@ Tyler D,I cannot believe we’re having a conversation about sorcery,
witchcraft & spells in the 21st century. What about today’s Wiccan
covens in Southern California? As early as April 1978, the U.S.
Army had circulated A Handbook for Chaplains "to facilitate the provision of
religious activities." Both the Church of Satan and the Temple of Set were
listed among the "other" religions to be tolerated inside the U.S.
military. See Anton Levey.
@donn – “Sorcery is named specifically in Scripture as a violation
of God’s law (Deuteronomy 18: 10-12; Galatians 5:20 and elsewhere), and
its not a joke.”I cannot believe we’re having a
conversation about sorcery, witchcraft & spells in the 21st century. You do realize that for people in biblical times the entire world was a
mystery; they did not understand anything about the natural world – the
weather, the seasons, the sky/sun/stars, why crops failed… the list is
endless. Heck, unless they saw someone impaled by a spear, they had
no idea why people got sick or died, so of course for them mystery, miracles and
sorcery were ubiquitous. Today we know that, just like the Harry Potter books,
they are complete fictions. Please, I invite you to join us in this
century… it’s a much less frightening place than the arbitrary &
capricious world of the Bronze Age gods or Hogwarts.
@: antodav, Christians who oppose the franchise without ever having read the
books or seen the movies. Wrong,Order of the Phoenix tries to mitigate
that by saying that anyone can become a great wizard, but once again, that
involves learning the secret occult knowledge of how to do witchcraft and how to
wave a magic wand properly.The series is fictional and presented for
the purpose of entertainment Is a little entertainment worth imbedding some very
unfaithful ideas in the heads of children?Sorcery is named
specifically in Scripture as a violation of God’s law (Deuteronomy 18:
10-12; Galatians 5:20 and elsewhere), and its not a joke. Harry does
not think like a Christian in many other ways. He nurses and feeds grudges
against his relatives and his rivals at school, and revenge is portrayed as
@patriotGreece is a real slippery slope.
The main thing I like about this article is that the author takes an open mind
and has a positive attitude towards Harry Potter, unlike so many other
Christians, who oppose the franchise without ever having read the books or seen
the movies. Although the ending of the series is terrible, it does teach very
good lessons about good vs. evil, which any Christian parent who actually
understands Christian values ought to appreciate (of course, that does
implicitly exclude most Christians by default).
RE: Harry Potter books:One of the easiest ways to know whether a fantasy
book or film has real world magick in it is to just ask a simple question:
“Can my child find information in a library or bookstore that will enable
them to replicate what they are seeing in the film or the book?” If you go
to The Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings what you see in, story
magic and imagination, it is not real. You can’t replicate it. t Harry Potter, you can find references to astrology, clairvoyance, and
numerology. It takes seconds to go into a bookstore or library and get books on
that and start investigating it, researching it, and doing it. In fact,
that’s why real Wiccans, real witches, and real occultists are using the
popularity of Harry Potter to lure kids toward real world occultism. A lot of parents are unaware at how easy it is to get books on witchcraft and
spells, many of which are located right next to the Harry Potter books at
I suspect lots of parents wondered about having more kids during WWII. The world
has burning up - literally. The future was dark - about as dark as it gets.
Today the worry is different - the worry is not about war and bloodshed but
rather a nation which has turned to socialism and the predicable economic
implosion that IS happening. What sort of economic future do our kids and
grandkids have under socialism? Maybe ask the parents in Greece?
@SCfan – “This "better morality" had better not include
things like no murder, or stealing, and such, because religion, the Bible in
particular has already set that foundation.”Yes, because prior
to the Bible mentioning them, no one had a clue these things were wrong,
right?And these things were never mentioned either by any other
group or society prior to Moses… not by the sages of India, not by the
Chinese, not by the Persians or the Greeks (especially!) or any other society
that somehow managed to climb out of the survival of the fittest jungle and
create a cooperating society?The fact is we would never have been
able to get this far if our moral sentiments were not innate (or least naturally
selected long before recorded history). Religion did not invent
morality… it hijacked it.
