Good reminder from ute fans that they beat both BYU and Stanford by not allowing
a TD on the final drive of each of the games. Puts BYU in pretty good company
-- apparently Stanford v. BYU would be a GREAT bowl match-up and very evenly
matched. And considering that BYU has righted the offensive ship since that
game, Taysom and co. would have their way with the Stanford D and it would most
likely be a comfortable win for BYU.
I would kill to see BYU play a full 60 minutes on offense and not take their
foot off the gas. Look at the play calling in those prolific 1st halves and you
see a nice mixing of runs and passes on 1st and 2nd down. There is no
discernable pattern and it keeps the defense off balance. In the
2nd half play calling gets ultra conservative and you see a heavy dose of
"run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, pass or run on 3rd and long,
punt".It's really not that hard to figure out. Go back and
watch the games. Bronco has stated publicly he'd rather win close game than
a blow out. It seems like it's been a team philosophy since he's been
HC to get a small lead by half time and then in the 3rd quarter hand the game
over to the defense and special teams to win much like in baseball when the
Manager pulls the starting pitcher in the 6th or 7th and hands the ball to the
bullpen to close out the game.Makes for some seriously boring
BYU is better than Utah. That is why BYU is ranked higher than Utah LOL.
@ Christopher B:If you can actually remember when Utah last
"enjoyed significant BCS glory", then you must be a lot older than most
of us thought you were.Because right now, most significant BCS
football programs are looking at the Utes as somewhere between an embarrassment
and an "LOL"... (the way you always sign off your BYU obsessed
comments). But then again, because Utah has been contending for their conference
cellar spot each and every year since joining, that's perfectly
@ Chris B:Your bet about BYU winning individual quarters in their
rivalry games with Utah is absolutely correct. In fact, BYU has statistically
beat Utah in the number of first downs and also more offensive yardage in 3 of
the last 4 games they've played. Only a special teams play and/or bad-timed
penalty has been the only differences in the outcomes. It's no wonder Utah
fans storm the field whenever they're fortunate enough to pull out such
close wins. It appears in video replays that Chris B is leading that charge with
the most relieved look of all their fans. Interesting that that is
so obvious to even a hardcore Ute fan. Just a few minor tweaks and BYU will soon
be owning Utah.
Peeples has raised the right issue, but addressed it with conjecture, when an
easy review of stats would quickly provide the answer. Do an analysis of the
game tapes, comparing first and second down play calls in the first half and the
first and second down play calls in the second half of each of the last five
winning games (not counting Houston for the reason stated by Peeples). You will
see that in the first half BYU's offense is throwing the ball on 1st and 2d
downs, but at the beginning of the 3d quarter with a lead the offense runs the
ball on 1st and 2d down, leaving 3d and long far too often, putting pressure on
improving but still only a sophomore THill to make critical 3d and long pass
plays to keep a drive alive. Anae is afraid to keep the "petal to the
metal" on offense at the beginning of the 2d half with a lead.
In basketball, when the opposing coach calls a time out, Dave Rose switches his
defense from zone to man to man or vise-versa. He nullifies the other teams
adjustments.Perhaps two game plans need to be prepared for a single
opponent. One for each half. The other team adjusts to what we did in the first
half and they come out and none of their adjustments work because we are not
doing that any more. Through in a little triple option just for the fun of it.
Almost anything to through them off guard.
@ChrisBChristy The utes are so much further from going to a bcs bowl
this year than the cougs are. There actually still is a slim outside chance
that if the cougs win out they could get into a BCS bowl, however there
literally is no chance the utes will play in the coveted "rose" bowl. It
might as well be a unicorn or a Pot O'Gold at the end of a rainbow to you
guys! What cracks me up the most is your constant blather about how
awful the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl is, but as recently as last week you wrote
"I am starting to warm up to a rematch at the hunger bowl" Haha you
don't even have a chance to get into that one! 2 straight years couch
bowling. Must be miserable.
As stated Coach Mendenhall makes significant defensive adjustments at half time.
Why would we not think the opposing coach does the same thing? This would give
a partial explanation why the second half is more defensive leaning.
Its interesting how EVERY football article commentary becomes a U vs Y contest.
Anyone remotely objective can tell how deep that rivalry goes.
