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Published: Monday, Oct. 21 2013 7:45 p.m. MDT

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Chickenhawks
Kuna, ID

Reasonable Person, the baby would be paid for with the savings. Any emergency that occurs during the delivery would be covered by their normal health insurance. Why not put that money away yourself and save a ton of money.

Kellie
Orem, UT

The ACA website was rigged so no one could get on. Look at how easy it was for this guy to figure it out. He found out that he has to pay almost double which just happened to work out for him but the rest of America is going to go nuts, just in time before the next shut down occurs so Americans will see the truth and fix it.

Something to think about
Ogden, UT

I love all the comments that are presented as fact. Most of us have no real clue what the impact will be. Complain in a year when the reality of the law becomes known.

It would be nice if the DNEWs edited these comments for 'facts' not just 'hate, etc...'

Chickenhawks
Kuna, ID

slcjimmy: What does math have to do with green eggs and ham. A baby can be paid for by the savings, I've done it.

madsjim83
Layton, UT

I understand his move to shift the future cost of a deductible to a monthly premium. That is smart consumership. The only problem is that if he can afford $720 a month, then I suspect he could have found basic maternity coverage without the need for government subsidies and credits. Millions of people have made it happen before.

Through the subsidies and credits offered through the healthcare exchanges, we as taxpayers are now paying for his hope of having a child in 2014. This is irresponsible governance. It is not the taxpayers job to make him feel better if his wife happens to get pregnant. Why not save the $720 premium each month (that he clearly is able to pay NOW) in a short term bank CD and use it if he needs it? That way he keeps it in his control A healthy child can be delivered for approximately $7,000 to $8,000 out of pocket. If he is worried he could buy a cheap catastrophic health plan to cover themselves.

People refuse to be smart healthcare consumers. Yes, I want the ACA to fail. The sooner it does, the quicker meaningful healthcare reform happens.

kiddsport
Fairview, UT

Inexpensive dental insurance and maternity riders would be available had the Democrat congress allowed input from the other side of the aisle. The GOP plan called for purchases across state lines, allowing buyers to tailor their coverage to their specific needs.
If this gentleman has four children in ten years, he's paying $9,000 per delivery and he gets a smaller selection of doctors. I'm sure his selection is already diminished and the future will see more and more doctors dropping out of practice. How much is that worth?

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Please do not equate tithing with ANY other system of financing. On its face, tithing looks terribly regressive, as 10 percent of a poor person's income counts a lot more to him than 10 percent of a rich person's income does to the rich person. But people forget the blessings that come from the principle of the "widow's mite." The poor man who gives more also gets more blessings. I believe that because I have experienced it. IOW, tithing is NO argument for a flat tax. God and the government do not have the same capabilities.

Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

Obama to Ogden Man ... "You didn't find that"

slcjimmy
SLC, UT

@ Chicken hawk....My reply to your question was filtered by D.N...Go figure!

RedShirtMIT
Cambridge, MA

To "PTM" actually, of the 43 million uninsured about 38% could afford insurance, but choose not to buy it. Another 57% qualified for state and federal insurance programs but chose not to sign up. So in reality on 5% or 2.5 million couldn't afford it. That is less than 1% of the nation. That means that between government programs and private insurance 99% of the people could have been covered if they wanted to be.

ulvegaard
Medical Lake, Washington

It is a sad day in this country when it becomes news worthy for someone to actually navigate a mandatory government website which nearly all others have failed to do. We have been promised for the past several years on how much brighter and happier our lives would be because of the ACA -- and all those who worried that it wasn't all that it was promised to be have been condoned and laughed at. And now, it seems to be real news that someone has actually be able to wade through the mess. I fear this may be rare news in deed.

Utah Girl
Vernal, UT

There is no way we could afford to pay $720 a month for medical insurance! I only hope my husband's insurance at work doesn't increase a lot. I am 66 and would love to retire. My husband is 60 and has some health issues, but neither of us can think of retirement for several more years.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

Irony Guy

What blessings does a poor person get for giving %10 of their already meager wages to an already rich corporation - other then having %10 less money. Be specific.

katy
salt lake city, ut

It's good that many insurance premiums are less under Obamacare, but I don't understand how the government can make up the difference of the premiums. The government does not have any way to make money - they don't have any money except for the taxes the citizens pay.

I also heard that millions of dollars was paid to Canadians to write the program for this health care program. I thought Silicone valley in Northern Calif. had the best and most experienced programers. Wouldn't it be better to keep money here in the USA so our people would have more jobs and pay more taxes here?

PTM
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@RedshirtMIT

'Another 57% qualified for state and federal insurance programs'. My comment was not primarily directed at those who chose not to purchase insurance (although that has an important impact), but at the private sector's ability to offer an affordable product to all Americans. The idea that a private company can provide affordable health insurance in a free market is not true. And by your numbers 57% of the uninsured couldn't afford private insurance. Either the state or federal government had to intervene. And in truth the most important ACA intervention is the one that requires most all to participate. Either that or let people die in the ER because they don't have insurance.

Kafantaris
WARREN, OH

First we demonized it.
Then we challenged it, with vengeance.
It was deemed sound, so we needed to starve it.
But it wouldn’t die and we finally had to strangle it -- by shutting down the government.
It's till around, tattered and limping.
And it's not working smoothly.
Well there you have it: Proof positive it’s not any good.

RedShirtMIT
Cambridge, MA

To "PTM" you also should realize that up to 50% of the cost of insurance is compliance with the mandates that come from government.

Lets look at it this way. If it wasn't for government, the $8000/yr that a basic insurance policy costs right now, would cost $4000. Read "Email inShare.0The Cost of Health Insurance Mandates in Washington" at Washington Policy Center.

How do you expect insurance companies to offer a cheaper product when the cost to comply with the mandates drives a significant portion of the cost?

PTM
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@ Redshirt

I read the article. As I read it, those mandates are there to set a threshold, so when people get health insurance, it covers a set number of services at a minimum. You can argue what those should be, but that is intent. And the article states the mandates 'cost' 20 to 50 percent. So your $4000 could just as well be $6400. But the implication that mandates cost, but don't provide value is false. Services are available for that increased cost. And I have no problem with insurance companies making a reasonable profit. The government has an inportant role to play. They may not do it perfectly, but then again health insurance companioes aren't perfect either.

thenoiz
South Ogden, UT

You're all missing the bigger issue here!

The guy is barefoot, wearing a suit jacket.

Somehow I think it would be easier to build a time machine, go back to 1995, find a fax machine and then fax in my application for Obamacare.

Clydesdale
Tooele, UT

Now I'll laugh when he finds out his identity was stolen. LOL

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