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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 22 2013 8:15 a.m. MDT

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idaho cougar fan
Twin Falls, ID

I just wonder how high BYU would be if they would have beat Virginia and Utah. I hate losing to the Utes, but it is not a bad loss. If the Utes can't win on the road it will turn into a bad loss. The Virginia loss looks worse and worse each week. I wish they could have that back. If BYU wins out, they will be in the top 20 of the BCS, maybe even 15 if they get some help. That means Utah has to keep winning games so it looks like a good loss and not a bad loss.

Chris_B
Salt Lake City, UT

I am so happy that the BYU Cougars have the BEST average ranking out of the three Utah schools. They have earned it. And, I'm soooo excited to see they have the best ATHLETES too.

MacNasty
Rexburg, ID

Mid-season rankings are interesting, but not at all definitive. Teams can win out and teams can nose dive and teams will win some and lose some. That is why the only valid rankings are the final rankings after a season's body of work is completed. Only totally ignorant individuals believe a team's superiority or inferiority are determined by one regular season game. The final polls will determine BYU, USU and Utah will stand at the end of the season.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

Interesting to see the complete BCS standings. BYU is sandwiched behind the team they beat (Houston) and in front of the next opponent (Boise State).

Utah will recover from what happened next week. Shultz was serviceable in replacing Wilson. He will likely increase his production having a week of reps under his belt.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Is anyone surprised? I'm not and I know this won't bode well with the 'kids on the hill'.

There's a good possibility as Taysom and team improves that a 9-3 or 10-2 is in reach.

Go Cougars!

And meanwhile back near East High...

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

The real Chris B is not going to be happy with these rankings. Lol. How could and indy be ranked higher than a team from the elite, conference of champions? These rankings must be a bad dream, right?

Congrats Cougs. The progress the team has made is amazing! Early prediction - by the end of his career, Hill's name will be uttered in the same breath as McMahon, Young and Detmer.

Stang08
Southern, UT

I'm not a big fan of any of the big two and USU. But Utah is number 1 in the state, BYU is number 2. And USU is at best 3. At the very best number 3.

BleedCougarBlue
Enid, OK

Rankings from (in order) USA Today, CBS Sports, Segarin, BCS standings....

BYU: 33, 30, 28, 36, with an average of 31.75
Utah: 51, 42, 35, 43, with an average of 42.75
USA: 67, 70, 40, 79, with an average of 64.0

Seriously, I'd love to hear from any reasonable Utah fan as to why their team is better than BYU. And, please, don't even try "we beat you" because at least FOUR nationally-known syndicates/football agencies don't see it that way.

RSLfanalways
West Valley, UT

Quarterbacks are dropping everywhere in Utah. Hill better play safe or losing Hill will hurt BYU like it did to USU and Ute's. If Hill stays good, I could see BYU getting the best bowl out of the three teams, then USU and lastly Ute's (I do think the Ute's can get 6 wins this year but it will be tough).

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

And yet, end of the season rankings don't tell the full story either. The team that takes a shot in the chops (Texas), may be jolted, may even stumble out of the rankings entirely. Does it mean that, at the time they played, they weren't as good as thought?

Is BYU a better team than Utah? At least for the time being, due to Utah's Jekyll and Hyde disposition, all the people whose opinion matters seem to think so. Will it still be that way by the end of the season? We'll see.

But isn't the ride fun? At least for BYU, right now, it is.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Can this weekly induction process of subjective reasoning over who is better stop? The Desnews does this every week. Are they trying to cancel losing to Utah.

BYU might go 9-3. If so, great for BYU. Don't be blind to reason though. They wouldn't be 9-3 with a PAC 12 schedule.

@Idaho Cougar Fan

I would want the Virginia game back if I was you as well. BYU is obviously the better team there. BYU is also better than Houston but fortunate to win that game. The crazy big plays for Houston kept them in the game. Still, despite BYU's strong defense, they have long been vulnerable to giving up big plays on games they lose. Teams that can throw deep (think San Jose State) can exploit BYU.

As a Ute fan, there are games I would also like back. All three losses were winnable. But Utah has had three close wins as well.

Very few teams, even good ones, are going to win all their games against teams close to them in ability. Alabama and Oregon blow everyone away. But they are also both corrupt programs.

The Virginia loss was awful like Utah's loss to Colorado.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Rankings are a joke. They often benefit BYU over Utah because of BYU's brand name, fan population and exposure.

Justifications by BYU fans as to what the so called experts say is silly to reason. College football is corrupt and protects its' image programs. It always has, and no BCS modification is likely to change that in my opinion.

Here is an example of what a joke these ranking systems are from 2011: Utah finished 8-5 with a PAC 12 schedule that year (4-5 in conference) with nice out of conference road wins at BYU 54-10 and Pittsburgh 26-14 at Heinz field (Plus they won the Sun Bowl). BYU was 10-3 but beat 7 patsies (UCF, San Jose State, Idaho State, Idaho, New Mexico State, Hawaii, and Tulsa). Outside of those 7 laughable games, BYU was 3-3 which included getting pounded by Utah in Provo. Yet they got ranked.

I mean seriously? BYU was no where near ranked after week 9. Then they finish the season with four straight wins against Idaho, New Mexico State, Hawaii, and Tulsa. Do those four games earn you a ranking? Come on now, be objective.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

@ Y Dad/Y Dad

You wrote "all the people whose opinion matters seem to think so" in your take of who is better.

Look, I often enjoy your comments and I am not bothered by your comments here necessarily. But do you buy into all the opinions and reports of all major entities?

Much of what we see, hear and read about from sources of great wealth are skewed greatly. I don't care if it's FOX News, MSNBC, CNN, BBC, Al Jezeera, the BCS, Sagarin ratings, USA Today, any government, or corporate entity. Junk information abounds.

It's best to tell who is the better team on the field. But that's not perfect either. I understand some reasons for BYU fans to feel they are better than Utah. Match ups play a part. Teams do lose to teams that are close to equal everywhere across the country each week unless you are Alabama and Oregon.

BYU is superior to Virginia and San Jose State but lost to both of those teams the last two years. Utah losing to Colorado is another example. The problem with comparing Utah to BYU is that their schedules are not comparable.

worf
Mcallen, TX

BYU are the state champs, but with Boise State, Wisconsin, and Notre Dame,-how can a BCS Bowl game be any better?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Both BYU, and Utah could falter. Utah State may end the year with the best rankings.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

byu should be ranked really close to #number 1
Utah really closer to about # 1,00

worf
Mcallen, TX

Stang08:

If BYU isn't the best team in Utah, than why is Stanford rated higher then the Utes?

Doesn't make any sense.

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

Rankings don’t mean nothing because we won byu and we are in a bcs conference and we have more stars and that makes us the best over byu.

Frozen Chosen
Savage, MN

Too bad about Wilson being hurt, I think Utah could've beat USC with him at QB. Probably not much chance of winning with a back-up QB, however, even though USC stinks this year.

Waylon77
Logan, UT

When you lose to a team, you don't get the priveledge of saying that you are better than that team. Can you think of any better way of determining which of two teams is better than by having them play each other and see who wins? That is kind of the way that championships are determined in the sporting world. BYU may have a better record, but the long and short of it is that Utah has BYU's number. BYU hasn't beaten Utah in 4 years, and has absolutely no claim to the title of best football team in Utah.

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