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Published: Sunday, Oct. 27 2013 10:05 p.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

I pray that the atheists' meeting will provide them with companionship and happiness doing whatever fills their hearts with joy.

Except for the part about having fun at the expense of Mormons.

Religious tolerance is the American ideal. However, if a group decides that they must (for whatever perverse reason I cannot understand) mock other religions, then they should be diverse, inclusive and ecumenical in their mockery.

Therefore I ask that they declare that they will be "having fun at the expense of the Muslim faith" as well.

Or, have we reached the point in this country where some religions are okay to mock and denigrate, but others are not? When does "political correctness" become hate speech?

michael.jensen369
Lethbridge, 00

I had to chuckle when I read this. I think the fact that President Monson has cultivated respectful and productive relationships with so many faith leaders in the SLC area would be their first clue. Maybe the fact that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has repeatedly given land, property, and volunteering time to many other faith groups in that area as well. Maybe it's President Monson's messages of being courteous and kind to those with differing beliefs. Maybe it's the 11th article of faith. Maybe it's leaders of our church being honored and given awards by other faith groups. Maybe it's President Monson's speaking at the SLC Catholic Cathedral. Maybe it's our partnering with other faith groups all over the world on a regular basis to provide service and donations to good causes. If they want to be outspoken atheists, that's fine. But the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint's being an oppressor of religious freedom? Please.

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

So?

RosaMaria
Laie, HI

I believe they have the right to free speech. I hope the members of the church listen to our prophet and not be offended and treat them with respect. After all, choices bring consequences. They will not escape from the consequences neither we the Mormons. The time of siege has begun. The wheat from the tare is being separated. Best wishes for them!

Mark from Montana
Davis County, UT

I have never understood being an Atheist. How do you prove God does not exist? Being Agnostic I can understand, but not an Atheist.

donquixote84721
Cedar City, UT

Utah was founded because The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mormons, were driven out of The United States of America, because of religious intolerance. In contrast
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Nearly every religion has a presence in Utah. Salt Lake City, Utah is the international headquarters of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly called the "Mormon" church), and about 50% of the state is a practicing member of this church. Catholics and non-denominational Christians are also popular. There are also many Muslims, who like Utah because the conservative values of the Mormons mirror their own. Nearly every Christian denomination you can think of has several churches in Utah, as well as Buddhists, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, and New-Age Spiritualist movements."

BYU Fan in DC
Washington, DC

I have yet to meet an atheist who was scared to come out about it. Also, I am not sure the variety of topics that atheists can talk about at a conference. Maybe they throw in sports and politics to add their multiple discourses on how God does not exist.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Are they doing this to try to bring some relevance and meaning to their cause?

Albert Maslar CPA (Retired)
Absecon, NJ

Atheists in fact practice religion, particularly when they feel they must unite as does a religious congregation to reinforce each other, lest there appear a crack in the armor and they must come to believe themselves. If there were no God to believe in, atheists are wasting their precious fun-time preaching against the existence of God. If there were no God, their getting together as a group convention style is like spitting in the wind, and of absolutely no consequence. If there were no God, eat drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die. And then?

scwoz
gambier, oh

If the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints controlled everything and everyone as the Atheists believe how is it that you are having an Atheist conference in the bowels of their power and glory...Think straight people. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints welcomes all viewpoints including those who claim ardently that they do not have one, isn't that a laugh. An organization that wants people not to join an organization and has created a Church in an effort to get people to believe in their god (Atheism) so no one can believe in the real God. It cannot get much more fun than this. The Church will probably have converted some of them by the time they are done..We will show you nothing but Love, friendship and kindness and by the end of it you will wonder why you had such bad thoughts about those nasty Mormons. We love you, so don't worry about it, it is just the way of that god you believe in that confuses you.

Anti-UnAmerican
Fargo, ND

As Complex has human beings, all animals for that matter are, How can anyone in good concious say there is not a higher power at work is beyond me.If there is not a God I will just rot in the ground like everyone else. But I choose to believe and live my life full of compassion, love, and understanding in hopes of reaching the elternal gates of heaven.
Amen !

