the pick of the low-information electorate.
    ....."low information electorate"??? Should we banish Congress & elections, then institute a House of Lords to tell us what is good for us?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 3:14 p.m.

    re:UtahBlueDevil

    2010 wasn't just a congressional landslide for conservative candidates - it was also governor races nation wide and also state legislators. You make it sound like the 2010 election was a small trickle which is nonsense. Where were you??? Leading up to the the election were town hall meetings if your recall where the anger nationwide was so against democrat's and moderate Republicans (such as our Bob Bennett from Utah) that the town hall forum was finally abandoned by the "frightened politicians" who were running like scared rabbits. Nancy Pelosi - as you recall - laughed at the notion of losing the House and her speakership. Loved the day after look of this woman - like a woman standing in a supermarket checkout line who had lost her wallet. The POINT here is it was the Tea Party that caused the victory and nothing more or less. Yes your "hated" Tea Party full of hard working, tax paying, patriotic Americans who wanted their country back from the radicals.

  • O'really Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    I honestly don't think Obama lied intentionally about keeping your insurance. But I do think he is so caught up in ramming his agenda through and arrogantly maintaining his image of being all powerful and cool to boot that he just never gave it much thought. He obviously never read the document or pondered the consequences or listened to any advisors that saw the train wreck coming and said, " This ain't going to be pretty. " It was all about forcing the law no matter what, no matter any possible negative consequences. I think he's just too proud to ever admit he was wrong. He's trying to fundamentally weaken our beloved country. And doing it shamelessly just because he thinks he can. I suggest anyone wondering to go back and watch 2016 or read Obama's America and think about how this is playing out. Everything he has done fits perfectly with the notion that he is attempting to undo the US as the superpower of the world. He's driving us to ruin.

  • jr85 United Kingdom , 00
    Nov. 4, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    Civility is something that is lacking in our political dialogue. This is due to the 24 hour news cycle that encourages sensationalised sound bite journalism on politics. Stations play to the lowest common denominator now rather than have meaningful discussions. Unfortunately politicians follow this path in order to get coverage/votes. We need to stop our mudslinging and gutter political culture and work together from the bottom up. Stop putting all this negative energy into politics and start solving problems. Both sides are as a bad as each other and they know it. We need to support our President whether it is Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Romney ,Rubio, Christie or Huntsman because at the end of the day whoever gets voted in what America wanted. 'United' States not divided States

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:20 p.m.

    observer50
    kaysville, UT
    to James D. Morrison
    TEd Cruz was an U.S. citizen at birth, due to his mother's citizenship.

    1:13 p.m. Nov. 4, 2013

    ============

    And yet Obama somehow can't be a U.S citizen - due to his mother [from Kansas] U.S. citizenship?
    Let alone also being born in Hawaii??

    Talk about boardline racist.

  • DGDENTON Gainesville, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    George W was a centrists who attempted to "reach across the aisle" in a spirit of political harmony. He appointed Democrats to positions, worked with Ted Kennedy on the "No Child Left Behind" legislation, and tried to make nice with the media. We know where that got him. He is reviled as am extremist and continues to be the whipping boy for the Dems. The RINOs had control of the Presidency and both houses of Congress. Still, the Democrats ran the government! I'm through with "compromise" and ready to ram the Tea Party down the throats of the Democrats who are the real extremists. The Tea Party is the real moderates!

  • dLange Los Gatos, CA
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:00 p.m.

    Romney's remarks remind me how fortunate we are that this man was never elected president, nor will he ever. Romney dares to criticize Obama's honesty? When Romney couldn't even be honest with himself. He was a Massachusetts moderate Republican who cow-towed to the tea party and to the worst elements of his party, he campaigned hard against Obamacare, which was modeled on the plan that he had implemented in Massachussets, and he knows what Obama meant when he said that you could keep your insurance policy. It wasn't the law that withdrew those policies, but the companies themselves.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:00 p.m.

    @Bruce A. Frank
    San Jose, CA

    I am sorry that Romney does not recognize that the Conservative/TEA Party movement engenders the self sufficiency and independence embraced by the historical LDS Church.
    11:24 a.m. Nov. 4, 2013

    =======

    You mean like the historical LDS Church which;

    Practiced very Un-orthox Marriages,
    Pushed for Freeing the Slaves [not very popular in slave owning Missouri],
    Gave Women the right to vote,
    provided Universal Healthcare,
    allowed others to practice who, where, or what they may, [Joseph Smith even calling himself the 2nd Mohammed]
    pushed heavily FOR Immigration - even paying for it,
    establishing the United Order [a form of Socialism/Communism],

    I'm sorry,
    but today's Tea-Party is anything BUT historical Mormonism.

  • Chameleon104 Fayetteville, NC
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    I like the way you think UtahBruin.

  • Chameleon104 Fayetteville, NC
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    Gandalf the "wizard" is conjuring up all kinds of evil. Lends truth the statement, "We don't see the world as it is; we see the world as we are."

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    The Tea Party basically has 2 main positions. They advocate fiscal responsibility and adherence to the Constitution.
    I have an honest question. How is this extreme?

    Yet the Liberals and Main Stream Media have successfully painted this stance as extremist and terrorist. Nothing could be further from the truth, but then your "heroes" like Obama, Pelosi, and Reed, really don't care about the truth, do they.

