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Published: Sunday, Nov. 3 2013 2:55 p.m. MST

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Layton, UT

Mike in Sandy:

It is up to those leveling accusations to prove wrongdoing. Harry Reid still hasn't been able to prove it, and you can't either.

So you either don't understand the system
of justice we have or are parroting the baseless accusations Harry Reid and the left have leveled against Romney.

So this isn't about Romney's campaign dishonesty. It's about your intellectual dishonesty.

Everett, 00


Cottonwood Heights, UT

To Jim Morrison. One of Cruz's parents was a United States citizen therefore he is a United States citizen.
5:38 p.m. Nov. 3, 2013


Who is not a "naturally" born citizen.

He has a Canadian birth certificate.

I have $100 that says the birther's will suddenly become silent.

DHC 01
Vinyard, UT

I actually watched the full Romney interview on MTP today. So, I'm not commenting on hearsay or the limited information this article provides. It's clear that the comments written here are coming from the extremes in this country that are tearing it apart. The tea party and liberals who refuse to blame Obama for ANYTHING.

President Obama sold a lie for 3+ years about how Obamacare would work. And it turned out to be fundamentally not true. Yet, people are commenting about Romney's taxes, cheatinng on a debate and calling Romney the liar? Unbelievable. Will democrats take accountability for anything? Or, is the flawed website Bush's fault too?

And to the Tea Party, Mitt had a $3B deficit his first year as Governor of Massachusetts. He turned it into a $700M surplus his last two years in office without raising taxes. If elected, he would have gotten our country's finances in order without raising taxes or completely gutting the government. Nuff' said. If you think Romney is not a fiscal conservative...then you haven't done your research.

Idaho Falls, ID

@ Mike in Sandy Yes, Mitt's tax reports were released. He paid taxes every year. On to the next myth or false conspiracy against the Romneys?

Spanish Fork, UT

Cruz is eligible to be president just as John McCain was. Natural born American has been defined by Congress numerous times and is NOT just about where the person was born. (McCain was born in Panama.) So long as one parent is a US citizen, Congress in the last 200 has unanimously agreed this get the spirit of what the founding fathers meant. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and many others weren't born in the USA... no such thing then.

So don't fret about Cruz. History and precedence is on his side to any constitutional scholar and lawyer.

Springville, UT

The key to a successful Republican presidential candidate is NOT someone who can reach across the aisle. Bush was successful in reaching across the aisle while as governor of Texas. Why isn't this ever a trait needed in a Democrat? Obama never reaches across the aisle. It's his way or no way.

The key to a successful Republican candidate is one who has a vision and can get the public to see (and agree with) that vision as well.

The main conflict isn't reaching across the aisle. It's the media. The media controls the opinion of an increasingly ignorant populace. Most people run on low information and don't take (or have the) time to find out what's going on. That is further damaged by news sources which have become glorified bloggers (take note DesNews), rather than investigative scoops.

Cedar Hills, UT

I used to think highly of Romney, but his attack on the Tea Party and endorsement of Christie damages Romney's credibility as a true conservative. Sure, he would have been better than Obama, but that isn't saying much considering how low Obama has set the bar. Had Romney been more conservative he could have won much more of the Republican base, many of whom chose to stay home than to vote for Romney. In trying to hard to play to the middle, Romney forgot his base and that hurt him in the election.

Cedar Hills, UT

@ DHC 01,

You make some good points, but much of what hurt Romney with fiscal conservatives wasn't balancing the budget in MA so much as his endorsement of Romneycare, which undermined Romney's criticims of Obamacare. Yes, it was Constitutionally on better ground at the state level. Still, it was a form of socialism.

Second, Romney's own words against the 2nd Amendment really hurt him among Constitutional conservatives.


"One of Cruz's parents was a United States citizen therefore he is a United States citizen."

It's only wrong if you're not a Repub/TeaParty member.

