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Published: Monday, Oct. 28 2013 8:05 p.m. MDT

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Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

Reilly is a quality LB, and should play at the next level. We all know how good KVN is.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

I agree that the timing of this bye week is ideal. However, I also felt the same way about the bye week before the Utah game... it gave time to heal and a few extra days of preparation. that one didn't work out so well, let's hope for a different outcome this time around. Go Cougs!

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

As great as BYU has done the past several games, and despite how much they have improved, it's tough to favor BYU in this game. Wisconsin is legit good. They have a top 10 defense and they run the ball for almost 300 yards a game. They have an NFL Caliber Offensive line, and they execute well in play action pass. They played the #4 Ohio State Buckeyes tough on the road, and probably the biggest X-factor of all, their head coach is now Gary Anderson who has yet to beat BYU. I'm pulling for BYU in this game, but it wouldn't shock me to see BYU loose by a touchdown, even if they play well.

evansrichdm
west jordan , UT

Cougar Claws

Got to agree with you on this game, but if BYU where to pull off a win that will be huge for BYU and then to do it at ND. That would really make some noise for BYU on the national level, but when you look at things on paper it will be the hardest game of the season.

goforit
Provo, UT

I see BYU finishing 2 and 2 the rest of the way. They aren't as good as fans are starting to think they are. I have never seen a group of people go up and down so fast in my life. Most Cougar fans must be bipolar.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Wisconsin is a true national power and very well respected team.

byu is not.

My evidence?

No conference wants you or cares about your history and your own star running back Jamaal Williams said he thought byu was a division II program when he was being recruited.

LOL!

Division II!

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Jamaal Williams chose BYU over the U.Everyone can watch BYU Wisconsin it is on ABC

utesgoingdownthehill
Salt Lake City , UT

@ Chris B

I thought Utah was national power and were going for BCS bowl since they are in BCS conference.

SoUtBoy25
Cedar City, UT

If BYU dropped their "no Sunday play" rule they would be a member of one of the major football conferences.

Since they refuse to sell their "soul" for conference affiliation and $$$, they are comfortably independent.

BYU's tv contract and media center give them the ability to promote their program at a grass roots level. Instead of being a little sister just happy to have a patch on their jersey's, Cougar athletics has surprisingly thrived under the current format.

Who would have thought a QB with NFL potential would change from a nationally respected University and athletic program to second tier program?

After three years the proof is in the pudding. BYU still is able to field a competitive team. With Taysom and Hoffman they are making top 10 plays on nationally viewed sports stations.

Kick and scream all you want, but against all ods Cougar athletics is actually defying the critics and thriving in football independence.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

BeSmart,

Previously you said Jamall Williams was offered by Oregon. Why not include that offer here?

Or were you making that part up?

LOL

still waiting on evidence of another powerhouse national program that had recruits that thought they were a Division II program?

Anything?

Wisconsin is the only true national power playing in this game.

Their recruits don't think they are a division II program. Never have.

utesgoingdownthehill
Salt Lake City , UT

When a a good player chooses rival over your team I wouldn't laugh too hard. Regardless of what opinion he had of BYU he had worse opinion of team he didn't chose.

So you are laughing at yourself Chris.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

He was recruited by Oregon as a safety (recruited means received visits and letters etc.) I made a mistake about the offer.
But he still chose the Y over the U.

talkinsports
Gilbert, AZ

christy

Jamall Williams had offers from BYU, Boise State, San Diego State, Utah and others, yet he chose BYU over Utah; what does that say about U, that he would pick what he reportedly thought was a "Division II" program, over the PAC 12 Utes?

Sure doesn't say much for Utah's "national reputation" does it?

PDX_CougarFan
Milwaukie, OR

Hey guys, let's give Chris a break and maybe he'll return the favor. Also, he keeps making the same points over and over and people bring up the same items to refute them. I think some of Chris's points are legitimate while others are more inflammatory than legitimate. I'm comfortable conceding that being in a BCS conference generally gives Utah a leg up in recruiting and that having more stars is generally indicative of higher talent in a recruit. I'm also willing to concede that Utah fielded the better team on the field against BYU each of the last four years. While some of the games were close, Utah deserved to win those games. Hats off to Utah for the victories. On the other hand, it does appear that BYU is improving as the season progresses and Utah has stepped back since beating Stanford. If the two teams were to meet in San Francisco, it could still go either way! However, I am crossing my fingers that they do meet as I would love for KVN to have one last shot at Utah--even though a loss would sting a lot!