    Christie representing the GOP in the next presidential election? Give me a break!! The Democrats have clearly shown they have absolutely no interest in compromising, why should we be so willing to elect someone who would be more than willing to give up the ranch so easily.

  • JLFuller Boise, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    I voted for Mitt because I believe we need a technocrat to fix the fiscal mess the Republicans and Democrats have created. However, blaming the Tea Party is not justified at least as far as Tea Party version 1.0 is concerned. For those who do not know what version 1.0 is, let me explain. The first version was bipartisan and focused just on fiscal issues. Tea Party version 2.0 is the one where the religious zealots took control and wanted to force their social agenda on everyone. Version 2.0 can be said to be the child of the ultra conservative anti-everything that is not like them movement which includes most of the Evangelical movement and even some LDS.

  • observer50 kaysville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:13 p.m.

    to James D. Morrison
    TEd Cruz was an U.S. citizen at birth, due to his mother's citizenship.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 4, 2013 1:12 p.m.

    Obama flat out lied about Obama care. Flat out LIED. Obama care became "law" under false pretenses. It needs to be repealed, if for no other reason, because it was sold on a lie. The supreme court bought into the lie hook, line, and sinker. The Supreme Court was duped by Obama.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    Why can't he just go away? And why does this paper keep giving him a platform?

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    @Mike in Sandy

    As it really doesn't matter anymore now does it. But you say "Has anyone seen Mitts Tax Return yet?" Well since he released them all the way back to 2002, I would have to say yes in answer to your question.

    So since I answered yours, why don't you try one of mine. Has anyone seen Obama's real Birth Certificate yet? I am not referring to the "Certificate of Live Birth", I am referring to his Birth Certificate. They are two different documents. And while we are on this. Has anyone seen Obamas college transcripts yet? I know I haven't because Obama had them sealed. Hmmmmmmm, who's dishonest again?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    Patriot, i am not sure what part of math you don't understand.... but when you kick out all of the "moderate" Republicans, what is left is a very small percentage of Americans. 2010 was a mid year election, where voter turnouts are very low - and 2010 was a poster child for that. It was not a huge ground swell from the populace. It was a small election where the fringes have always had more influence.

    If you think someone like Lee or Cruz is more electable than a moderate, you are seriously living in a world where you don't think you need independent voters, you don't need moderate democrats to cross over like they did for Reagan, and you don't think you even need moderate Republicans. How you get to 50.1% without any of those groups, I don't know.

    It is one thing to be passionate about your cause. It is another to be living in complete denial. Math is math.... it doesn't bend to emotion.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 12:14 p.m.

    Romney is wrong. Last time I checked it was the Tea Party that won the 2010 mid term elections and NOT the establishment GOP. The establishment GOP will never win another national election period. The John McCains of the word are out of touch and much too weak to defeat the radical leftist Democrats. Conservatives are the only answer going forward and they CAN win as they proved in 2010.

  • Bruce A. Frank San Jose, CA
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:24 a.m.

    It is too bad the Romney wasn't the candidate with which we could have defeated Obama. But, much like it has been said that if we had elected McCain we would be going in the same direction as we are now, only slightly slower, clearly the same is true about Romney. Oddly the 4 million Conservatives who stayed home during the Presidential election, which is said would have provided the votes to elect Romney, had more insight into his true colors than the rest of us.

    I am sorry that Romney does not recognize that the Conservative/TEA Party movement engenders the self sufficiency and independence embraced by the historical LDS Church. I am sorry to see that a person who has been so successful in business, and one who has lead such a exemplary moral life, has not developed the core beliefs that are necessary to lead this democratic republic. It is really most unfortunate that when, Romney properly spoke up to criticize the current administration, he so spectacularly reveled the ultimate character flaw that caused his defeat.

  • dallas realist rockwall, texas
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    Can someone explain to me how those of us who cannot afford insurance are "required" to have it ? this is a real question. what happened to freedom ?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    @ pragmatistferlife:

    You lost all credibility by claiming "280 million people" will get to keep their health insurance and will see some kind of a premium decrease. Wow. I wished I could tell if you're actually sincere or are just being sarcastic. If sincere, you qualify to be the next Obama speechwriter... one who never lets anything as trivial as mere facts get in the way of an agenda.

    Obamacare will yet prove to be one of the greatest train-wrecks to ever come out of Washington DC. At this point, it's basically a given.

    So much of the anti-Romney rhetoric in this comment section helps prove the claim that many Obama backers are low-information voters. Some of the comments written are just unbelievable in their level of extreme bias. Such comments make me sincerely worry for the future of our country.

    It's possible Mitt Romney may've been one of the best presidents this country has ever had... as some of his previous media foes later claimed after actually getting to know the real Mitt. But it's absolutely unquestionable he would've been much better than what we currently have.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    @T.Party... you said "My message to Barack Obama (and his followers) is: don't make a promise if you don't intend to keep it."

    And I completely agree. Sometimes we can't keep promises we intend to keep, through changing circumstances. But knowingly making a promise or commitment, when you have no intention of keeping that promise or commitment - is simply wrong - no matter who - or what party.

    It is just that simple.

  • Pa. Reader Harrisburg, PA
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    Pots & kettles, Gov. Romneycare. Pots & kettles.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2013 10:05 a.m.

    Just wondering...
    Which Mitt Romney, out of the various selections available during the previous election period....
    .....is not going to friendship the Tea Party?

