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Published: Thursday, Oct. 31 2013 11:30 p.m. MDT

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Ben H
Clearfield, UT

Isn't the reason we let Milsap and Big Al go was to have the money to keep Favors and Hayward. I guess that didn't work out so well. The Jazz should have traded Hayward and kept Milsap.

ricecakes
Murray, UT

GH: Greedy. Me: Disappointed.

Tyler Ray
Taylorsville, UT

Smart move for Dennis, Hayward usually has a couple of months per season of all star numbers but the rest is just decent. He has to be the leader of this team! We'll see what he's capable of. If he proves he's worth the money than the Jazz will surely sign him.

Carnak
Salt Lake City, UT

Finally people are waking up to the obvious. Hayward is a nice player but nothing more. Max money for him is a joke.

fortydam
OREM, UT

You got to admit he's gambling on getting better. He isn't close to being the best player on this team, and certainly not the best shooter. I think he has his eyes on Boston. I also agree that he might have his highest trade value right now. I have a feeling this kid isn't going to be a consistent shooting threat. My hunch is that he's peaked in his potential. Do the Jazz want him as a facilitator or a shooting threat? If he isn't shooting by February, then deal him. His game reminds me a little of AK. Lets not make that mistake again. All of this talk about Jimmer still puzzles me, I understand that he played great in the BYU system, but he hasn't made the jump to NBA player. I have a friend in the Kings area that follows them. They like Jimmers shooting, but he's getting schooled bigger players. He can hit threes all day, but if he can't defend a NBA size guard then he will not succeed. Ian Clark is a deadly shooter, but his size kept him out against that giant Thunder lineup.

Aaron38
Payson, UT

Is it about the money or the ego? It would be best if players didn't know what other players on the team were making. I'm satisfied with my salary, but if I knew how much others in my company were making I'd probably do the same thing GH and his agent are doing.

joe5
South Jordan, UT

hahahahahaha!!! Like I've been saying all along. Jazz are creating a losing culture here in Utah. Somehow Lindsay has convinced fans he can acquire all-star players at discount rates and the gullible fans believe it. They see the growth of OKC but ignore the current problems that franchise has with keeping players.

Next offseason, regardless of what happens with Hayward, the Jazz will face exactly the same issues with Kanter and Burks. If they keep hitting at 50%, they will keep losing or trading players stockpiling young players from the draft and missing the playoffs every year because they will be in perpetual rebuilding mode.

I hope I'm wrong but that's what I've been predicting ever since the GS trade when the Jazz folded their cards for this season. I expect to see the same thing next season.

Man in Charge
Chihiuahua, 00

Joe5 if your content with Mediocrity, Go cheer for the Nuggets or the Nets. 8th seed in the playoffs is good enough for you and they won't disappoint.

Rippinjazz
Magna, UT

Simply amazing what greed does to a person. Now he thinks he is Lebron?
The Jazz said they would "like' him to become the face of the franchise. It is up to him to prove he is worthy of that honor. So far he is a long way from being a max player. To qualify for that kind of money, he should be averaging 18-6-6 on this crappy team. He can't even do that.
After watching Weds. game, I would not pay him what Favors rec'd.

Very disappointing.... let him go. We should have drafted Paul George anyway.

Real nice Hayward.......

Tators
Hyrum, UT

Paul George just signed a 5 year $90 million extension. And since he was taken 1 pick after Hayward in the 2010 draft, his agent somehow thinks Hayward should get some sort of similar deal. But as much as I'm a big Hayward fan, he is not the same caliber player as George. I believe he'll find that out next summer unless some team does something totally unrealistic and pays much more than he's worth. Stranger things have happened, but is not likely in this situation.

Of course Hayward could still somehow elevate his game to an all-star level this season... again not likely. But if he somehow does, then his risk of not signing now will pay off. Had the Jazz paid what his agent is asking, they would be taking a risk very similar to what they took with AK-47 in which they got burned quite badly.

Good players need to keep in mind there is a significant difference in market value between what they are worth and what teams are willing to pay for all-stars. It's the law of supply and demand.