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Talkinsports,

Kids pick lesser programs over better programs all the time. If they didn't, teams like Alabama, USC, Florida would always get every single top recruit.

It doesn't change the fact that byu fans think they are a national power and yet can't provide me a single example of a recruit of another national power thinking they are a division II program.

You guys claim byu is a nationally respected great program and Utah isn't.

Can you provide me any evidence of a recruit thinking Utah was division II?

Or evidence that any other national power had a recuit that thought they were a Division II program?

Anything?

Just give me ONE example.

LOL!

You cant!

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

Glad the game will be on ABC regionally, as a cable-less home it's been tough either listening to the game (Wrubel still does a good job, just not the same as watching) or watching it on espn3.

Hope the Cougs bring their A-game, I hear Wisconsin at home is a tough game no matter how good/bad Wisconsin is. Should be fun, let's close out the season on good notes!

PDX_CougarFan
Milwaukie, OR

Christopher, I agree-it is a funny story--but it doesn't mean BYU isn't a nationally respected program. It also has no bearing on whether Utah is a nationally respected program. It is an anecdote that is entertaining, but ultimately the question of whether BYU is nationally respected is pretty subjective. If you read message boards (I gather that you do), you will see a bunch of comments that put down Ohio State University, the SEC, the BIG 12, the PAC12, etc. I think the question relates to the DEGREE of respect that is afforded to a school. I can tell you that when the Oregon Ducks played BYU in the Las Vegas bowl (2006?), BYU got very little respect from Oregon coach Mike Belotti. I thought that it would change if BYU beat them by thirty. I was wrong, when BYU beat them 38-8, the Oregonian reported that the Duck players were simply not interested in the game. On the other hand, I have several Duck and Beaver fan friends that compliment BYU frequently. My experience is that people are either generally respectful to everyone or respectful to no one.

Mark321
Las Vegas, NV

@ Chris B

"You guys claim byu is a nationally respected great program and Utah isn't."

Oh Chris Chris Chris. I feel so sorry for you. You still don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I think you think BYU is more nationally respected than we do. I'm flattered. But since we are on the subject of nationally respected program, there are 3 things that makes a program nationally respected: historical tradition, current success, and exposure. Historical success for Utah? None, they haven't won a national championship, and before their BCS victories haven't really made any consistent noise in the college landscape. Current success? You may have an argument here because of the 2 BCS bowl victories but it's like the old saying, "what have you done for me lately?" Exposure? Yeah, I saw the Utah-USC game, oh wait, I didn't it was on PAC 12 network. BYU? Historical tradition, national championship in 1984 and the 5th winningest program in past 40 years. Current success? 6 wins in 7 bowl games, consistent top 25 rankings. Exposure? 9th most televised team in college football, ESPN deal, nuff said.

PDX_CougarFan
Milwaukie, OR

Christopher, given that respect is hard to measure, maybe we can agree on some more objective items. Off the top of my head, I've got a couple ideas to measure as follows:
Respect for football acumen--
Do opponents regard BYU football games as gimmes, tossups, or losses before they occur?
Do opposing fans regard BYU football games as gimmes, tossups, or losses before they occur?

Respect for BYU as a brand--
How do opponents perceive the benefits of playing BYU? Will it bring more attention to their program if they beat BYU? Will they experience an increase in attendance if they schedule BYU?

I'd be happy to listen to any other ideas you might have or to discuss the items that I brought up. I'd also appreciate it if anybody else cared to do a little research on my behalf!!! :)

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@Chris B
Utah has a lot less publicity. (I would say for every 4 BYU articles the Utes get one)
So your point is moot.
Lesser program? 2 outright conference championships in 50 years?
lol
I guess Nick Kurtz spurned oregon for the same team and Fred Warner over USC
Have a good day everybody

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