  • Anti Government Alpine, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    Obama lied about obamacare? Wow! (sarcasem)

    This is amazing news except it was the tea party back in 2008-9 that trumpeted the lies the president sold as fact.

    Romney is nothing but closet liberal anyways. We really don't need much advice from a proven loser. He would not know conservatism if it drove over him. He was busy saying anything he could to appeal to as many as he could. Ultimately people saw through the bunk and did not vote for the chameleon.

    Granted he would he would have been better than obama but then again that isn't saying much considering how incompetent this idealogue administration is. Everything is theoretical fantasy and time after time we see that nothing this administration recommends or implements actually works.

    Financial reform? Complete farce. Corporations now pay to plays as much as ever before and they are bigger than ever.

    Healthcare reform? They literally built and intended for this to fail so they can ram universal healthcare down your throat after it all collapses.

    Now he is taking credit for an improving budget outlook/savings but sequestration which he totally denounced is the only reason it is improving!!

    Lies, lies, and more lies.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    rvalens2, What he failed to say is that that percentage equates to 15 million people. That number is not exactly true. No one knows right now what the number is for people who had individually bought insurance who will have to change.

    If it were to climb to 15 million what a horrible indictment of the old system that allowed 15 million people to buy insurance that first of all would be canceled the first real claim they had and secondly covered very little. That kind of coverage works until it doesn't and then the holders basically join the millions of non insured who were the prime motivators for the ACA in the first place.

  • Moabmom Moab, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    Wow! So much hate directed at the Tea Party by both the Dems and the establishment GOP. I would expect that from the Dems, but it really exposes the fact that the rinos are no different from the Dems. That's why they can't stand the Tea Party. The establishment GOP are making a big mistake by vilifying their base, but they don't care, not even Romney. They are fools. The GOP is the only party that forms the firing squad in a circle and then wonders why they didn't win.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    The Tea-Party reminds to much of Monty Python and the Holy Grail ---

    See as both the loosing Black Knight who thinks he is "invincible" ,
    and the villagers trying to burn a young girl (one of their own) for having a wart therefore being a witch.

    Keeping going,
    You don't realize that the whole world is laughing AT you.

  • wazzup Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    You can blame Obama on the apathy of republican voters. Mitt may not have been the 'perfect' candidate but he was/is better than the current president. But because the Republican idealogs stayed home and didn't vote, they actually cast a vote for Obama.

    The repubs can't point fingers at anyone other than themselves!

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    To: Gandalf...your choice of words speaks loudly as if you are a Democrat . Mitt Romney was not dishonest - he was truthful and the Democrats don't like the truth, they prefer to cloud everything over with false pretense and they did do a good job on Romney and the American people and continue their socialistic beliefs today. I believe it will not last long. Because of this last debaucle the American people have had their eyes opened.

  • apm22 sparks, NV
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    Mitt Romney is now in class with Christie, McCain, McConnel, Boehner, etc (well, honestly, Mitt has been in their class all along - based on his record of flip flopping and support of big government). I feel better for switching my "party" affiliation to "Independent" a couple weeks ago. So disgusted with the Republicans.

  • Nextime ,
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    bikeboy, Romney is a fiscal conservative. He took a debt of $3 billon in MA and left them with a $2 billion surplus when he left offive.

    I am glad to know you realize Cruz is a RINO. As for McCain, he was never a good candidate to begin with.

    The TEA party types ARE our problem. We lack the votes to win elections on our own and they want to run candidates that are unapealing to the cross over voters we need to win. Then when the TEA types don't get their candidate, they then turn around and don't vote for our candidate.

    No wonder we lose. Our lack of UNITY is KILLING us.

    Given our inter-party division... it is amazing that Romney did as well as he did. He nearly defeated Obama. He only needed an additional 342,000 votes to win the election. Most of you that criticize Romney don't even know the election was that close.

    Romney could be one of our best Presidents.

    I know one thing, short of another run by Romney, which he has currently ruled out, we are dead in the water for 2016. We have no one.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    Destroyed? How come he didn't win?

  • Nextime ,
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    Mrkj, You do realize that Obama will have added more debt by the time he leaves office that the first 43 Presidents combined. Obama has no plan to fix our economy.

  • Nextime ,
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:13 a.m.

    MIke in Sandy, Oh yeah... you mean the debate where Romney DESTROYED Obama !!!!!! EPIC. Obama should have stayed at home.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    I don't worry about Mitt's tax returns or "offshore accounts." That's his business and between him and the IRS. However, by backing a RINO liberal like Chris Christie, he's showing just how out-of-touch with reality he actually is now. The "Tea Party" people seem to be the only folks working to actually represent American taxpayers and workers, while people like Mitt live in a world of upper-crust political cronyism.

  • generalno PLANO, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    It was difficult to support McCain and Romney in the last two presidential elections but they were the least offensive of some terrible choices. I've concluded the GOP no longer has the necessary grit. If they foist another lame, soft-headed nominee on us, I guarantee I'll vote Libertarian. Seems the nation now needs to collapse, a la Greece, strip off major unnecessary departments, e.g., Education, Energy, Environmental Protection, Commerce, et al., and simply start over. On the other side of the aisle, dear leader hasn't the brains (corp., corps, corpse) to lead such a big organization and seems capable only of reading speeches from teleprompters.