Vancouver, WA

What did George Washington say about political parties (republican, democrat, etc...)?
They are our country's worst enemy.
They perpetrate the most horrid enormities and are a frightful despotism.
They lead to a more formal and permanent despotism.
They create disorders and miseries.
Gradually, they incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual.
Sooner or later they result in the ruins of public liberty.
They always distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration.
They agitate the community with ill founded jealousies and false alarms.
They foment occasional riot and insurrection.
They open the door to foreign influence and corruption which facilitates access to the government through the channels of party passions.
They result in the policy and will of one country to become subjected to the policy and will of another.
Rather than encourage and embrace political parties, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion to mitigate and assuage the spirit of party.
A fire not to be quenched, they demand a uniform vigilance to prevent their bursting into a flame, lest instead of warming they should consume. See George Washington's Farewell Address.

South Jordan, Utah

Many of the responses here epitomize the total disconnect when it comes to politics. The issue is Obama lied - plain and simple. Something to the effect of "you can keep your plan, no questions asked, period". And he said it on many, many occasions. We now know that what he said was a complete fabrication.

If Romney or Bush or anyone else lied in the past - shame on them. I personally cannot stand liars. But that is not the issue here. The issue is that our president lied. Plain and simple. Period.

Unfortunately integrity doesn't seem to matter in American anymore. Obama, in an effort to pass his signature health plan, lied to the American public. Whether or not Obamacare is good for America remains to be seen. But what is clear is that the plan passed because of an outright lie - and half of the country doesn't seems to care. And for Obama supporters to give our president a get-out-of-jail-free card, when the facts are crystal clear, is disheartening.

Without integrity, which both parties lack, the disconnect in Washington DC will never be fixed.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

How was Obama dishonest on the ACA when the ACA is essentially Romneycare?

T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

@airnaut "I have $100 that says the birther's [sic] will suddenly become silent."

Speaking of which, you never paid up the last time you bet your bottom dollar. (Avenue H -- remember?)

My message to Barack Obama (and his followers) is: don't make a promise if you don't intend to keep it.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

Ernest T. Bass

"How was Obama dishonest on the ACA when the ACA is essentially Romneycare?"

Obama lied - period

Any reference to Romneycare is obfuscation

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

Romney's political philosophy is similar to Utah weather. If you don't like it, just wait a day.

T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

@Ernest T. Bass

"If you like your health-care plan, you'll be able to keep your health-care plan. Period."

It wasn't Romney who was going around saying this. It was Obama.

tranquility base, 00

So the t-party was openly mocking the office of the president and the constitution as they claimed Obama was born in Kenya therefore illegitimate as president for the first 10 years of his presidency. I see. They are strangely quiet now.

It's ok for Ted Cruz to have been born in Canada because his mother was an American citizen... but not Obama, nope, it's all about Obama's father.

Romney also used Obama's birth certificate as a political weapon. So where is Romney's honesty? Where are all the republicans apologizing for mocking Obama's birth certificate.

It was never any question his mother was a citizen either. That's the most dishonest tactic I've ever seen and just one of the reasons I can never be a republican again.

james d. morrison
Boise, CA

If that is true about Cruz, then what was the hullabaloo about whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii? If all it takes is to have a parent that is a citizen, then it wouldn't have mattered if Obama had been born in Kenya or anywhere else since his mom was a US citizen.
Also, I think Tea Party members are the RINOs. The moderates in the GOP are representing what the GOP has always been.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

I've kept my healthcare plan. So have everyone I've talked to about it.
So what was the lie?

Baton Rouge, LA

"Mitt Romney goes after Tea Party"? Really? The article refers to him disagreeing with the tactics used by Cruz and Lee. That's not going after the Tea Party. Also, he didn't endorse Christie, just commented that he looks to be one of the stronger candidates.

I also love when articles are about Obama's dishonesty, rather than defend the indefensible, folks tend to play the "well, he did this" game of transference.

Did somebody actually bring up Romney's taxes here? He's not running, just being interviewed and asked questions.

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