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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 30 2013 9:57 a.m. MDT

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RockOn
Spanish Fork, UT

The Targeting rule needs to be adjusted. Keep in mind Targeting as a verb requires volition -- you target someone only by carrying out an intent. What Skyler did was a noun -- a classification from a result -- his helmet hit the other guys helmet regardless of intent. The verb action should be an ejection. The noun action should be 15 yards the same as if you were in the middle of tackling someone, didn't notice the sideline and end up hitting them slightly out of bounds.

DC
Alexandria, VA

Targeting - hate that rule. Everything is easy to do in slow motion - try not hitting the other guy in the helmet when he's running full speed at you and you don't know if he is going to duck his head or not. Players are taught to get low and hit low - with this new rule, they're just going to have to stand straight up and hope they can bring the runner down.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

The first game of the season is essentially coming off a bye week too, as there is extra prep time. Yes, the other team has it as well, just as two teams can meet in the regular season with both coming off bye weeks.

So lets look at byu's two "bye" weeks

1. byu lost to Virginia, a team that hasn't beaten another Division 1 team all year. LOL

2. byu lost for the fourth time in a row, leaving van noy, Hoffman, and others winless in their careers against their rivals. LOL

It seems bronco would be wise to spend a little less time worrying about the devotional coming off a bye week and a little more time about, you know, playing football.

Just a suggestion.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Yeah Chris B
Utah has to worry after playing BYU to. 4 games after the game
2013 1-3
2012 1-3
2011-1-3

Abeille
West Haven, Utah

Chris B -
Nice to see you're still 'keeping up' on the B.Y.U. sports programs! I can honestly say your diligence in reading everything related to Cougar sports shows your continued love of and loyalty to the Cougars! You're an inspiration! After all, who in their right mind would read article after article of a team they despise? No one - that'd be crazy.

Once again, thank you for your continued support of B.Y.U. I thought I was a Cougar fan, but I, as a fan, am NOTHING compared to you! Keep up the good work!

P.S. - maybe Bronco can fit you in to one of the firesides. As the super Cougar fan you are, you'd be a perfect fit.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@BeSmart,

Yes, pac 12 competition is tough.

Most Pac 12 teams > Utah > byu

If WE struggle in the Pac 12, and byu can't beat us, just think how terrible byu would be if we invited them to the Pac 12(we wont)

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ Chris B
you can not say what BYU would do.
According to the experts BYU would be 6th in the conference.
Right according to Sagarin ,AP and BCS
Could BYU be worse sure, could they be better sure.
Truth is BYU is improved from when they played Utah (that is a fact), BYU has played against good competition (SOS is greater than most power conference teams, except Pac-12)
Utah is a good (improving) program, but they are really struggling right now and would not beat many good teams.
Utah beat Stanford and it was a great victory, but Stanford beat UCLA and OSU.
So your point that Most Pac-12 teams are greater than Utah which are greater than BYU make no sense.
Oregon>Stanford>UCLA>OSU= Utah>Stanford>UCLA>OSU
Doesn't make sense right?
No one knows how BYU would stack up, to guess is hilarious.
Do you back the experts? or the results of one game?
That is an unintelligent argument.
Truth is BYU 6-2 against #21 SOS, and Utah 4-4 against #4 SOS.
Pretty good (partial) seasons.

Just the FAX
Olympus Cove, Utah

christy

"The first game of the season is essentially coming off a bye week too, as there is extra prep time."

You quite obviously don't have a clue about the dynamics of a bye week.

Bye weeks are all about resting players and getting them healthy, but more importantly, it's a time for adjustment, a time to review strengths and weaknesses, a time to figure out what's working and what isn't, a time to fine tune schemes and techniques in order to get better.

Broncos' record clearly demonstrates that he's very good at improving his team throughout the season. Each of his three 11-win, Top 15 seasons began with 1 or 2 disappointing losses in the first three weeks, but after the 3rd week, Bronco was 29-1.

Kyle's record, by comparison, shows no improvement throughout the season.

Bronco:
Aug/Sept - 23-16 (59%)
October - 25-9 (74%)
Nov/Dec - 32-4 (84%)

Kyle:
Aug/Sept - 27-11 (71%)
October - 22-14 (61%)
Nov/Dec - 25-11 (69%)

Let's not forget that Kyle LOST, at home, to a 10-loss Colorado team, at the end of the season.

Pollsters are more forgiving of early season losses.

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

@Chris B

Oh I get it.