  • Nextime ,
    Nov. 4, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    @MIke in Sandy, Mitt released a summary of taxes for 12 years. Btw, just an FYI theie is no requirement to release tax records.

  • bdckpakccd Plano, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    While I do wish Mitt Romney was the President right now, he was never my first choice. I am still hanging in there for someone who has read, studies and understands the constitution to actually STICK TO IT! These moderates will be shocked when they learn that conservative principles solve a host of problems for the federal government. They place those problems squarely upon the shoulders of the states, who can solve them (or ignore them) in their own chosen way. The citizens can vote with their feet.

    Mitt, I'm disappointed. And if you think Chris Christie is a shining light, UGH!

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    The tea party has been abandoned by the main stream Republicans and is following the Canadian born Senator leading the radical extreme house.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    When one is born in another country and the birth was not recorded (as some Canadian births in the 1930 era) that person needs to submit proof that their parents were US citizens. That information is either their birth certificates, or lacking that, family history and geneology records. AS one who had to prove citizenship, by family records, one can testify that the process involves intense scrutiny by US immigration officials before US citizenship is confirmed. Too many are ignorant of the laws governing citizenship - thus ignorant statement that Mitt's father was a Mexican citizen.

  • sid 6.7 Holladay, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Mit Romney = 15 Minutes = Over = Go away Mit!

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    Mike in Sandy,

    The IRS has seen his returns...and if they haven't, I'm pretty sure, as Obama's attack dogs, they would have paid Mitt a visit by now. Stop being silly.

  • baddog Cedar Rapids, IA
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    I think there are some selecttive memories at play here. Regardless, the current president has lied time after time, regardless of what his local syncophants want us to believe.

    If as in days of yore when the media today was halfway the watch dog of government, we'd have had more of an idea where each candidate really stood. In the old days when journalists weren't members of one party's fan club, we had reporters who did investigate and did report what was really what.

    Not so today. The media shills for the current administration and his political party.

    I've identified with the Republican party all my life until the last few years. I can hardly identify with my country anymore. I suppose there were those in the Revolutionay War days who thought the patriots were too radical as well.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    I voted for Mr. Romney and would do so again. However, the media trashed his image and many people stayed home. The number of Republican voters was way down. The Repubicans need to change their image and yet stay morally on the right path. We now have a modern day version of Les Miserables playing out before our very eyes. The guillotine is right around the corner and with it fiscal responsibility.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    Red Shirt - you may replay Romney's speeches and interviews while he was running for President. The questions was asked of Romney if he believed Obama was born in Hawaii - and he said "yes".

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    James - one can be born in Canada yet be a US citizen if both parents are US Citizens.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Nov. 4, 2013 8:02 a.m.

    "I've kept my healthcare plan. So have everyone I've talked to about it.
    So what was the lie?" - Ernest T. Bass

    Pragmatistferlife has it right. Just because you didn't lose your health care plan doesn't mean others didn't. An Obama spokesman recently said, "It's only about 5% who are having their current insurance plan canceled." What he failed to say is that that percentage equates to 15 million people. No small figure in my mind and more than enough people to tip a Presidential election; hopefully, the next one.

    So again, the LIE was: "You can keep your insurance, nobody is going to take it away from you." Now, do you still believe Obama didn't lie? Or is the next line going to be, "Well he didn't realize all the possible ramifications that could come about."

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    The GOP should consider that they have offered up Sarah Palin, John McCain, Mitt Romney, plus several gong show acts in the Senate. The 'best' of the Grand Old Party is the BEST reason to vote Democrat.
    The next president, Hillary Clinton, can thank the buffoonery on the other side for her victory.

    The republican party is a rudderless ship, headed downwind in the wrong direction, and nothing can save it ...not the way it is now.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:52 a.m.

    First, Romney has no room to talk. None. We can list his deficiencies, including his inability to tell a straight story throughout the campaign. Second, he needs to be honest that he is the godfather of Obamacare. Deny all you like, but it's a fact. Third, the election is over and you lost, Mitt. Have the class of George W. Bush. You are in the world of Dukakis and McGovern. Nobody really cares what you think. You couldn't even pull your own party together, let alone pull from the majority party.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:48 a.m.

    Well, I think there is a little bit of "sour grapes" in Mitt's comments about the Obamacare roleout. While some current plans don't meet the minimum standards resulting in some cancellations, it is a stretch to say that the President was dishonest about it. It is naive to believe that the needed reformation of the curent dysfunctional healthcare system won't have some glitches in it. When are we going to wake up and recognize that the current healthcare system is way too expensive and the outcomes of the current care are worse than what many other countries achieve where the cost is about half that of the American system. The real "elephant in the room" is the cost of the existing system which is NOT sustainable. While the President's approach isn't perfect, it is a step in the right direction. Sitting on our behusters and accepting the staus quo with the Hosptials, Homecare Companys, Insurance Companys and Healtcare Providers bleeding us to death with their unjustifiable fee structures and profiteering is not the answer either!

  • Nonconlib Happy Valley, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:44 a.m.

    Romney accusing Obama of being dishonest? Now there's a case of the pot calling the kettle black. And those commenters who are defending Romney's honesty need to go back and check his statements during the election campaign. He was rated far lower than Obama on honesty and earned several "Pants on Fire" awards. The most honest of the candidates? Jon Huntsman.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    Counter Intelligence says;

    Ernest T Bass
    "I've kept my healthcare plan. So have everyone I've talked to about it.
    So what was the lie?"

