Published: Wednesday, Oct. 30 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
So far, the only people I've seen crying are conservatives.
Oh good!Using this very same argument then all those who voted for
Reagan and/or Bush cannot complain about the economic situation nor the debt,
since these 2 Presidents are most responsible for the current plight we're
in. This would essentially eliminate 99.9 percent of what is said on fair and
balanced news and AM radio! Complaining about the debt and economic
situation even though you voted for Reagan and Bush is merely, crocodile tears!
As John said, maybe we will learn from our experience? Maybe
we'll learn from the anti-tax, anti-regulation, and "trickle down
economics" that this only hurts most of us while enriching the very few.
Maybe next time we won't reelect a President who sends us to 2 wars while
handing out tax cuts (which mostly benefit his rich friends).
"peer through campaign rhetoric that is designed to deceive a gullible
electorate for the sake of retaining power."I suppose that you
bought into Romney's campaign promises that he would- lower tax
rates by 20% across the board- increase military spendingAnd
still manage to - balance the budgetAnd he would give you all
the details right after he was elected.Newsflash. Politicians will
say anything to get elected, even Republicans.
Crocodile Tears?Is that sort of like listening to Utah Republicans
complaining about Senator Orrin Hatch and voting for him time and again anyway
after 35 years?How about cheering on Mike Lee threatening a
Government shutdown, and then crying like little babies about it when it
actually happens?How about voting for GW Bush and then complaining
about;Federal Spending, WallStreet Bail Outs, NSA spying, Endless un-funded Wars, and complete economic meltdown, and high
unemployment?BTW - I didn't vote for Obama [or Bush, or
Clinton, or Bush Sr.] in any of the elections for the last 30 years, but they
are/were STILL my Presidents, just as they are yours.
It's _way_ too early to be declaring the ACA a failure or a success.What we do see is that for most people who have to buy health insurance
privately (a tiny % of the population), the states that cooperated in the
creation of insurance exchanges are doing well, and that states that refused to
participate are experiencing problems getting its citizens signed-up.Some people who have had cheap "catastrophy-only" policies are
discovering that these substandard policies don't meet ACA minimum
requirements, and so yes, a tiny number of people are "losing" their
health insurance. But they can sign up for much better health insurance
policies at prices much better than were previously available, or never
available, to them.Conservatives just hate hate hate the ACA, and
now they're angry angry angry that people are having trouble signing up for
This letter is the kind of discourse we do not need. What good can come from
it? Every president elected in my lifetime has been liar to one degree or
another. What is the point? Politicians are politicians.
Other than the registration problems, I'm quite pleased with ACA so far. My
insurance has changed, but my daughter who couldn't get affordable
insurance for her young family now has it. I think it's going to work.
I did not get what I voted for. Single payer health care.
Question for people like the letter writer.Would you rather the ACA
be a colossal success or a complete failure?Be honest.
Ok, and those who voted for Reagan and the Bushes have no right to complain
about deficits and massive war costs.
Real Maveric,Barack has added 7 trillion to the debt. That's
almost as much as every other president in the history of our country combined.
Barack is a failure.
I'm not complaining or crying, nothing changed for my health insurance
which is a very common insurer round these parts. I work for a small business
with 3 diabetics on staff, with various degrees of ongoing health challenges and
our insurance went up a small % which it has every year for the last 15 or so. I
have used my insurance once, for a dislocated shoulder I couldn't manage to
get back in myself. Total bill was less than 2 months premiums. Should I complain about my good health and luck in avoiding bankrupting
accidents? As a member of society I'm glad my premiums can offset
those who haven't been so lucky, and it really is just luck.Nope the only Crocodile tears’ seem to come from rabid radio fans second
hand hearsay and unsubstantiated, "I know a guy, who's mother's
sister had a cousin who's premiums went up 1,000,000%.
I can't believe that vote matters.
RanchHand is right. You will never see any of Obama's supportive posters
complain about ANYTHING the great Obama does. That would be make them a
heretic.They will support WHATEVER Obama does... no matter what.
They won't acknowledge any problems or criticize anything Democrats do, no
matter what goes wrong.
Complaining about the ACA is boring.Suggesting alternatives or
improvements to the ACA is cool.Deseret News, don't publish
boring letters -- choose to be cool.
Hutterite,How did you vote for Single-Payer Healthcare? I didn't
see that on the ballot.Obama supporters also claim they voted for
the ACA. I never saw the ACA on any ballot either. People keep claiming they
voted for it, but I don't think so. You can vote for Obama, but that
isn't the same as voting for the ACA.Last time I checked only
people in Congress got to vote for or against the ACA. And we're not in
Congress... so we probably didn't get to vote for it, or against it. We
may have voted for a REPRESENTATIVE who promised to vote for/against it... but
that's not the same as actually voting for/against ACA, or Single-Payer
healthcare, etc.And just WANTING something, or campaigning for
something (like Single-payer government healthcare) isn't the same as
actually voting for it.IF you really want single-payer government
healthcare... quit your job and you will eventually qualify for Medicaid (which
IS Single-Payer Government Healthcare). If you really want it so bad...
it's already available. But most working people don't seem to WANT
to switch to Medicaid.
Chris B - How much of that $7 trillion was mandatory, non-discretionary spending
that was in place before Obama took office? That is not a rhetorical
question, please answer it with an actual number. If you refuse to answer or
can't do honest research to find that number, you really have no business
throwing blame around for debts and/or deficits. I am not an Obama
fan, I vote third party; but reckless statements such as yours need to be
reigned in. Please, do some independent research and you'll find out who
was truly behind the lion's share of that debt spending.
@2 bits.I see left leaning folks, liberals and others complain all
the time about specific reasons they are displeased with Obama.What I
don't see is unfounded rhetoric parroted from their radios without so much
as looking up the misinformation they gleefully post day after day.Right above your post is an example: Hutterite said: I did not get what I
voted for. Single payer health care.A little further up-Open Minded
Mormon said: BTW - I didn't vote for Obama [or Bush, or Clinton, or Bush
Sr.] in any of the elections for the last 30 years, but they are/were STILL my
Presidents, just as they are yours.Nope the radio fans seem to use
faith over logic and hate in place of reason.I see well thought out
comments from most of the above posters who may point out the hypocrisy of the
"right" in defense of what they acknowledge isn't the only or best
answers to problems the country faces, but at least it's an attempt to fix
a problem instead of obstruction and status quo.Obama is not a
religion, even though the right has cast him as the devil.
Heretic,Do you realize that when you just ASSUME that any thought
that's critical of Obama MUST have come from the right-wing radio
conspiracy... you make your comment sound totally partisan and hollow?Even "Right-Wing" people CAN have their own thoughts. Not every
criticism of Obama comes from the oft blamed but mostly fictional Right-Wing
Radio conspiracy. Obama IS a religion to SOME people. Global
Warming IS religion to SOME people. Party politics ARE like religion to some
people.As for the "even if you didn't vote for him,
He's your President" comment... I agree with that. But were you
saying the same thing when many Democrats nationally and many of the people who
post their support for Obama in the DesNews every day were the same people who
couldn't accept Bush as their President, either because they didn't
vote for him, or because they were convinced that IF enough appeals would have
been allowed there would have been a way to make Gore the winner, or Kerry the
winner??If you DID post the same sentiments back then... I respect
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