The ScientistReally need to ask you about your last sentence. A
better world comes from better morality than Christianity gives us. If you just
mispelled "than" for "that" I understand. But if you think
there is a better morality than what is taught by Christianity, please tell us
all about it. Where does it come from. Who wrote it? Where is it applied?
Who runs it today. And what is it called? P.S. This "better
morality" had better not include things like no murder, or stealing, and
such, because religion, the Bible in particular has already set that foundation.
Any new moral system would just be taking from the Judeo/Christian principles
I have to agree with Dadof5sons when he writes:"...raise better
children, that will make a better world. don't sugar coat it. Be a parent
first not a friend. be tough on them teach them the 5 R's reading writing
arithmetic, respect, and responsibility. Do the last two were the children have
respect for others and themselves, and are responsible for their own choices and
never let them play the victim game the world will be a far brighter place. Any
thing else is a cop out for wanting to put some one else before yourself for
ever."Because Christianity is fundamentally about having someone
else take responsibility for ("pay for") your sins (you cannot save
yourself from this lost and fallen state), it is repugnant to the principles of
human morality. According the the doctrines of "the Fall" preached by
Christian religions, every human is a "victim" and has a built in excuse
for bad behavior: "we Mormons/Baptists/Catholics are not perfect, just
forgiven/"chosen"/striving for eternal progression".A
better world comes from better morality than Christianity gives us.
One would have to be pretty ignorant of world history to think things are worse
now than they've ever been (particularly in Western Society).
worried about the world you live in? afraid to bring children in to the world?
Here is the answer want a better world for your children raise better children,
that will make a better world. don't sugar coat it. Be a parent first not a
friend. be tough on them teach them the 5 R's reading writing arithmetic,
respect, and responsibility. Do the last two were the children have respect for
others and themselves, and are responsible for their own choices and never let
them play the victim game the world will be a far brighter place. Any thing else
is a cop out for wanting to put some one else before yourself for ever.
I know people that refuse to send there kids to school because of bad things
there. Thing is our Heavenly Parents send us to a telestial world to learn
Celestial principles. Since Cain and Abel there has been great people and evil.
Popular to say things are getting so much worse. People have been saying that
for millenia though. If that was true this would be a real bad place.
They'll accept truth and live it, or they won't.That's the
same as it has always been.Might actually be easier to see the differences
as society evolves and people are so out in the open.Do your best with the
situation you're in, things have never been easy; just different.
I doubt many persons have this or any other moral question on their mind at that
@gmileisI would disagree I think we are becoming more just and
compassionate society and therefore a less evil society.
Many are ever learning and never coming to a knowledge of the truth. This is
more true now than ever in history. If wickedness includes accepting good for
evil and evil as good, then the cumulative "wrongness" of this
generation surpasses that of any other.
This world is no worse or better than it ever has been since the 1st human set
foot on it.
I agree with Hutteritte, the world really is not falling apart but if you are
not sure you are ready to face the task of having children then don't let
others force you into it.
I think every couple entertains these thoughts, doubts, fears at one time or
another.But in the eternal perspective, they're all coming to
get a body anyway. Better they come to a family that wants them, can be there
for them through trials and love them unconditionally.If you are
willing to make the sacrifices necessary, better they come to you than someone
who made a mistake, or will mistreat, abuse or neglect them.
If your head or heart tells you not to have children, I'd listen to that
over a bunch of badgering relatives or anyone in church. The world isn't as
'wicked' as this article suggests but it is expensive and it demands a
lot of time. Do us, and them, a favour; if you don't want 'em,
don't have 'em.
“Will our children have enough food to eat? Will they be sent off to war
in their lifetime? Will they succumb to a terrible disease or
accident?”I understand a certain level of anxiety about these
questions Tiffany, but the fact is if we know our history and have a little
perspective we should have less anxiety about these issues than at any time in
the history of civilization.When compared to any past ages we are
far more secure, but I suspect many are not happy about it due to either a
religious worldview or an addiction to fear-based media.