    Millions have had their policies cancelled
    Its not all about you

    Counter, the millions you refer to represent somewhere around 5% of those who had health insurance previous to the ACA, and a substantial part of them purchased those policies since the enactment of the law knowing (they and the insurance company) that they didn't comply with the law.

    yea, 5-10% do consist of million(s), a couple maybe a few more, that's compared to the 280 million who not only keep their insurance but are seeing a decrease in the rate of premium increase.

  • bigv56 Cottonwood, CA
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    Mitt is right about Obama being a liar,but if he wouldn't have tried being all things to all people and maybe not been such a thurston Howell he would have won
    T

  • RBB Sandy, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:00 a.m.

    Lets elect more people like Romney and Hatch. That way we can go over the cliff more slowly than the Democrats want to go. Remember, it has taken 34 years under Hatch to amass $17, 000, 000, 000, 000, although $12, 000, 000, 000 has been in the last 13 years. The idea of only spending what we have is just way too radical.

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 7:00 a.m.

    The Tea Party is helping Hilary become the first women president. Keep it up and they will also give President Obama a democratic house of representatives. Everything the Tea Party is pushing will become fodder for the midterm election and the Presidential elections. Keep pushing Tea Party - you have become the best hope for the democrats. Conservative talk radio is dying based on the extreme positions they spout - and the Tea Party follows.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    redshirt007
    Clinton supporters started the birther movement - so it is fundamentally dishonest to simply blame the tea party. Feigned claims of oppression are tedious yet indicative of left wing hypocrisy

    Ernest T Bass
    "I've kept my healthcare plan. So have everyone I've talked to about it.
    So what was the lie?"

    Millions have had their policies cancelled
    Its not all about you

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:54 a.m.

    When Romney turns on the tea party in Utah, the tea party is over.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:51 a.m.

    Our party has not learned much from the last election.

    why give this man time on any show? He is the one trick pony that did not attract enough to win the election. Why go back to him or what he has to say?

    Certainly we can and must do better. The only redeeming part of this is Mitt and Tea Party are mentioned in the same article.

  • DGDENTON Gainesville, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:44 a.m.

    Mitt represents the dying "old guard" of the Republican Party. If they are successful at casting out the Tea Party movement, the Republican Party will continue to be just a watered down version of the Democratic Party. There is little difference in the two political parties.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:40 a.m.

    Although I supported Mitt Romney for President, he is wrong in his assessment of what the Republican party needs for a candidate. The Republican Party could indeed survive without the moderate wing of the party but it could not survive without the tea party. Chris Christie would not be a candidate for the nomination because he would not get the support of the party base. Even Ann Coulter who supported Romney would not support Christie now. Paul Ryan would be the closest to being someone would could bridge the gap between the moderate wing of the party and the tea party. There are others, including Ted Cruz who would have a chance, but not Chris Christie. As far as the shutdown, this was the fault of Harry Reid and Barack Obama. To sit and complain that it was the fault of Republicans is nothing more than a false narrative that Romney is buying into with no basis of reality. We cannot compromise with Reid and Obama when they have no intent to compromise unless we totally submit to their failed policies, and that would destroy our economic base. Romney should have known that.

  • randyclapper Elyria, OH
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:29 a.m.

    Mitt and Christie in 2016 sounds like a great ticket to me!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:20 a.m.

    @RockOn
    Spanish Fork, UT
    Cruz is eligible to be president just as John McCain was. Natural born American has been defined by Congress numerous times and is NOT just about where the person was born. (McCain was born in Panama.) So long as one parent is a US citizen, Congress in the last 200 has unanimously agreed this get the spirit of what the founding fathers meant. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and many others weren't born in the USA... no such thing then.

    So don't fret about Cruz. History and precedence is on his side to any constitutional scholar and lawyer.

    7:07 p.m. Nov. 3, 2013

    =========

    So don;t fret about Pres. Obama --
    Are you NOW willing to admit you were all wrong,
    and that even IF Barrack Obama was born in Kenya
    [which we all know he wasn't - he was born in Hawaii - birthers] - that Obama is just as "American" as Ted Cruz?

    The double standard hypocrasy by the fa-right is astounding.

    BTW - Mitt Romney's Father George was Mexican.

  • BBobb GARLAND, TX
    Nov. 4, 2013 6:05 a.m.

    Christie, Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisc.; former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; and Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla. These are your picks for the next Republican nominee for the President of the United States? Come on Mr. Romney. I supported you to the end. Reaching across the aisle has created the problems we have now. We need someone with a backbone in there. Not someone that is willing to roll the Constitution up into a cigar and smoke it with his buddies.

  • Clinton Draper, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 5:35 a.m.

    @Mike in Sandy - Obama was caught on camera lying about Benghazi and his Rose Garden speech, was caught on camera colluding with the moderator, and was also caught on camera using a plant during the second presidential debate. So both cheated. What's your point? Also, you can complain about Romney's tax records just as soon as I see a non-forged birth certificate and Obama's college transcripts.

    @Gandalfo Such as?