Despite U fans continual crowing about PAC membership, a poll last spring showed
their most passionate game is against BYU. "In the original Twitter poll
conducted by the blog Ute Football Central, 64 percent of respondents said they
would prefer a rivalry win over a bowl season."Its obvious that
MANY U fans are more against BYU than they are for Utah. That suggests that
their motivation as fans will diminish without BYU on their schedule. Eliminating BYU from their schedule will prove to be a big mistake for the U,
and given conference mediocrity, interest and attendance at U games will
decline. But I'm guessing as Utah dwells in PAC and national
obscurity, the fans who are more anti Y than pro U, will continue to brag about
their conference. Its an interesting study in why people brag -
about anything. It makes me wonder if those "fortunate" enough to get a
ticket on the great and wonderful Titanic were still bragging to someone while
bobbing in the ocean.
I find Teeples articles to be very insightful and not nearly as
"homerish" as other DN sports writers. He seems to include much more
constructive criticsm of the team that I find refreshing. I thought this article
USC third-stringers and walk-onJust showed Utah they are the bottom of the
Can't wait to see Wisconsin treat byu like the non-AQ WAC school they are.
Wisconsin, just like Utah, has enjoyed significant BCS glory the
last decade and that very well may continue under Gary Anderson.byu's "quests" will likely continue to end in game 1 or game 2.
Even if the playoffs had been going, with a loss to Virginia, your
"quest" would have been over just the same.Go Wisconsin!
@ Uteology.pardon me I was look @ the sagarin rankings.But they
still have 3 quality wins and two losses with 2 other decent wins in there.
Anae lacks offensive imagination and is unable to adjust to the opponent's
defensive adjustments made at halftime. You can call it going conservative if
you like but it's still the same thing - failure to mix up the play calling
to keep the defense off balance.I fear this lack of creativity will
cost BYU the game at Wisconsin as BYU won't be up by 3 touchdowns at the
Ryan Teeples is right on with this article. Many of us have been wondering the
exact same thing. Opponents seem to make Defensive adjustments at the half, as
BYU’s offense comes out in the third quarter with their patented “3
and out in less than a minute.”An article yesterday noted that
BYU’s Defense seems to be getting more tired because of the increased
amount of time they are on the field this year. When your offense is on and off
the field in one minute (due to the “go fast go hard 3 and out”),
there isn’t much time to take a breather. Even KVN talked about that
he’s tired. The “bye” week couldn’t have been more
timely.While hoping otherwise, this “first half only
offense” will lead to two more losses at Wisconsin and Notre Dame if it
continues. BYU has to play consistent offensive football for all four quarters
to beat either of those teams.Query: Could BYU sell ½ game
ticket packages for ½ price? We’ll buy tickets for the first half of
all home games!
Uteology"Keep dreaming that you were one quarter away from a
win."No dreaming required; the BYU-Utah game wasn't decided
until the final play of the game.Sure, BYU needed to complete a Hail
Mary pass on the final play to send the game into overtime, but any fan who says
that's out of the realm of possibility in this rivalry, either doesn't
know anything about the rivalry, or is just blowing smoke.
UteologyBYU beat THREE teams that are ranked higher than Utah in the
BCS (Houston, Texas and Georgia Tech), plus Boise State, a team Utah has never
beaten in 4 tries since the Broncos became an FBS program. BYU also thumped a
Utah State team in Logan, that Utah barely slipped past in RES, with the help of
some questionable PAC 12 officiating.Despite your always frantic
spin: BYU is ranked 28th in the current BCS standings; Utah is
ranked a distant 45th.Obviously, the rest of the country isn't
nearly as impressed with your record as you are.
BeSmartCheyenne, WYlolI am glad that is 6-2 BYU team can
beat the higher quality opponents on their schedule while struggling during 1
quarter.Too bad those two bad losses they couldn't have had better
third quarters.oh well 6-2 against the 21 SOS is pretty good.-------------Higher quality opponents on your schedule, who would
that be? Current BCS rankings:#31 Houston W#33 Texas W#42 Georgia Tech W#45 Utah L#55 Boise State W#78 Utah State
W#79 Middle Tennessee W#89 Virginia LSo you beat TWO
teams that are significantly better (+10 ranking) than Utah at this point in
time. Struggling in one quarter? Let me jog your memory. BYU
hasn't lead in ANY quarter against Utah since the 2011 beat-down by a #109
ranked offense at home. Keep dreaming that you were one quarter away from a
win.BYU is playing good and will have a chance to prove it self at
Too smart......I'm one of many fans who is with the author on
this. We see the great potential of this offense in the first half over the last
several games only come to a standstill after halftime. So yeah, we DO expect 4
qtrs of potent offense. The let-up after the break almost cost us in the Houston
game and WILL cost us against better teams. The fact that we are seeing a
pattern here is concerning. It's like both Anae and the offensive line
decide to take a nap after the break. I would like to see Hill audible out of
the called play more often, especially in the 2nd half.
