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Published: Monday, Oct. 21 2013 7:45 p.m. MDT

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A1994
Centerville, UT

"...if you log in using a special kind of Web browser in a special mode..." and Jupiter is aligned with Mars, and you hold the 'rabbit ears' on top of the T.V. with one hand and hold a screw driver in the other...

Wow. What a system. You have to 'Jail Break' the Health Care website to get signed up. I wonder what loop hole one can use to get out of this law completely.

Daniel Leifker
San Francisco, CA

The web site is not the problem. The problem is the law itself and its unintended consequences of raising medical insurance costs for ordinary people who have worked hard and played by the rules. And if you're still advocating for single-payer health care from this government, remember that managing health care for 317 million Americans is at least 100 times harder than building a web site. After this disaster, I wouldn't trust the government to build a page on Facebook with kitten photos.

Vegas POV
Las Vegas, NV

For those who care, health care premium raised from $5040 to $8140. Cost of healthcare + deductible is raised from $7040 to $9140.

The.Canuck
Tooele, UT

This Chrome incognito trick doesn't work.

I get an error at security question prompts and still can't create a login after two weeks of trying.

And yes affordable health care mean more expensive premiums. My work insurance is going up by almost double.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Vegas POW
"For those who care, health care premium raised from $5040 to $8140."

Considering the legal limits to how much premiums can be as a percentage of income, I'd love to know how you could possibly have an income high enough for the Obamacare percentage to come to that... while simultaneously not having employer health insurance.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

I sincerely hope that this does not get back to HHS.
Obama Care needs to fail on every front.

wwookie
Payson, UT

Atl,
That is a good question. I would also like to know how everything else that was promised about this new program has been a bold faced lie.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"I sincerely hope that this does not get back to HHS.
Obama Care needs to fail on every front."

Gee. And I would have thought that the best outcome would be for the ACA to succeed.

Silly me.

What is really sad is that people would rather it fail so they can score political points.
Shouldn't we all hope that it succeeds and ultimately brings down the total cost?

(and no, you, me or the experts are not smart enough to know the answer to that yet)

postaledith
Freeland, WA

There are several states like Washington where you can sign up through their own website. Ours is Washington State.gov. I had no problem applying and signing up. I look forward to getting help with my medical needs.

EastCoastAcorn
Ridgefield, CT

Apparently Randall doesn't understand that under ObamaCare he will spend an additional $3600 in annual ObamaCare "taxes" (monthly premium increased by $300) in order to save $1500 in annual healthcare deductible. So his net healthcare spending will rise by $2100. Those numbers don't add up very well. I prefer to keep my old healthcare coverage.

bigv56
Cottonwood, CA

Wow health care costs are lower. Only 300 dollrs more a month. My daughters went from 400 to 1200 per month uncle Barry just wants to help us. With friends like this....

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

The headline sets readers up for the usual nail the ACA ect., ect., ect..

Scanning the piece readers find...

"...Bennett said before signing up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, he was paying a $420 monthly premium with a $2,000 annual deductible. Now he’ll be paying a $720 premium and a $500 deductible, but his family also will be getting maternity and dental coverage — something the Bennetts couldn't get before...".

Ok...so it is a nail the ACA...but, wait...

"...his family also will be getting maternity and dental coverage-something the Bennetts couldn't get before...".

This is beginning to read like a nail the ACA piece gone bad...

“...The process to even get insurance before was so difficult that surprisingly, even with all the bugs, I still find HealthCare.gov more simple,” Bennett said. “So for us this is a huge win, because we’re paying what we think is fair. And yes it’s more than before, but we actually have coverage that we like now...”.

Not good...not good at all...

Demonizing the ACA has been so much fun...

Why report a success story?

Dante
Salt Lake City, UT

Many Americans hope that Obamacare succeeds more than the devastating socialized medicine programs in Europe and Canada. They blissfully trust that somehow Obamacare will ultimately bring down the total cost of healthcare, despite the fact that no government-managed program of any kind--certainly not health care--has ever proved more efficient or reduced costs vis-a-vis the private sector. So long as they individually get help from Uncle Sugar with their medical needs, they have no concern that the country as a whole goes bankrupt into the dustbin of history.

PTM
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@Dante

The private sector hasn't been able to provide coverage for all 350 million of us. A large segment of the 43 million are without coverage because they can't afford the price. So much for right pricing. Another segment are excluded because of existing conditions, that's reducing the company's risk and your premiums. And the other segment are the 'I don't need health insurance, oops until I need it' segment. Two out of three are on the insurance companies. So no, the private sector doesn't have a product that is affordable and available to all. If they did the ACA would have come into existence.

PTM
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Oops, correction to the last sentence in my post.

If they did the ACA would not have come into existence.

Leo Femedlers
El Paso, TX

I was listening to a good friend give a talk in Church this past Sunday. The topic was tithing. He is a CPA and mentioned in his talk that he has had opportunity to review the US tax code. He said it was voluminous and hard to understand. He then compared that to the law of tithing and contrasted the differences. I then thought how successful and prosperous the church has been under the law of tithing. I mentioned that thought to my friend after the meeting was over. He thought for a moment and said "Yes, I think one of the biggest differences is that tithe payers have ownership." Hmm...

I agree and have seen that "ownership" in my life and in the lives of others. When individuals and familys have ownership in an organization they and the organization they are associated with tend to perform much better.

Any program designed to dole goods and services without providing opportunities for ownership will not be effective in reaching its goals. I do not expect the ACA to provide any of the benefits that were stated as selling points.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

If something seems too good to be true...
Someone is going to pay more. Period.
You can't absorb the uninsured and the cost of preexisting condition and the cost of lifetime caps...and expect it to cost LESS.
Insurance companies have been doing managed care for decades now, paying flat rates, asking questions about the necessity of procedures, requiring second opinions and tracking down fraud for 30 years. Do you really think the federal government can do a better job at streamlining?
Something's gotta give. The middle class will take the brunt of the burden.
Anyone who thinks ACA is going to do all it promises and not cost us more money is simply out-of-touch with reality. The introductory offers will go up to pay the cost of care.
And care will be harder to get with millions more using the medical infrastructure in the USA.

Chickenhawks
Kuna, ID

I don't get his reasoning for liking the new insurance. His premium increased by 300 per month. His annual premium went from 5040 per year to 8640 per year. He is paying 3600 more per year for his plan. I don't get it! That is 36,000 over 10 years folks! WHAT A DEAL THIS IS!!!!! Go Crazy Barry the Insurance Salesman!

Reasonable Person
Layton, UT

Chickenhawk: you missed the part about now having maternity coverage.

slcjimmy
SLC, UT

@ Reasonable Person....Chickenhawk (Really?) misses more then just the part concerning maternity coverage. (Hanitty didn't go over this in last night's show!) Green Eggs & ham anyone?

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