    Regarding the article, Mitt is wrong. The shutdown was the Democrats doing as well. Probably more so than the Republicans. The Republicans put forth every available option for the Democrats to keep the government open. All they had to do was defund an unpopular law which is based on a pile of lies, but they wouldn't do it. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are the only ones who did anything right, in my opinion, but that may simply be because I'm not a government mooch.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2013 4:32 a.m.

    Mitt is right about the understated fundamental dishonesty of Obama by a level of 5 or 6 levels.

    Why are the wealthy trying to deprive the people of their rights and will? This is no longer the state of the nation where business is going to have the upper hand in deciding our future and our economy. Business had its chance to work with the people but they have violated that trust and its our, the peoples, turn to take over again and set this country back on its path of greatness.

    Business and government has proven they don't care about this country and its citizens. Whether they like it or not the first thing we will ahve to accomplish is destroy the bond of government and business, they are not compatible or remotely workable conditions to sustain a democracy and Constitutional nation with a working free enterprise economy.

    Sharing the wealth is not a democracy, nor is welfare dependence a right. Only the people have rights, business and government are not given individual rights by Constitution or bill of rights.

    God bless the citizens of America and hoping to share a cup of tea without being spied on.

  • jr85 United Kingdom , 00
    Nov. 4, 2013 2:57 a.m.

    A moderate with common sense solutions to problems........Jon Huntsman 2016??? Just a thought

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 11:30 p.m.

    Which Romney will we see tomorrow? He's the king of flip-flopiness. Moderate Republican. No, no, severe conservative. No, well, maybe the severe conservatives are wrong. The Massachusetts health care system should be a model for the U.S. No, it shouldn't be. Well, it should be, but only for each state. My goodness. Has the man ever been consistent in his life? Guess what he says depends which way the wind is blowing day to day.

  • Zaruski SLC, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 11:18 p.m.

    Ha! Mittens "I will not let fact checkers run my campaign" Romney talking about honesty! Now that's a riot!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:38 p.m.

    So is romney on the right side of the republican party, or the wrong side?

  • hamaca Baton Rouge, LA
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:26 p.m.

    "Mitt Romney goes after Tea Party"? Really? The article refers to him disagreeing with the tactics used by Cruz and Lee. That's not going after the Tea Party. Also, he didn't endorse Christie, just commented that he looks to be one of the stronger candidates.

    I also love when articles are about Obama's dishonesty, rather than defend the indefensible, folks tend to play the "well, he did this" game of transference.

    Did somebody actually bring up Romney's taxes here? He's not running, just being interviewed and asked questions.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:20 p.m.

    I've kept my healthcare plan. So have everyone I've talked to about it.
    So what was the lie?

  • james d. morrison Boise, CA
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:09 p.m.

    If that is true about Cruz, then what was the hullabaloo about whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii? If all it takes is to have a parent that is a citizen, then it wouldn't have mattered if Obama had been born in Kenya or anywhere else since his mom was a US citizen.
    Also, I think Tea Party members are the RINOs. The moderates in the GOP are representing what the GOP has always been.

  • redshirt007 tranquility base, 00
    Nov. 3, 2013 10:02 p.m.

    So the t-party was openly mocking the office of the president and the constitution as they claimed Obama was born in Kenya therefore illegitimate as president for the first 10 years of his presidency. I see. They are strangely quiet now.

    It's ok for Ted Cruz to have been born in Canada because his mother was an American citizen... but not Obama, nope, it's all about Obama's father.

    Romney also used Obama's birth certificate as a political weapon. So where is Romney's honesty? Where are all the republicans apologizing for mocking Obama's birth certificate.

    It was never any question his mother was a citizen either. That's the most dishonest tactic I've ever seen and just one of the reasons I can never be a republican again.

  • T. Party Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    @Ernest T. Bass

    "If you like your health-care plan, you'll be able to keep your health-care plan. Period."

    It wasn't Romney who was going around saying this. It was Obama.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 3, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    Romney's political philosophy is similar to Utah weather. If you don't like it, just wait a day.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 9:22 p.m.

    Ernest T. Bass

    "How was Obama dishonest on the ACA when the ACA is essentially Romneycare?"

    Obama lied - period

    Any reference to Romneycare is obfuscation

  • T. Party Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 9:13 p.m.

    @airnaut "I have $100 that says the birther's [sic] will suddenly become silent."

    Speaking of which, you never paid up the last time you bet your bottom dollar. (Avenue H -- remember?)

    My message to Barack Obama (and his followers) is: don't make a promise if you don't intend to keep it.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 8:47 p.m.

    How was Obama dishonest on the ACA when the ACA is essentially Romneycare?

  • Kiboo South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 3, 2013 8:25 p.m.

    Many of the responses here epitomize the total disconnect when it comes to politics. The issue is Obama lied - plain and simple. Something to the effect of "you can keep your plan, no questions asked, period". And he said it on many, many occasions. We now know that what he said was a complete fabrication.

    If Romney or Bush or anyone else lied in the past - shame on them. I personally cannot stand liars. But that is not the issue here. The issue is that our president lied. Plain and simple. Period.

    Unfortunately integrity doesn't seem to matter in American anymore. Obama, in an effort to pass his signature health plan, lied to the American public. Whether or not Obamacare is good for America remains to be seen. But what is clear is that the plan passed because of an outright lie - and half of the country doesn't seems to care. And for Obama supporters to give our president a get-out-of-jail-free card, when the facts are crystal clear, is disheartening.

