Give it up JohnInSLC, your desperate spin isn't even based on reality.
Surf, Riverton, poy, et al:Your attempts to claim relevance today
does indeed go back to the Reagan Administration:1 Davey
O'Brien Award 1981 (McMahon)5 Sammy Baugh Trophy 1974-1984 (Scheide
(Carter Administration], Wilson, McMahon, Young, Bosco)1 Outland Trophy
1986 (Buck)1 NC 1984All those predate or include the Reagan
Administration. If I included the Bush41 Administration, that would clean up
nearly all of your cherished awards--the last one was Luke Staley in '01,
over a decade ago. Turning to Surf's NFL reference, you
don't want to compare number one draft picks, or alums that are on NFL
rosters today.Relevance. Today. Sorry, LaVell Edwards left a long
It should have been Boise State dismantled Utah State not BYU.
Game will not be over early. Remember BYU dismantled Utah State not too many
weeks ago. BYU did the same thing so even steven on common foes. Athleticism
doesn't always translate into size, intelligence and skill counts. Boise
State is as smart a team as any in the nation and that certainly counts Notre
Dame and Wisconsin. BYU has one ace in the deck that is Taysom but Boise State
also has an ace and that is Coach Pete. It will be a heck of a game.
"You obviously haven't studied much history "Fax:Speak for yourself. You obviously didn't know that the national
championship BYU backed into nearly thirty years ago was the Y's only
undefeated season in its football history. In that same preiod Utah has had four
undefeated seasons, two in the last decade. That's certainly more relevant
today.poy:Notice I said '81 THRU '88. I was
trying to keep it simple for coug fans, knowing the '88 college season
didn't extend to Inauguration Day. But thanks for picking the nits.
Sparkley Briefs, I hope you are right, but this is Boise State we
are talking about they will give us a fight and a good fight at that. There will
not be anything easy about this games if BYU wins it. I have a great
amount of respect for Boise and would never count them as having a down year. I
was glad that Boise and BYU will be playing each other for many years because
Boise is a great team and is a good measurement of how good our BYU team is or
isnt good or has improved since playing Utah and a good measurement against the
other good teams we play next month. GO BYU.
Sorry Bronco (the team, not the coach) fans, BYU has a bit too much firepower
for you to overcome with your offense going to second stringers. I think this
one is over early.
To all the ute fans out there who are taking shots at Boise State let me give
you a short history tour...The Time: December 22nd, 2010...The Place: Las VegasThe Event: The Maaco Las Vegas BowlThe Teams: Boise State Brancos vs the utah utesThe Results: Boise
State 26 utah 3Ouch...
@johninslc,Those of us who know a little about the Constitution know
that old administrations end and new administrations begin on the 20th of
January following a November Election... Reagan's Administration ended on
@BroncoSportsFan "Geez People, how come an article about BYU playing Boise
State has Utah and BYU battles all over the place? Get over it! Grow Up. Go
Broncos!"You must not get down this way much. Even in victory
there are many utes who are so obsessed with BYU it defies logic.If
you go down to LES to watch the game tomorrow take note of all the folks who
will probably be wearing ute gear. Why are they there? Just to cheer against
BYU. It is a strange form of behavior. I'm sure Freud had a term for it.
@JohnInSLCYou say it's funny that BYU fans have to go back to
the Reagan administration to claim relevancy, and then BeSmart points out that
BYU was relevant in '06-'09. I don't understand why you made that
last comment pointing out that Reagan's administration was not in the late
2000's.As for this game, I think BYU would win, but I
wouldn't guarantee a win. It's foolish to guarantee a win against a
team like Boise State.
If BYU beats BSU, they will be the first Utah team to do so since 1986. The
Utes obviously can't beat the Broncos - they don't even keep it close.
I will be there tommorow night, can't wait!
Geez People, how come an article about BYU playing Boise State has Utah and BYU
battles all over the place? Get over it! Grow Up. Go Broncos!