Eastern Washington > Oregon State > Utah

Good thing you don't compete in the Big Sky.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

Chris,

BYU's record versus the rest of the PAC-12 has been fine. We all know Utah has the ability to beat BYU. Utah has proved that. Utah can't win more conference games than they lose. Utah has also proved that. If BYU were in the PAC-12 instead of Utah, BYU would be more competitive. BYU has greater depth. BYU rarely loses to bad teams. The only bad team prior to this year Bronco has lost to was last year's 5-7 Utah Utes. Virginia and this year's incarnation of Utah would only mark three loses to sub par teams if trends continue.

Utah on the other hand has lost to EVERYBODY in the MWC and a pathetic Colorado team in Utah that had not won a road game in over two years.

I loved the Utes victory versus Stanford. That win gave fans hope that the Utes had finally rounded the corner. The Utes then lost to Arizona and worse still a USC team that had to play an intern walk-on to get enough bodies on the field. BYU would have beat both those teams.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Dumb rules on targeting rule. Why didn't they ncaa do the same to those pac12 ref who blew it on this Wisconsin vs ASU game? That way they should have never come this u vs BYU game!

SportsFan
Orem, UT

chris b

"Yes, pac 12 competition is tough.

Most Pac 12 teams > Utah > BYU"

Saying it, doesn't make it so:

Versus PAC 12 Teams
Bronco 9-8 (53%)
Kyle 12-18 (40%)

Bronco is 2-0 versus Washington, a team Utah has NEVER beaten - Kyle is 0-2
Bronco destroyed Oregon 38-8; Kyle will get destroyed by Oregon
Bronco humiliated UCLA 59-0; Kyle lost at home to UCLA 27-34

It's obvious which coach would be competitive in the PAC, and which coach is only a pretender.

benjoginko
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Chris B,

I have a question for you. If you aren't a BYU fan why do you spend so much time reading BYU articles and posting on them. I can't imagine wasting my time reading UofU articles. I like the Utes to win when BYU isn't playing them as I want all BYU Opponents to do well as it helps our strength of schedule. I just can't imagine having so much time on my hands to waste trolling other teams news articles and comment boards.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

1978,

You forgot one team

Eastern Washington > Oregon State > Utah > byu

LOL!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

JustFAX,

"Broncos' record clearly demonstrates that he's very good at improving his team throughout the season."

It also demonstrated he focuses a little too much in the offseason on the upcoming devotionals than he does to getting ready for the first 3 games of the season right?

And bragging about "improvement" doesn't mean a whole lot in and of itself when your baseline is "Well we are usually really bad to start the season but then we get better"

Wouldn't starting the season well and continuing the same be better than starting poorly like bronco and then "improving"?

LOL!

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

The bye week will help in preparation. What a big game for BYU. It's certainly winnable. BYU is getting better with each passing week. IMO

It's somewhat unfortunate that BYU is locked into a bowl already. It would be nice to have the opportunity to play, or win, there way into a bigger/better bowl, but that's the way it is as an independent. I guess you take the good (scheduling flexability) with the bad (very limited bowl opportunity).

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

Chris B

The records speak for themselves.

Kyle - one great undefeated season, but only one Top 15 finish, only one conference championship, and losses to every bottom dweller in the MWC, and already well on his way to losing to every bottom dweller in the PAC - 8-15 so far in the PAC.

Bronco - three very good, 11-win, Top 15 seasons, twice as many 11-win seasons since 2006 as the Utes have had in their entire history; undefeated against MWC bottom dwellers New Mexico, Colorado St, Wyoming, and UNLV; 4 AP Top 25 finishes from 2006-2009, twice as many AP Top 25 finishes in succession as the Utes have had in their entire history.

AP Top 25 Finishes
Bronco 4
Kyle 2

AP/Coaches Top 15 Finishes
Bronco 3
Kyle 1

Conference Championships
Bronco 2
Kyle 1

Record versus PAC 10/12 Teams
Bronco 9-8 (53%)
Kyle 12-18 (40%)

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Bye weeks are great players and coaches can spend time with family.
and not worry about the game.
That is 5th on their priority list.
Go BYU

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

We started out the season good and we are getting better and better with each game.

Go Utes!

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

@Chris B

One more logical progression:

BYU > Texas > All Big 12 Opponents.

I believe that makes us the Big 12 Champions and by defacto a BCS buster regardless of which bowl game we go to. I am liking this train of thought.

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