If BYU wants to play conservatively and eat up clock in the second half, how
does it help to "go fast, go hard?" When you're going 3 and out,
doesn't the fast pace just give the ball to the other team several more
times? Seems more like they're employing a "go fast, go easy"
strategy in the second half, and if they are bent on being conservative, they
should at least "go slow, go hard" and eat up the clock.I'd like to see the killer instinct until the opponent is very safely put
away. The author is right that a conservative approach without a dominant lead
will come back to bite the Cougars, sooner or later. With Wisconsin
approaching, sooner seems more likely with that approach.
Here's the difference between BYU and Utah - BYU wins the 1st two quarters
and the game, while Utah loses all 4 quarters and the game. But hey, the Pac-12
patches are cute.
Taysom explained clearly why in last week's post-game interview - he stated
that the play calling got "conservative". That is the coaches - Anae
& Bronco - plain and simple. It is unbelievable.
My guess is that the offense is trying to go a little conservative and eat the
clock in the second half. But when they try to slow it down a bit they lose
their rhythm and things come to a screeching halt. Were it me,
I'd add a second-teamer every series but keep up the frenetic pace.
Robert Anae's play calling is the reason for 2nd half offensive woes. Even
Taysom Hill said after the last game that the play calling became too
conservative in the 2nd half.
@ solobe careful logical arguments or math are not understood by some
I think as long as BYU keeps winning, no one will complain about the difference
in offensive production. The worry is that a team will come along and
capitalize to the point that we find ourselves behind in the 4th. It happened
in Houston and we pulled it out but it's risky in a game that relies so
much on momentum. It's hard to just turn things on and off. With just a
few minutes left before half time against BSU, I said that I'd feel more
comfortable if we had one more score knowing the tendency to let up in the 3rd.
It turns out we got a turnover and got 2 scores after that. I agree that
keeping it going longer is easier said than done but certainly something to look
Chris B"That's like a BYU fan, brag about winning one or
two quarters."It's interesting that Utah fans don't
apply this same logic to the entire season; winning one or two games is nice,
especially if one of them is against your biggest rival, but wouldn't it be
even nicer to be better for the entire season?Of course, when
you're totally obsessed with BYU, beating BYU is the season; nothing else
matters. Beating Stanford was just frosting on the cake, another chance for a
dig at BYU. Unfortunately for you, the meltdowns against Arizona and USC
destroyed that narrative.
That's like a Utah fan that says "Mark it down" all the time,
predicting wins that never happen and "going to the Rose Bowl."Has Oregon sold out their stadium for the Utah game, Chris B?
Ok, here’s my own take on BYU’s second half blues. With games in
which they are ahead (this season) after halftime, BYU starts to play
conservatively. They want to run out the clock sooner. And it’s not
because they are BYU with its “Christian” spirit of not wanting to
run up the score. The truth, personally, is that they lack the confidence in
playing well consistently. They seem to believe that sooner or later they will
stumble and become vulnerable, in addition to being mistake/penalty prone. So
they resort to running the ball and just wanting to sustain the drives - not
really want to score. In doing so, they become lethargic in play calling and
execution as well. I noticed this at the Boise State game. The Houston game was
different because it was a back and forth game. C’mon BYU play a full game
of football every time.
lolI am glad that is 6-2 BYU team can beat the higher quality opponents on
their schedule while struggling during 1 quarter.Too bad those two bad
losses they couldn't have had better third quarters.oh well 6-2
against the 21 SOS is pretty good.
Why is it that other teams are allowed to use the reason that BYU made
adjustments at halftime that slowed their offensive production but the same
standard doesn't apply to BYU? Don't both teams make adjustments? So
it turns the game from an offensive show to a defensive slug-fest....so what?
Even though they didn't reach the first half production the Y still is
out-scoring or tying the other teams second half production so why are you
inventing issues?I guess you need to bark about something. First it
was that BYU couldn't pass; now it's that they don't score as
much in the 2nd half as the 1st half. My, what's next?Also,
keep in mind when the offense scores easily at the start of the game the team
seems to think they've already won and they rein in the horses a little.
That's a human reaction that is natural. We've seen others do it,
too, like USC settling for field goals but yet the point spread and margin of
victory kept expanding.If you think BYU football is low scoring,
maybe you ought to watch soccer.
That's like a byu fan, brag about winning one or two quarters.In fact, I'll bet there are some individual quarters in the last 4 years
of rivalry games that byu "won"LOL!
Unfortunately I think that this has something to do with wanting to ease off of
the pedal too early. I would like to see a game where BYU does not let off the
pedal at all. But, I think that the likelihood of BYU holding down the pedal and
securing a blowout is about as high as BYU running a trick play.