@WA_Alum&Dad Thanks for the welcome. Thats the thing about most BYU and BSU
fans is we can keep it classy. Unlike the Fans at the U. Why do utah fans even
have to comment on these boards that have nothing to do with them? Being a fan
of both Boise State and BYU I am excited for these games. It is hard to root
against one of my teams. But hopefully it can turn into an exciting, fun and
classy rilavary. To Ute fans give BSU a competitive game where you dont lose by
30. Then you are welcome to talk smack. GO BRONCOS friday and Cougs for the rest
of the season.
"actually from 06-09 BYU was a top 20 program. That is relevant in my
opinion."BeS:The Reagan Administration was 1981 thru
1988, not '06 to '09.
It's interesting, this weird, disjointed time/space continuum that Utah
fans have had to adopt in order to pretend relevancy - except for a handful of
very select, cherry-picked accomplishments, nothing before 2004 counts in
football and nothing since 2005 counts in basketball.
JohnInSLCYou obviously haven't studied much history - political
or college football.Since Reagan's Presidency ended on January
20, 1989, Ty Detmer won the Heisman, Sammy Baugh and Davey O'Brien awards
in 1990/91, BYU won the Cotton Bowl and finished #5 in both polls and Steve
Sarkisian won the Sammy Baugh Trophy in 1996, Luke Staley won the Doak Walker
award in 2001, and BYU had three 11-2, Top 15 finishes in 2006, 2007, and 2009,
more 11+ win seasons in the last seven seasons, than the Utes have had in their
Go cougars! It should be a fun game to watch!
I bet to differ JohnInSLC. It is no more tripe than a program who's only
two greatest accomplishments are separated by four years-- the last of which
happened five years ago.How does that make a team prestigious?The difference is that BYU had been building a legacy over decades. BYU
has even finished ranked in the top 25 several times inn the last ten years, so
they are not Johnny-come-lately. And anyone intellectually honest enough to look
at the evidence is forced to acknowledge it. BYU will build on that
tomorrow by beating BSU.
top 20 sorry
@JohnInSLCactually from 06-09 BYU was a top 10 program. That is relevant
in my opinion.
I'm thinking that I feel better with Hedrick under center for this game. It
might not be fair to Southwick, but even though he was throttled back by the
O.C. in their last meeting the fact is he did not score. I just wish that
Hedrick had a couple of games as starter under his belt. BYU has shown
some good football this year. I think if BSU's defense can step up like the
did in the second half against USU things could get interesting. I think the 7
point spread is about right, but if the Broncos can get it clicking it'll
be BSU by 7.
Surf:Talk about tripe--you've got to go all the way back to the
Reagan Administration in order to claim relevance today!! Too funny.
Aren't Colorado, Illinois, Kentucky, Duke, and Kansas part of prestigious
conferences too? My answer to that is "so what?" They're still
hopeless on the football field and have lost all hope of making a high-paying
bowl game. Being in a conf isn't very prestigious if you can only win one
or two games now is it?
@busterbroncoIt's good to see a Broncos fan on the comments.
Welcome aboard. Sorry about the vermin who clutter it up with irrelevant stuff
about a team we will be playing less often than we will be playing you in the
coming years. Some pests are just hard to get rid of. We've moved
on--they haven'tI agree--high scoring and close.
Surf is UpMiami, FL===Agreed. I was pointing out
to Chris B that USU is in an elite crowd that Chris does not even belong to,
even with the invite.
Hendrick should have been the starter the last 2 seasons. To start Southwick is
a Bronco Riley type of move. How do you even figure BYU has superior athletes?
How many BYU players besides Ziggy has gone in the last 3 NFL drafts compared to
BSU? 14-1? 3 in the first round. And after all is said and done probably 4 or 5
more off of the class they have now. If BYU is to ever beat BSU this is the year
to do it. With it being a down year. Both teams are very similar and it should
be a very competitive game. It shows you were our programs are 10-2, 9-3 is an
awesome year for BYU. Its considerd a down year for BSU. I look for another game
similar to last week for BYU. High scoring and close.
@Veritas Aequitas: Yes I knew about Merlin Olsen. My post was more to
illustrate to Chris B and all of the BYU haters that if they are going to pound
their chests about two BCS bowls as proof that they are in a
"prestigious" group (having accomplished nothing else in their history)
that he'd best come up with a longer list of accomplishments on the
pedigree if he really intends to push that tripe.Hey Chris. The utes
are in a prestigious conference but the U are not prestigious, and will not be
until U guys can garner a winning record. With the exception of Oregon the
PAC10.2 is not the second best AQ conference in the country. Not even third.