    Without integrity, which both parties lack, the disconnect in Washington DC will never be fixed.

  • benjjamin Vancouver, WA
    Nov. 3, 2013 8:09 p.m.

    What did George Washington say about political parties (republican, democrat, etc...)?
    They are our country's worst enemy.
    They perpetrate the most horrid enormities and are a frightful despotism.
    They lead to a more formal and permanent despotism.
    They create disorders and miseries.
    Gradually, they incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual.
    Sooner or later they result in the ruins of public liberty.
    They always distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration.
    They agitate the community with ill founded jealousies and false alarms.
    They foment occasional riot and insurrection.
    They open the door to foreign influence and corruption which facilitates access to the government through the channels of party passions.
    They result in the policy and will of one country to become subjected to the policy and will of another.
    Rather than encourage and embrace political parties, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion to mitigate and assuage the spirit of party.
    A fire not to be quenched, they demand a uniform vigilance to prevent their bursting into a flame, lest instead of warming they should consume. See George Washington's Farewell Address.

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 7:48 p.m.

    "One of Cruz's parents was a United States citizen therefore he is a United States citizen."

    It's only wrong if you're not a Repub/TeaParty member.

  • Shane333 Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 7:43 p.m.

    @ DHC 01,

    You make some good points, but much of what hurt Romney with fiscal conservatives wasn't balancing the budget in MA so much as his endorsement of Romneycare, which undermined Romney's criticims of Obamacare. Yes, it was Constitutionally on better ground at the state level. Still, it was a form of socialism.

    Second, Romney's own words against the 2nd Amendment really hurt him among Constitutional conservatives.

  • Shane333 Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 7:38 p.m.

    I used to think highly of Romney, but his attack on the Tea Party and endorsement of Christie damages Romney's credibility as a true conservative. Sure, he would have been better than Obama, but that isn't saying much considering how low Obama has set the bar. Had Romney been more conservative he could have won much more of the Republican base, many of whom chose to stay home than to vote for Romney. In trying to hard to play to the middle, Romney forgot his base and that hurt him in the election.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 7:33 p.m.

    The key to a successful Republican presidential candidate is NOT someone who can reach across the aisle. Bush was successful in reaching across the aisle while as governor of Texas. Why isn't this ever a trait needed in a Democrat? Obama never reaches across the aisle. It's his way or no way.

    The key to a successful Republican candidate is one who has a vision and can get the public to see (and agree with) that vision as well.

    The main conflict isn't reaching across the aisle. It's the media. The media controls the opinion of an increasingly ignorant populace. Most people run on low information and don't take (or have the) time to find out what's going on. That is further damaged by news sources which have become glorified bloggers (take note DesNews), rather than investigative scoops.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 7:07 p.m.

    Cruz is eligible to be president just as John McCain was. Natural born American has been defined by Congress numerous times and is NOT just about where the person was born. (McCain was born in Panama.) So long as one parent is a US citizen, Congress in the last 200 has unanimously agreed this get the spirit of what the founding fathers meant. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and many others weren't born in the USA... no such thing then.

    So don't fret about Cruz. History and precedence is on his side to any constitutional scholar and lawyer.

  • O'really Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 3, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    @ Mike in Sandy Yes, Mitt's tax reports were released. He paid taxes every year. On to the next myth or false conspiracy against the Romneys?

  • DHC 01 Vinyard, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 6:57 p.m.

    I actually watched the full Romney interview on MTP today. So, I'm not commenting on hearsay or the limited information this article provides. It's clear that the comments written here are coming from the extremes in this country that are tearing it apart. The tea party and liberals who refuse to blame Obama for ANYTHING.

    President Obama sold a lie for 3+ years about how Obamacare would work. And it turned out to be fundamentally not true. Yet, people are commenting about Romney's taxes, cheatinng on a debate and calling Romney the liar? Unbelievable. Will democrats take accountability for anything? Or, is the flawed website Bush's fault too?

    And to the Tea Party, Mitt had a $3B deficit his first year as Governor of Massachusetts. He turned it into a $700M surplus his last two years in office without raising taxes. If elected, he would have gotten our country's finances in order without raising taxes or completely gutting the government. Nuff' said. If you think Romney is not a fiscal conservative...then you haven't done your research.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Nov. 3, 2013 6:42 p.m.

    jpc53

    Cottonwood Heights, UT

    To Jim Morrison. One of Cruz's parents was a United States citizen therefore he is a United States citizen.
    5:38 p.m. Nov. 3, 2013

    =======

    Who is not a "naturally" born citizen.

    He has a Canadian birth certificate.

    I have $100 that says the birther's will suddenly become silent.

  • agb Layton, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 6:36 p.m.

    Mike in Sandy:

    It is up to those leveling accusations to prove wrongdoing. Harry Reid still hasn't been able to prove it, and you can't either.

    So you either don't understand the system
    of justice we have or are parroting the baseless accusations Harry Reid and the left have leveled against Romney.

    So this isn't about Romney's campaign dishonesty. It's about your intellectual dishonesty.

  • bikeboy Boise, ID
    Nov. 3, 2013 6:33 p.m.

    Too many old-school Republicans give more lip service to "working across the aisle" (with Democrats who have no interest in compromise), and too little lip service to conservative principles, at least fiscally speaking.

