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Published: Friday, Oct. 25 2013 12:45 a.m. MDT

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Parry is a Farce
Layton, UT

So what is the tiebreaker in region 4? herriman, PG, Riverton, and Lone Peak all finish at 4 and 2 and a 4-way tie for first. Interested to know so we can plug them into the State Tourney bracket.

Parry is a Farce
Layton, UT

According to George Felt the seeding is #1 Herriman, #2 Riverton, #3 Lone Peak, and #4 Pleasant Grove, based on each team’s record versus the other three, then on head-to-head results.

I think this is how BigBenzo called it yesterday. Good call Ben.

reddesert7
St. George, Utah

Great job Region 4! Great year so far. The 4 teams that are in will represent well at state, we hope! Lehi came on strong this year, too. Not sure what happened to AF? Well, yes I do know. Sometimes change, when things are going well, can come back and bite you! Good luck to all schools going to state! Can't wait for basketball.

BigBenzo88
Herriman, UT

Congrats to Herriman, Riverton, Lone Peak and Pleasant Grove as Region 4 Champs. I was impressed by the heart of Pleasant Grove last night in their upset of Herriman.

Even though I would have preferred a win and the outright region championship...this game was a wakeup call to Herriman at the right time. Things will not get any easier...the road for Herriman looks like Layton, Brighton, Jordan, Bingham. I would expect a win over Layton and then hosting Brighton would be an exciting game.

After last nights game...I firmly believe Pleasant Grove has the ability to upset Davis and then give Jordan a strong fight.

The playoffs will be very exciting.

Prep Fan 89
Draper, UT

Neither Pleasant Grove or Davis will give Jordan a fight. And neither would Herriman.

Benzo we have been reading your comments all year long, the only thing you have been right about is the playoff seeding which had nothing to do with your personal opinion. How many "wakeup calls" does Herriman need? They are an average football team capable of playing with the best at times and capable of losing to the worst at times. Benzo they are a .500 football team this year. They have no identity, they play a game and lose 7-3 and in another where they lose 42-41. Who is this Herriman team? I'll tell you. They are a mediocre team that is very very capable of going one and done in the 5A tourney. Fortunately for them they are matched up with a mediocre region full of these types of teams.

It will be an all Region 3 semifinals, assuming Alta can hold serve as the #4 seed in round 2. The other three teams in Region 3 have a cake walk. 5A football stinks this year.

souptwins
Lindon, UT

The Trib reported that the state seeding for this region would be decided by a "coin toss". Not sure if that's accurate but it seems a bit wild.

Pig Skin Fan
Syracuse, UT

I agree with Prep Fan 89, Region 3 will roll into the Semi and Finals. Region 1 and Region 4 match ups will be fairly even, it could go any direction; 2-2, 3-1, 0-4 for either Region. Both Mediocre Regions this year. Region 1 probably down more this year, than Region 4. Can't wait until the official shedule is released.

football follower
salt lake, UT

Herriman did not play well last night they had some major mistakes with 2 big turn overs on fumbles that cost them 14 points, as well as some interesting and maybe not so affective play calling.
As I have said before don't sell Herriman short they could surprise all of you . They just need to keep their hands on the ball no fumbles a little more creativity in plays and they could be right in with the rest of the region for the playoffs.
Hold on it should be interesting.

JDigger24
Sandy, UT

Thats what I thought, isnt it that if there is more than two teams tied then it goes to coin toss? When is the schedule gonna be released?

goaggies1
Clinton/Davis, UT

Pig Skin, nice to see you back now the season is almost over. What are your predictions for the playoffs? Give us knowledge master!!!!!!!!!!! What are your thoughts.

footballisgood
Holladay, UT

Wow football follower, really? 41 points and the play calling was not very good? A TD on double pass, a great call on the last drive that is a TD if the pitch is caught, a nice call on the wildcat jump pass for the 2 point conversion, the screen at the end (terrible call on the hold). They put up more points against PG than anyone has all year. Nice armchair opinion, have you ever called the plays for a high school team? I doubt it.

Jfan
Sandy, UT

Before last night's game I was nervous for a rematch with Herriman because they were getting healthy at the right time missing most of their best players in the earlier game vs Jordan. After the game not such much to be honest; Herriman has its chances last night but couldn't put away P.G and obviously lost. Herriman can be good at times but losses like these kill a team and for tat reason Im not as nervous to play them. Not arrogant at all but if Jordan's offense is rolling, plus their defense, which hasn't been amazing this year but good enough to get turnovers then they can beat almost any team in 5A

BigBenzo88
Herriman, UT

@Prep Fan 89 - From day one of this season I said that this would be considered a rebuilding year due to a new coach and losing 13 starting seniors...3 of which signed D-I Scholarships. As far as identity...Herriman has plenty of it: First and only 5A school to make the playoffs its inaugural year, a 4 year old school with 4 playoff berths, 3 D-I signees and 2 straight region championships. Not bad for a new school in a rebuilding year.