But one team in Utah already won its bowl game. Way back in September. And it
belongs to the PAC 10.2. And it won a game against a top 10 ranked team. And it
has superior athletes and coaches. And it can't get to .500. But it is
clearly the dominate and best team in the whole wide world.
Some people like to think every BYU article is really about utah. So think of
this:utah all time record against pac 12 opponents - 84-134-6 .375utah record in all pac 12 games since 2011 - 8-14 .363U gotta
love that pac 12 membership...go ahead and put another pac 12 sticker on your
car.One of my friends told me the other day that he loves the pac 12
networks. That's cool. I'll take ESPN and BYUtv any day.
Surf is UpMiami, FLAlso, please post back and tell me
how many teams or programs in Utah belong to the prestigious group of programs
that have won these awards:===Utah State has a Outland Trophy
winner in Merlin Olsen...
BYU has the momentum, Spencer Hadley, BSU is riddled with injuries with qb and
starting running backs out. It should be an impressive BYU win. I completely
disagree on the comment of BYU having the superior athletes. I think if BSU had
their starting running backs they would be much better than BYU's. Its
really hard to tell on the defense but playing at home advantage BYU. Coaching
edge to Chris Petersen. It should be a blowout but with excellent athletes and a
great coach BSU hangs in there. BSU has been in this exact position against
Oklahoma so that is why the outcome is determined on the field. Utah would be in
trouble if they were playing BYU this weekend.
Until BYU actually does beat Boise, the smart money is on the Broncos (if I were
a bettin' man).
Chris B should be worrying if the Utes will ever get to .500 again, much less
ever get in any prestigious groups of any sort. Both Stanford and BYU are
ranked ahead of the Utes in all ranking services. This obviously is pointing
again to a team that shot it's wad early then peters out quickly as the
season moves on. The Utes are razor thin in depth at all skill positions and
are unlikely to ever be a factor in anyone's college football conversation.
Best they just focus on playing well in their small JUCO stadium on the hill.
BYU is part of a very select group of premier programs who went to a bowl game
last year and won. I don't think there are more than two or so teams in the
state of Utah that can claim membership in this prestigious group. We are lucky
to have a member of this group here in Utah playing against Boise State because
if anyone else from Utah were playing them, Boise State easily beat them since
they lost to a lowly Arizona squad.BYU has superior athletes to
Boise State and the coaches are quality high class people who expect something
out of their athletes and not just hope they don't have any DUI's. No
other team in the state of Utah would have a chance to beat Boise State because
after what Arizona did to Utah as a whole, there definitely was some exposure.
So I'm giving BYU the edge in this game.BYU 34Boise State 20
BYU is going to win this game. They may even surprise BSU with a dominant
performance.Hey Chris B. you should be worrying that your utes will
fall flat again against a hapless USC team.Also, please post back
and tell me how many teams or programs in Utah belong to the prestigious group
of programs that have won these awards:National Championship: 1Heisman Trophy: 1Davey O'Brien Trophy: 3Sammy Baugh Trophy:
7Outland Trophy: 2Doak Walker Award: 1QB- NFL Passing
Titles: 6QB- Superbowl Record 1Superbowl MVP: 1Superbowl
winning QB: 2NFL Hall of Fame: 1
BYU is a 7 point vegas favorite again (they have been a lot this year) but have
only covered once.I think BYU's D plays well and the Offense does
Now I have two reasons to hope for a favorable outcome to Friday night's
game:1. Boise's qb is similar to Riley Nelson2. Chris
has predicted a Boise winThanks so much. I was beginning to doubt.
Boise is part of a very select group of premier programs who have won multiple
BCS games. I don't think there are more than ten or so teams in the entire
country that can claim membership in this prestigious group. We are lucky to
have another member of this group here in Utah.Boise has superior
athletes to byu and a better coach. And after what Houston did to byu's
defense, there definitely was some exposure. So I'm giving
Boise the edge in this game.Boise 34byu 20