Card is a fascinating person with great insights.His stance on
homosexuality is hypocritical and those quotes (posted here) are
disappointing.What's written in this interview makes sense to me. I
deplore Political Correctness and equate it with an inability to think
critically. The Internet has given rise to legions of Intolerant who bully and
ostracise (eg. Feminism being the most vocal, feminism means woman as much as ku
Klux Klan means white). So Card can be criticised for extreme prejudice toward
homosexuals.People need to put effort into condemning all prejudice. When
you hear "reverse discrimination", say "hypocrite".
"violence against women", say "sexist". "we need 50% of"
say "bulldust". "black lives matter", say "racist.
Everybody's lives matter". Look past trivialities (eg genitals).Without special need (disabled, elderly, pregnant), no special treatment
should be given (eg. No jobs based on gender, especially quota filling). Sites
that promote prejudice (eg. The Verge) should be labelled as "prejudiced and
not suitable for children" using WOT.
He uses these words to describe others: repressive, punishing,
self-contradictory, asinine, irrelevant, silly, idiotic, boneheads, intolerant,
arch-fanatical puritans, extreme, hate-filled, polarizing, babbling, annoying,
foolish. He uses these words to describe himself: positive, honest,
in control, self-contained, thinking, communitarian.Hmm, I wonder
how he can describe himself in those terms when he demonizes large groups of
people he doesn’t know.
The more I read about Orson Scott Card, the more impressed I am with him. As an
aspiring writer, I'm bookmarking this article for future reference. His dedication and drive to perfecting his craft is inspiring and
@Palad --"1. The right to insurrection is claimed for the people
in the US Declaration of Independence."Suuuuure. That's why
all those Confederate States were allowed to peaceably secede from the Union
without armed conflict -- right?;-)"2. When a
government or society tries to teach our children that immorality and sin are
normal...""immorality and sin" according to who? Sorry,
Pafad, but this isn't a theocracy. Your personal view on morality
doesn't get to win over everyone else's."3. It's
called hypocrisy - claiming to believe one thing while living another."What hypocrisy? Gay people claim to believe in equal rights for all
citizens. There is no hypocrisy there."4. Alcoholics would be
second-class citizens according to your reasoning"Why?
Alcoholics have the same rights as anyone else does. Oh, except for gay people
-- who are still denied the right to marry."5. Agreed, just as
laws against other undesirable behaviors should."So, according
to you, there ought to be laws against overeating? Laws against smoking? Laws
against watching too much TV?In this country we restrict rights and
privileges when actions convey a significant risk of harming other people. But
gay marriage doesn't harm anyone.
Contrariusiest,1. The right to insurrection is claimed for the people in
the US Declaration of Independence. "But when a long train of abuses and
usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them
under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."2.
When a government or society tries to teach our children that immorality and sin
are normal, they threaten the integrity and sovereignty of our families.3.
It's called hypocrisy - claiming to believe one thing while living
another.4. Alcoholics would be second-class citizens according to your
reasoning, and there is more scientific evidence for a genetic link to
alcoholism than there is to homosexuality. All laws restrict behavior of some
sort, especially when that behavior poses a risk to a portion or the whole of a
society, or has the potential to do so. The disruption of the family unit, from
any source, is a seditious threat to any society, and must be treated as
such.5. Agreed, just as laws against other undesirable behaviors should.
" They’re repressive, punishing, intolerant of the slightest
variation.... "This, from a man who has spent years being
intolerant of gay people and actively trying to repress their civil rights??Here's a few statements from Card --1. Gay marriage and
the Federal government: "Regardless of law, marriage has only one
definition, and any government that attempts to change it is my mortal enemy. I
will act to destroy that government and bring it down..."-- He
didn't say "vote the bums out of office" or "we'll get em
at the next election" -- He said "DESTROY" that government "AND
BRING IT DOWN".-- That's insurrection, folks.2.
Married gay people: "They steal from me what I treasure most".--
How do gay people steal anything?3. Gay people in church: "They
are wolves in sheep's clothing, preaching meekness while attempting to
devour the flock."-- Seriously?4. Gay people as citizens:
"those who flagrantly violate society's regulation of sexual behavior
cannot be permitted to remain as acceptable, equal citizens within that
society."-- Yup, second class citizenship for gays.5. Gay
people and the law: "Laws against homosexual behavior should remain on the
books..."Yet Card feels entitled to complain about intolerance
His best book is "Speaker for the Dead." IMHO. OSC is an excellent
writer. Glad he is open to discussing his thoughts. Highly skilled. Let him
"And as my politics diverged from the political correctness that has
captured the left — I mean, (in) 1976 I was a Daniel Patrick Moynihan
liberal Democrat — and without changing any of my principles, I’ve
now become quite a right-winger in the eyes of the left. And I’m a little
baffled by it because I’m a liberal and they’re not. They’re
repressive, punishing, intolerant of the slightest variation, absolutely the
opposite of what it means to be a liberal. But that’s the way it goes.
They still get the label. I am the fact of what it meant to be a liberal. I find
the most liberals who feel like I do among people who are labeled as
conservatives. It’s a very odd thing."Geez, I thought I
was only one, the last of my tribe! And here is another. We need to take our