Last year when Herriman played East in the playoffs...I predicted a close game and a win. Most posters said East would kill Herriman by 21, 28 or even 35. In the end, Herriman lost by 11. The funny thing is...of all the people that said we would get killed...only a few admitted that Herriman was better than they thought. They same held true for our game against Bingham. The #1 team in the state only beating "lowly" Herriman by 13 points.

You can't say Herriman might be a "one and done" in the playoffs without also saying they could "go all the way"...because in reality, both are very possible.

Pig Skin Fan
Syracuse, UT

#1 Herriman, #2 Riverton, #3 Lone Peak, and #4 Pleasant Grove is confirmed.

Goaggies1
my prediction for the first round only are Region 3 wins all games, no brainer. Don't waste your time watching them.

Region 1 vs Region 4 really a coin flip, so I will go with all higher seeds win; 2 and 2. Best match up to watch because anyone can win, no underdogs.

adwight
AMERICAN FORK, UT

My predictions.

Davis over PG.
Lone Peak over Syracuse.
Herriman over Layton/Northridge. But Northridge will give the team they play a great game.
Riverton over Layton/Northridge.

Davis gets the short end of the stick I think, like Herriman did last year. Go undefeated all year just to play a team that's 8-2 first round. Go figure.

Prep Fan 89
Draper, UT

Big Benzo, Corner Canyon won a share of the region title in their first year. So is making the playoffs in your first season really that big of a deal?

I respect Herriman High, but not enough to put them in a serious conversation about who will win the 5A tourney. There are only 3 teams that I believe can honestly challenge for it. Bingham is the obvious answer, and Brighton and Jordan are the only other two that have enough in them to win it all. (Jordan due to the fact they get a cakewalk into the semis - Brighton too)

Syracuse can't be taken seriously in the real scheme of things, because they play like Davis does. If you go into games hoping to move the ball 15-20 yards so you can punt and try to win the field position battle, you can't beat teams that look at that mentality as "if you pin us on the 15 that just means 85 years of offense the other way". Field position is not going to win the 5A title, points will. That is why nobody in Region 1, 3, or 4 can be taken seriously.

goaggies1
Clinton/Davis, UT

PrepFan, that's how we do things in region 1. Field position buddy. That's how you win games by letting your punter out punt the other guy. 3-0 score is fine by me. I remember 2 years ago when Syracuse played Alta at Alta and used the field position game to their advantage. If I remember that right Alta was a 1 seed and the Cuse was a 4th seed. Tell me again what happened. It depends on your team and the weapons you have. There is nothing wrong playing field position and good defense. A good offense wins games a good defense wins championships. Just a mind set my friend.

footballisgood
Holladay, UT

Corner Canyon's season has been impressive. They won a share of the region title, which is something that Herriman cannot claim. I think what makes Herriman's first year impressive to me (not more impressive than Corner Canyon, just trying to say why people think it was a big deal) is that Herriman made the playoffs in 5A in their first year with an enrollment that would have been a small 4A school. Both accomplishments are noteworthy and something to be proud of by the respective communities, as they are both atypical for first year schools

Prep Fan 89
Draper, UT

Herriman was 4A for their first three years, this is their first year in 5A. They have not won a state game (0-3) at the 4A level in that time, they did win a "play in" game one of those years. Sorry, I am not that impressed.

Corner Canyon will be dominant from here on out in football. Their entire core are juniors, and their sophomore team is very very good too. Their younger groups are also loaded with talent.

@goaggies1 - Region 1 "field position football" might earn you an upset, but it won't win you a title. Can you think of any Region 1 state champions in football in the last few years? I can't. It did score Syracuse 2 points in the championship last year though. But their awesome "D" yielded 58.

I still think Syracuse can beat Alta this year too, but there is no way on this planet Region 1 is good enough to win a state title. I'll go ahead and say that for next year too, Region 1 can't win one in football.

footballisgood
Holladay, UT

Check your stats, prep fan. Herriman played their first year in 5A in a region including Bingham and Riverton, and faced Cottonwood in the first round of the playoffs, a game in which Herriman led at halftime before giving way in the second half. I am not sure why the negativity toward Herriman when. I was very complimentary to Corner Canyon and giving them their due.

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