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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 29 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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American Fork, UT

Good. Send 'em to North Dakota. There's good work; hard, cold, windy, hot. Outside. Physical. Night shift. And it comes with an expectation. Show up. At your age, you shouldn't need a sick day for 10 or 15 years. There is no such thing as a smoke break. Americas idle youth need jobs now. Go get one.

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

Yes, our government should be setting policy to create jobs!

Yet, our beloved law makers are more focused on hurting President Obama and taking the American economy to the brink to stop ONE law that has passed Congress, was upheld in the U.S. Supreme Court AND re-affirmed by the American people in the past election.

The GOP has become such a loose canon with its zeal to stop Obama and ObamaCare, it has created significant instability in the U.E. economy and businesses are hunkering down, not investing into new innovations or businesses initiatives -- and not hiring people.

What businesses need is a stable, predictable government and marketplace to make bets on the future. It can't with a TEA party-GOP minority, ready to create havoc in the American economy at will.

salt lake city, utah

What a bunch of ideological bunk.

Bountiful, UT

It's good that people are noticing the lack of employment opportunities for youth, but blaming Obamacare is a superficial grasp for excuses, at best; at worst, it masks the underlying problem.

If companies don't need employees who are more expensive, who thinks they want to hire additional less expensive employees?

Think this through - if you're getting the work done with N number of employees, it makes no sense to employ more workers, just because they're cheaper. That's a prescription for workers standing around, bored, marginally productive. This is asking for problems that any manager will tell you are unnecessary.

The causes are much deeper, and they have to do with how technology has enabled much greater productivity. If you own a business, and can get the work done with 5 employees using heavier amounts of technology, why would you give up that technology to hire 20 workers?

People who want answers beyond the cheap & repetitive political points to be found on talk radio should look at the work done by MIT professors McAfee and Brynjolfsson. The solution is unclear, but the causes are right there in black and white.

South Jordan, UT

"I need to get a job so I can get good health insurance."

-said no 18-24 year old ever.

Even before the ACA mandated that children can stay on their parents' insurance until age 26, earning money to pay for health insurance was not an incentive for anyone in that demographic to get a job. It's just not on the minds of young adults.

The rest of this In Our Opinion was great, however. What an alarming statistic, 15 percent of young adults unemployed.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

...and nary a word in this story about illegal aliens taking low-skilled entry level jobs cutting grass, busing dishes, making beds, picking fruit...
When will we make the connection between this amnesty nonsense and our native labor problems?
Sure these are jobs Americans won't do...for the amount they pay in a flooded labor market.

Salt Lake City, UT

America's idle youth are neither affected by the ACA nor immigrants. They are affected by expectations of high reward for their lazy efforts. Parents let them live at home, and don't expect them to get a job. You think the government is the problem? It starts at home.

Elk River, MN

Congrats on understanding the harm of the minimum wage. The true minimum wage is always $0. Setting a higher one just prices people lacking skills out of a job. Get rid of the minimum wage and OVERNIGHT you'll have many more people employed. People will be able to enter the workforce and gain skills that will allow them to improve their wage.

Westbank, BC

I agree with Moderate and AT - enough said

Salt Lake City, UT

"People will be able to enter the workforce and gain skills that will allow them to improve their wage."

A common rationalization for paying slave wages.

salt lake city, utah

Eleven states now have more people on welfare than working? Baloney. This nonsense comes from a Forbes article that actually said eleven states have more people dependent on government than private workers. That included local and federal workers, social security recipients, and Medicaid recipients. The author of the article said when asked about the email "Baldwin told us in an interview that what he reported and what the email says “are not the same thing at all.”.

Keep it up though MM you may get something right at some time.

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

I am sensing hypocrisy here. Just two days ago the DN published an article by Marjorie Cortez encouraging more visas for non-seasonal farm and ranch workers. These are jobs that these young adults could take, but they don't because of low wages, and hard work. Higher wages would make it easier for these workers to do the hard work. Not all of them are lazy.

Not only agriculture jobs are being filled by cheap foreign labor, but so also are many of the unskilled jobs formally held by this age group, creating an over supply of labor and depressed wages. "Proponents of a minimum wage increase ignore the fact that the law of supply and demand cannot be repealed." There would be no need for a minimum wage if there was not an over supply of unskilled labor.

There are also proposals to increase the number of skilled foreign workers, such as the STEM jobs. Rather than allow an increase of wages due to a shortage of workers, employers turn to foreign labor to depress wages. When the wages are high enough American students will get the training necessary for these occupations.

Pasedena, CA

Didn't the DN just have an article saying that the agriculture industry needs more jobs?

We have the labor force, too bad these kids don't have the humility or work ethics to take those jobs. Their idle hands could be replaced with productive work that would teach them skills that would last a lifetime.

Salt Lake City, UT

Your views are laughably predictable. The biggest single factor in discouraging employment figures for young workers is the lack of purchasing power in the middle class. This diminished purchasing power has been caused by the 2008 collapse of course, but also by the shift of wealth to the upper end - a well known and documented process, to which process you are completely oblivious. As this drags on and on, and it will, new forms of socialism will become attractive, but socialists need to step up to the plate (note: we are not liberals).

Las Vegas, NV

Based on the logic of this article, I guess that GOP-backed corporate America is doing all it can to support the national economy by refusing to ship jobs overseas for cheap labor and declining to use exoctic tax shelters to keep profits off our shores. The hypocricy is astounding.

Provo, UT

Put them to work in the fields. Farmers are always talking about how few workers they have to harvest and that we need to allow more immigration or workers from other countries. Put the youth to work.

Cedar Hills, UT

what idle youth??? Not according to Jay Carney and his boss. The economy is GREAT!!!

Bountiful, UT

So nice that the Deseret News would recognize this problem. I'd fully support a 21st-century "New Deal" for our "Great Recession." Let's get our idle young people to work!


The editors might do their homework instead of repeating ideological positions.

DN Subscriber 2

The sad reality is that a significant percentage of "youth" today have absorbed the lessons of their parent(s) and have no desire to bother to work, or skills to be employable because they find life on the liberal welfare plantation to be entirely satisfactory.

Most of the people who truly want to "work," and who grasp the concept of bettering their condition as a result of working hard and improving their job skills are actually doing so. But, the percentage of Americans in this category is steadily shrinking.

Meanwhile, we blame those who ARE working of not "paying their fair share" to subsidize those who too often simply will not work.

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