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Published: Sunday, Oct. 27 2013 11:04 p.m. MDT

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imajeff
Springville, UT

I don't understand why he said it isn't about cheap labor, and then went on to show that it is only about that. If I could get the same pay as bagging groceries, I would rather pick cherries. Actually I'm a software engineer now so I get a little more than that.

Alfred
Phoenix, AZ

@DN Subscriber 2:
"I do NOT understand why the need for workers cannot be met by requiring the idle people receiving welfare to do the work."

It's called socialism and securing the Democrat vote.

"It used to be that if a person was hungry, they got a job. Now they just get a handout."

The guy can make more on unemployment and other government handouts (food stamps, etc.) than he can working. That takes away the majority of the incentive to work.

@Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT
"Why would we want to legalize (and legitimize) 30 million 'new' illegal trespassers when we already have so many of our OWN citizens out of work?"

Two words: Democrat vote.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Of course this is about cheap labor -- and boundless, profound Greed on the part of those who want cheap labor, but who could care less about society around them and how their anti-enforcement, pro-illegal immigration, pro-cheap labor efforts harm it and its children.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Yep what we need is different laws, ones that the government could ignore like the ones we have now. As always government is the problem and has been for years. NO EMFORCEMENT!

Doug10
Roosevelt, UT

Everyone wants someone else to fix their problem.

We enjoyed inexpensive tomatoes in the 80's and 90's due to the illegal farm workers. Sad today to have to pay over $4 millin per day in emergency room visits by illegal immigrants. Cheap tomatoes turned out to be not so cheap.

There is a way of immigrating to this country legally and I know several who have. Those who are not here legally make a mock of our laws.

Solve the problem by enacting a law where any employer caught with an illegal is fined $50,000 for a first offense and $100,000 for a second offense. Problem solved very shortly.

Utah can be a leader in obeying the law within our own state. Instead when illegals are pulled over without a drivers license they are allowed to keep driving. Utah can do much to enforce the existing laws but instead they moan and complain to the federal government expecting them to solve our problems.

They sound like the people they love to resent, those with their hand out asking for help

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Sorry my last post was accidentally sent before I finished. Most immigrants have a incredible work ethic. And if anyone believes Americans are willing to do farm labor you are delusional. I was raised on a farm. Couldn't find help other than friends from our LDS ward that helped out of charity more than necessity. The anti-immigration fervor is more about nationality and skin color as opposed to economics or rule of law. Hitler blamed all of Germany's economic woes on the Jewish. We know how well that turned out. Kudos to KSL's Doug Wright for standing up to the extremists on immigration

imajeff
Springville, UT

I saw the movie, "Now You See Me". I know how this all works. Perhaps the real diversion is who really wants the cheap labor?

Who is really directing? Is it the consumers who demand cheaper stuff? They who "deserve it" because they worked hard to push their employers to pay all these extra benefits and higher wages without giving more value to the company, so they deserve it. I won't forget the little business owner who worked so hard to become big, by creating the illusion that brings the most money from the community while giving little value as possible back. Their money is so important that they would choose it over value, in the end.

With all this irresponsibility, the law is not the problem nor the solution.

Yeah, Americans who master avoiding responsibility. Find the power. Take responsibility. If you want them cherries, start picking them cherries.

techpubs
Sioux City, IA

@NeilT:
Sorry to disappoint you, but that theory doesn't fly with me.
You will note that with more than 12 million illegal immigrants here we still can't find enough of these hard working people to do these farm jobs either.
Many of these crops could be harvested quickly by existing machines designed for that purpose. However it sounds a whole lot better to say "I can't find any laborers" than it does to say "I refuse to buy a machine to do the work". Besides with the machine you have to spend a lot of money, but if you can underpay workers you save a fortune that goes in your pocket.

MapleDon
Springville, UT

@NeilT

You're in the minority. Therefore, your view is extremist in comparison to the majority in this state. Kudos to those who recognize the long-term harm that will come from the open-border, illegal immigration policy of the left. Doug Wright? Give me a break. Doug doesn't have the guts to stand up for what's right. He gets paid to shape public opinion and does so with the low-information types. He's a paid propagandist.

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