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

Muscato's comment about the Mormons "intimidating" people sounds like a propagandistic pretext for starting hate and revenge on their part. We've heard this before. Certainly Mormons are not perfect but we have a right to stand for our values. Funny (but sad) that this is somehow "un-American", especially since this is exactly what they are doing for themselves, isn't it?

Even if some of us don't know how to act sensitively, is this really some kind of excuse to blanket all Mormons with such a label and remove our rights? I haven't done anything to "intimidate" anyone, nor have my family or friends. This is pure rubbish and hypocrisy, given that they will now use this to justify all kinds of shenanigans on their part. This is how the the pogroms in 1890's Russia and "mischief" of the brown shirts in Germany in the 30's started out. Nice little atheistic groups intent on settling some kind of imagined "score".

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

If there were no God, eat drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die. And then?

josegomez
Spain, 00

In Europe, atheists or non-religious, are also cutting the freedoms of religious believers, are influencing their atheistic beliefs to create others like her, I came to a conclusion: being an atheist is a religion, should read the latest news: computer scientists to prove that there is a higher being, excuse my bad English.

Red Headed Stranger
Billy Bobs, TX

Interesting. According to their "code of conduct" page, the American Atheists state:

"However, the harassment of individuals for his or her religious beliefs will not be tolerated."

Yet, according to the article, they plan on having '"fun" will come at the expense of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Muscato said.'

Sounds like harassment to me.

They also use words like "interfering", "intimidating", "controls", "pushing ", "un-American".

Mr. Moscato, if I choose to leave the LDS Church this afternoon, it can do NOTHING to harm me. It can't take away my job. It can't take away my family, or my home, or bank account, or send me to jail. How can it control me or intimidate me? Will the Bishop order the priest's quorum to egg my house? Please give LDS people more credit than that. The worst that can happen is that they will send two sweet older gentlemen to ask me what happened. That's it.

I do see one big difference though. Your conference to attend costs at least $319 and up to $1500 for celebrity access. Our conferences cost $0. I guess you have to rent a Great and Spacious Building.

dbrbmw
Orem, UT

And when their convention is over they go back to work at the ACLU.

atrulson
cohoes, NY

First, if they are willing to examine what the church is about, they WILL be proven wrong on their assumptions that the church leads through intimidation.
Secondly, yes, Utah is controlled by Mormons simply because Mormons make up a majority of the population.

Anyway I hope they have a lot of fun at their convention.

sfcretdennis
Nice, CA

Go ahead have fun at our expense, I could careless. We tend to make fun of our self's. My problem is the lie's being told about us by people who don't know us and don't want to. I have had people try to till me how we believe and when I till them that it is not true they say, “oh yes you do my, (who ever preaches to them) said you do”. I ill till them that that person is miss informed and the refuse to believe it just because their preacher said other wise.

People tend to miss understand other peoples faiths and a good dialog between faiths would help put a stop to that. When in the military I tried to understand how everyone believed or did not believe so as a leader I could help them based on their faith in God or lack thereof and not my faith.

So go ahead have your fun most of us could care less.

owlmaster2
Kaysville, UT

I believe that if someone wants to attempt to shock me by telling me they don't believe in God is fair. I don't care.
I have known several "atheists" that prayed just as fervently as me when the grenades landed and exploded, when the bullets flew by our heads and the screaming of the wounded filled the darkness.
Don't give me that atheist shock value crap..... if you want attention, do something of value in your life and be recognized for the good.
Agnostic, ok but don't play the atheist card with me. That card ends up being the Joker in real life.

Red Headed Stranger
Billy Bobs, TX

As for "pushing" Mormon values? As a multi decade member of the LDS church, I can say that I know what its values are. They are,

1. Respect for others. We are even told to love those that hurt us and persecute us.
2. Act with honesty and integrity always.
3. Men should treat all women with respect, especially towards their wife. Be intimate with only your wife.
4. Obtain as much education as one can.
5. Provide acts of charity and service towards the community, irrespective of their religious beliefs. This applies especially towards widows and orphans. Organized Love is better than generalized concern.
6. Do not drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, use illegal drugs or abuse prescription drugs.

What part of this does Mr. Moscato find offensive?

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