Jazz Source
Alpine, UT

Hayward has been listening to his agent too much. He is no Paul George.

Where was Hayward when our team made a run to get back in the game against OKC? He was watching from the bench as Alec Burkes reeled off 13 of 15 Jazz points. Then Hayward came in made a couple of poor shot selections, 50% FT's, and a turnover.

This league is about scoring. You don't deserve max money if you can't carry your team offensively and Hayward clearly does not have the ability to do that every night.

No worries though. After this season without Jefferson, Millsap, and Foye to take defenses off of him Hayward will wish he would have taken what the Jazz offered him because now defenses will be on him as supposedly our #1 offensive option.

His stats are not going to be great not to mention all the losses and he will be the posterboy for it.

This is a guy you want on your team but he will never be THE guy. Jazz can always match and worst-case it won't be much different than what Haywards inflated head wanted already.

Unfortunate greediness.

The Final Word
Alpine, UT

This is real simple.

There are alot more Hayward type players than their are Favors type players.

Long athletic defensive Centers are very hard to find. Small forwards are more common. Hayward is a good all around player but lets not forget the last big mistake the Jazz made overpaying an all around player who was not durable/capable enough to carry a team offensively.

AK was an awesome player and could pile up the stats in multiple categories but you simply have to have top tier offensive players who can carry your team to compete and those are the players that get the big money.

Hayward is a nice piece but he is not THE piece. He should not get paid much if any more than Favors. Besides Alec Burke has a rare skill of getting to the line and can get hot enough to carry a team. I rarely see that happen with Hayward.

Alec is cocky and confident enough that he could be borderline star. Hayward is way to reserved and quiet to be THE guy. Just not in his makeup.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ Joe5:

I'm convinced you're absolutely wrong about the Jazz management "creating a losing culture" with the team. What they are doing is creating a smart culture by following a solid plan that will entail stepping back a year or possibly two to get in position to become a very good team... something more than the mediocrity that most NBA clubs usually accept with short-term plans only.

Paying Hayward what his agent is asking would seriously hamper their plan to take full advantage of the extra deep talent level in the 2014 draft and also the above average level of free agents that will be available next year. As it is right now, they will have a significant amount of salary cap space to take advantage of those conditions next year, which will set them up with a young, talent laden team for years into the future, starting with their multiple first round draft picks supplemented with a couple of solid free agents next year.

Personally, I think it's a very astute move of Jazz management to stick to their plan and not let some unrealistic player agent derail it.

podunk utah
DRAPER, UT

send him packing, any team that takes him has a sucker for a GM

40. cal
West Jordan, UT

Who even cares. All the Jazz do is rebuild. They start to get a good team and then they let them all go to rebuild. I think the Jazz should be sold.

Kiboo
South Jordan, Utah

Let's see if he can prove that he is worth the amount of money he is requesting. Kudos to the Jazz for making him prove his worth rather than just giving it to him.

By the way, he will make more in a year or two than I will in my entire lifetime. I HATE the attitudes of these yahoos; and to think they make ungodly amounts of money boils my blood. I would much rather follow college sports - any college sports, than pay for an NBA's athlete's exorbitant life style.

scalman
Temecula, CA

I'm guessing that Hayward is not greedy. I'm guessing that secretly he wants to remain with the Jazz, but he has left it completely to his agent to do contract negotiations. For those of you who say Hayward is not Paul George, wait a couple of years. George was lucky to be drafted into a more experienced group of teammates. In two years the core four will have much more experience. Gordon, think long and hard on this one. You can always fire your agent if you have to next summer.

mjllindsey
west valley, UT

There you have it. Now how does Jimmer look. Cheeper by the point. That oklahoma three point shot could have made a difference, that's what you must think. You see there is a place for shooters. clutch time very important. Natural shooters where are they? Just keep listening to u of u big mouths, And lose your chances. Adversity can make a man stronger. I see Jimmer hasn't given up. He might take less just to be given a chance. $$$$$

mjllindsey
west valley, UT

Go Jimmer

louisiana jazz man
Dubach, LA

hawks are already talking about offering him a contract. next up kanter?

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