    This long-time disaffected conservative will GLADLY support a true fiscal conservative over the wishy-washy RINO types - Cruz, Romney, McCain, Orrin Hatch.

    It may be too late to save our economy, but continuing to pile more debt on the house of cards is NOT the answer!

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 6:29 p.m.

    mikey and jimmy,
    calm down. mitt isn't running again and your boy continues to run the country into the ground. you might worry more about barry than mitt.

  • The Judge Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 6:13 p.m.

    Wait a sec...isn't Romney the guy who said he was a "severe conservative?" I guess Romney was lying, huh? And Chris Christie is a moderate along the lines of McCain and Romney. Un-freakin'-electable.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Nov. 3, 2013 6:08 p.m.

    Obama outright lied to our nation to get re-elected. Romney would not have been perfect but would have been much better then Obama. The last two Presidents have been in over thier heads.

  • postaledith Freeland, WA
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:58 p.m.

    Every time I see a picture of Mr. Etch-a-Scetch, I am very grateful that Brack Obama is our president and he isn't.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:52 p.m.

    Anyone seen Mitt's tax returns yet? Everyone is asking. Just wondering...
    Fundamentally dishonest? So what's up, Mitt?
    Show us so we back off.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:48 p.m.

    Mitt's got a lot of nerve calling anyone fundamentally dishonest.
    He was caught--on camera, no less, pulling notes from his pocket as he slyly rounded the dais at the first Presidential debate, then slipping them into his sleeve after.
    Notes were specifically not allowed. Mitt should go away.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:48 p.m.

    "Obama's 'fundamental dishonesty has really put in peril' his second term in the White House, Romney said."

    Romney just proved that HE is the dishonest one.

  • O'really Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    @ Gandalf Provide us examples of those "so many things".

  • play by the rules SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:40 p.m.

    Romney's stance against the tea party, many of whom supported him, makes me glad he did not get elected. Thank you senator Lee for standing strong. If Chris Christie is the best the GOP can do I will find a new party.

  • jpc53 Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:38 p.m.

    To Jim Morrison. One of Cruz's parents was a United States citizen therefore he is a United States citizen.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:35 p.m.

    Mitt Romney's insights are helpful. Universal and affordable health care are a given but Mr. Obama seems to blame Romneycare for his own mistakes. The tragically partisan fashion in which the ACA was formed has been met with equally tragic partisan opposition and the American people are the ones who suffer the consequences.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 5:05 p.m.

    I would rather save the Nation than the Republican Party. RINO Republicans continue to break the Eleventh Commandment: 'Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.' The party is mostly run by self-serving Moderates and Progressives who will allow our freedoms to erode and our economy to collapse as they watch from the sidelines waiting to get a majority. And when anyone dares to stand up and try to act on principle they shout them down and call for 'rehabilitation.'

    What could Mr. Romney mean by saying 'Obama's "fundamental dishonesty has really put in peril" his second term in the White House...?' Does he meant that Obama will not be well thought of after he is gone or that someone in the House of Representatives is drawing up the Articles of Impeachment?

  • Don't Feed the Trolls Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 4:41 p.m.

    I'd reword it as our citizen's fundamental greed, gullibility and laziness got Obama elected, but that's just me.

  • redshirt007 tranquility base, 00
    Nov. 3, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    Really? Obama's dishonesty.

    Romney basically denied he was the first person to ever implement mandatory health insurance coverage and insurance pools.

    That's just plain rich.

  • MAYHEM MIKE Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 4:03 p.m.

    @Gandalf: Your dredging up Romney's so-called "dishonesty" (which you haven't a shred of evidence for) doesn't disprove the truth of his report on Obama and his outright misleading (OK, lies) of the voters. I weep when I realize we could have had a distinguished, competent and transparent American President capable of "reaching across the aisle" instead of the pick of the low-information electorate.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Nov. 3, 2013 3:47 p.m.

    Gotta love how Mitt Romney slams the Tea-Party...

    I guess that makes him a full-blown RINO too.

  • Mrkj Allen, TX
    Nov. 3, 2013 3:42 p.m.

    It would be well for Mitt to acknowledge the dishonesty of Republican party leaders as well. It was the Republican administration of George W. Bush and the Republican majorities in the Congress who passed tax cuts, while increasing spending on defense and wars as well as social spending that created the largest deficits the country had ever seen up until that time. The Republican passage of Medicare Part D with no planning for how to pay for it other than deficit spending is fundamentally dishonest to taxpayers and those who think Medicare will be there for them in the future. The Romney-Ryan budget that Mitt campaigned on was built on deficit spending for many years. Isn't deficit spending fundamentally dishonest in robbing future prosperity for current appetites? Who besides the Tea Party folks are really trying to demand fiscal responsibility and fiscal honesty in Washington?

  • Gandalf Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 3, 2013 3:33 p.m.

    "Obama's 'fundamental dishonesty has really put in peril' his second term in the White House, Romney said."

    That's funny. A lot of people, me included, say your fundamental dishonesty on so many things during the 2012 presidential campaign kept winning that election.

  • james d. morrison Boise, CA
    Nov. 3, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    Wasn't Ted Cruz born in Canada anyway, so he's not eligible to run for president? What am I missing here? The Tea Party was great for getting back control of the house, but they cost the GOP the senate with incapable candidates and it was Tea Party candidates', (Mourdock et al) gaffes that turned the 2012 presidential election into a ridiculous campaign on women's rights.