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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 22 2013 11:20 a.m. MDT

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

While qualities such as integrity, honesty and others are admirable, none are exclusive to religion. Some are anathema to it. They all are extensions of the values and beliefs we are innately born with, which can be developed and refined by such methods as leadership by example. Religion, which endorses force in this life and damnation in the next based on bronze age explanations of humanity and the universe, is not necessary to lead a decent, moral life. It isn't natural that one would take on these rituals and beliefs without some sort of coercion, whether it was deliberate or by association.

islandboy
Honolulu, HI

My parents did the same thing to me. Wow, good thing. I enjoyed the video.

Whammer
Orem, UT

Some of what was commented is true we are all born with the light of Christ which invites us to do good and we can know with a perfect knowledge that those good attributes or desires are of God. For Satan persuades no one to do good. These desires come to all of us. Jew, Gentile, Atheist, etc.

John20000
Cedar Hills, UT

God bless the efforts of all parents.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

@Hutterite

Did you watch the video? Because if you did, you will note that the Ethan talks about things his parents taught him on top of teaching him about religion. I didn't see anything in this video in which Ethan claimed to be better than others solely because he is religious and they are not.

I think those who are religious do need to be careful about propping themselves up above others. At the same time though, castigating those who are religious is no different.

You talk about things that are not natural, but let me ask you, what is natural? If you have found joy, comfort, strength and fulfillment in following a specific set of guidelines, is it natual or unnatural to want to share those guidelines or ideas with others, especially your children?

If your child comes to you and asks questions like, "Why are we born? Why do we die? Why are some people born with money and others are not?" What do you consider the "natural" way to respond to these questions?

Way of the Warrior
Arlington, WA

How are to know that Ethan's classmate wasn't the one who was actually brainwashed?

jeanie
orem, UT

Hutterite said "Religion, which endorses force in this life and damnation in the next based on bronze age explanations of humanity and the universe, is not necessary to lead a decent, moral life. It isn't natural that one would take on these rituals and beliefs without some sort of coercion, whether it was deliberate or by association."

It is easy to assume religion is based on coericion, fear and ignorant ideas when you have not been immersed in the good it offers. I will forever be grateful to my parents who taught me about the love of God and his desire for us to be happy. I have seen how living my childhood religion makes my life much happier and full of meaning. Why would I not want to pass that same gift to my children whom I love deeply?

No, you don't need a belief in God to be a moral person, but for me, far from coercion, it puts my morality in context.

Daniel L.
Murray, UT

How interesting that teaching and instructing your children is now considered brainwashing. I also find it rather compelling that some one would state "Religion, which endorses force in this life" as if forced compliance is peculiar to a religious structure and not part of modern or ancient political institutions.

My point being that the biblical story is a cautionary tail of a people who had devoted themselves to following God and yet failed "miserably" resulting in their national destruction and scattering as a people throughout the world. As a history it's not very flattering, exposing their national faults. So would the references be for when they got it right, or when they were getting it wrong.

10eek
Lincoln County, ID

Way to go Ethan! My parents "brainwashed" me too! Let your light so shine!

donquixote84721
Cedar City, UT

When a child is born, they are much like a blank slate, in that they are only aware of their on basic needs, like hunger, fear, loneliness, discomfort. As they grew, and become aware of others around them, they consider what the Significant Others in their life do, as "normal." This is great if the Significant Others are practicing Jews, Catholics, Mormons, or other groups that value positive human traits, but it is also true if the Significant Others are Criminals, Abusers, chronically on welfare or in any other way dysfunctional. Approximately 80% of children become a mirror image of their same gender parent.

David
Centerville, UT

My parents taught me to not play in the road or I'd get hurt. I have taught that same thing to my children. How is that different than teaching a child to believe in God and to keep His commandments?

You can pretend that God does not exist. You can even believe and profess that God does not exist, and that there are no laws or commandments of God. But how is your belief system any different than my own? You are basing your beliefs upon your own line of reasoning. How does that prove that God does not exist?

So given that God does exist, why wouldn't I want to teach this to my children, along with not playing in the road?

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Before he retired I had a reformed Jewish friend at work. He told me of an Orthodox Jewish friend he has that when he goes to other peoples houses wouldn't eat off of there plates because perhaps they had contained non kosher foods. This is really ridiculous such restrictions don't contribute towards making a better person or a better world. To the extent that religion teaches a person to be a good person that is good, to the extent that religion gives silly little rules the person must abide by that's ridiculous.

What else besides brainwashing could explain why a person with live this way? So when the person accused the boy of being brainwashed perhaps he was right or perhaps he was wrong. One would have to know that boy to know for sure.

ThinksIThink
SEATTLE, WA

A number of posters support Ethan's parents brainwashing him. But will LDS missionaries knock on Ethan's door to tell him about the One True Church? If his brainwashing was good, why not leave him and the others be?

scwoz
gambier, oh

Example. It is how the Savior taught. You are a good example.

rj
Moss, Norway

I remember I had an instructor at the University of Utah who was vocally exasperated by the prevalence of the LDS church in Utah, strangely enough. She had the audacity to call me, and by extension all LDS, indoctrinated. I had no retort then, but in retrospect, she was right. I was indoctrinated to beleive a certain way that has guided my behavior and my choices for the good. This I would never take back, because the DOCTRINE I learned from my parents through our faith has had positive results in my life!

Indoctrination, though carrying a negative connotation, is unavoidable. My instructor prided herself on her ability to think freely and question critically, as if this were in direct opposition to the way I was brought up. It isn't, yet this is the doctrine insilled in her by her parents.

Either way, whatever doctrine is instilled in a child, it must ultimately be judged by its fruits, which hopefully are love, good works, tolerance, service and the like. There. That's my doctrine.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

What you live is what becomes comfortable. You trust your parents, so you follow their lead.

Brainwashing? I think not.

But, I would be that a very large majority of those in church pews belong to the same church as their parents.

How about if we use the term "Strongly Influenced"?

Lionheart
West Jordan, Ut

He who has been brain washed has a clean mind. Not a bad result.

defender
TWIN FALLS, ID

@ Thinksithink
You have a good point. If your comment is sincere about why our missionaries go door to door and share the gospel, (even to admirable people like this young man in the video) I would encourage you seek them out. Their reasons for doing so might surprise you.

sickofpolitics
morgan, ut

I am so tired of those who have no tolerance for others and yet are the first to scream intolerance. Our character, behavior and our reputation should be honorable, honest and clean. If you believe in a purple turtle in the sky to help you to be good, then so be it, but if you criticize people for being religious, then you are not focused on the results, just your own selfish need to be right, even at the expense of being wrong.

The Scientist
Provo, UT

Every human child comes into this world an atheist. Only through "brainwashing" and indoctrination does anyone come to believe in an invisible, omnipotent, omniscient, and questionably benevolent creature called a "god". But history has shown that belief in such a creature is not required in order to live a good life and, indeed, it is frequently the case that belief in such a creature actually distorts morality to such an extent as to influence individuals and groups to engage in some of the most immoral and despicable behavior known to the species.

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