There is an old saying among coaches: "You coach your team and I'll
coach mine."There is an old saying among league commissioners:
"Your fine for saying that is $x."Alliotti is likely to be
reminded of both this week.
Alliotti is a classless idiot for saying this to a reporter! It is one thing to
think something like this, which I still disagree with, but quite another to
publish it.If my team were behind, I would not want them to give up
even if we were impossibly behind. I would want a team that has no quit in them.
Now, I might put some subs in to give them some experience, but we would not
stop playing our best!
We've had the same issues in Utah high school football.Years
ago the Timpanogos and Orem coaches nearly came to blows when Timpanogos in a
blowout loss kept trying to hard to score against Orem after it subbed out its
varsity players. And of course there was the famous two attempts by
Timpview of an onside kick in a game in 2007 against rival Provo ahead 42-0
which resulted in Provo running off the field and refusing to shake hands when
the game ended.
Alliotti was right to worry, but not complain.Florida St jumped
Oregon in the BCS poll today.1 Alabama, 2 Florida St, 3 Oregon
As I recall LaVell had pulled Marc Wilson and someone in the booth had been told
by Paul James or his staff that He was tied for a record number of completions
and he needed one more to set the record. LaVell put him in, made it a simple
completion for little game and he pulled him. It didn't affect the game
but LaVell felt bad about it and decided not to do it again.For a
team down like Washington St that was down so much it's just good practice
time for his people to work on game skills. It doesn't hurt Oregon, they
also get to give 3rd stringers live game experience so I don't see the
beef. It's not low class. Griping about it is silly. What didn't he
think Washington St.was paid for a full game?
I agree with SLCWatch. For Oregon to complain because Washington State kept
playing hard, playing to win, is silly.
O-Live headline from today: "Oregon defensive coordinator Nick Aliotti
apologizes for comments about Mike Leach: 'The bottom line is, I'm
sorry' "Funny thing about apologies...We're told that
we should accept them and move on. But it's always hard to do especially
when the infraction was so knuckleheaded and deliberate. If the guy (Aliotti) is
such a class guy, he wouldn't have made such a boneheaded statement to
begin with. I mean it obvious that he meant every word that he said.
@eagleIt depends on the situation and what the team is trying to do.
If you are losing big you still want your team to keep trying and playing hard,
no one should question that. If you are up 40+ points and kicking onsides then
you are simply being classless. Now that said I do not expect a team that is
winning big to stop playing either, they should keep doing their thing and
running their offense. If they want to put in backups, or keep in the starters,
that is their decision, but they should continue to play as well. If they are
running the things they normally run then I would have no problem with it, it is
the other teams responsibility to stop them at some point. But no one kicks
onside kicks as a regular part of their game plan. It is a completely
situational thing, generally employed when a team is behind late and trying to
come back. But trying one when you're up 40+ is simply classless and is
indicative of the type of person the coach is.
Give me break, USU's Bentrude saw that New Mexico set up a really crappy
defense and he took advantage of it. The play shows good training by the USU
staff and excellent recognition skills by Bentrude. And don't forget the
only reason USU was punting at all was that a massive number of substitution had
already been taking place (since almost the start of the second half). Had we
left the starters in a bit longer the score would have been in the 50s or even
60s by that point in the game. Bentride deserves congratulations, not push back.
It will be a great story that very few punters ever get to tell.I
think USU likely wins out, but unfortunately I think Boise probably will as
well. USU goes bowling, but odds are it won't play in the MWCC game.
Give it up already. Everybody knows that Kyle Whittingham is a great coach and
a classy guy.
@JS Harvey:"I think USU likely wins out, but unfortunately I
think Boise probably will as well."I think not. Maybe Boise St.
has a chance to do so after getting beat this weekend in Provo.Go
@DuckhunterIt seems you're the only one on this planet that
never makes mistakes. What Wyoming learned that day was not to
guarantee a win against Utah. What Kyle learned that day was how to be humble,
considering there was no on-side-kick when we were up 54-10.Unlike
BYU, Washington State didn't quit playing after being exposed at home.
Is it that Oregon wants to get into the champonship game, and their only door is
to blow out everyone they play? Or was it about sportmanship? You
decide.Mark BTW and OT. attended the BYU v Houston game
on Saturaday. My hats off to No. 4. I was wrong. He is learning how to pass
and with a lot of zip, a lot of zip. Boy the ref sure struggled. My favorte
play. We, the visting crowd, made so much noise, a home team quarterback ended
up with a delay of game. Never seen that before in all of the watching
football. And boy the special teams for Houston were unbelievable. That punter
they had, wow!
I let others decide what they think is classless. I have always wanted my
players to go 100% on the court.Now, if the game is decided, and we
can dribble out the shot clock... Only because that is the best way from getting
hurt.Duckhunter and Uteology's comments were fine. The last
sentence of both post's could have been left out. It just shows they are
basically just homers.
@The SolutionWhether or not Boise beats the Y has no impact on the
conference standings or championship game, for Boise it is just filler. They
(like the Y) would of course like to win the game, but it has no real influence
on the season for them.Since Boise lost their quarterback I think
the Y might pull off the win.
@John S. HarveyI don't know John. BYU has literally never
beaten Boise. Until the Y actually does win a game against them, I gotta side
with the Broncos. Every time I think the wheels are going to fall
off the Boise bus... they don't. Just look at last year's game between
the schools. Boise didn't score an offensive touchdown and STILL WON. Peterson > Mendenhall
If you're not going to play hard and do your best for the ENTIRE game,
regardless of the score, you shouldn't be on the field/court. Anything less
than everything you've got is an insult to the other team, and even more so
to the spectators who paid to see an ENTIRE game.And for those on
the losing side of a lopsided game, you're going to have a lot of epic
failures throughout your life. Get used to it and use getting pummeled as an
opportunity to become a stronger, better, more patient individual.It's not the other team's fault that you weren't good enough to
keep up.If you don't like it, get better.
SambonethegreatSalt Lake City, UT"Peterson >
Mendenhall"That doesn't hurt too bad. Peterson >
____________(fill in the blank).Not many coaches better than
Peterson.Not many coaches better than Mendenhall for BYU.And Bronco has proven that he's better than most, Honor Code
Giving players, especially 2nd and 3 depth players, the chance to use their
skills on defense or offense is legitimate, not poor sportsmanship. Mike Leach
was born with his hair on fire, get over it. When a team is ahead by a large
margin, pass plays, on-side kicks or trick plays are another matter.
I believe in giving opportunities to play and develop even when the game is
decided. Let 2nd and 3rd string players play hard and learn. Let a young team
playing and losing badly to one of the elite 2-3 teams in the country keep
trying. Take advantage of a large lead (or trailing by a large margin) to
practice something risky--that is more likely to fail and give the opponent good
field position--to gain experience for when it might be needed.The
Oregon comments, I believe, had little to do with what Washington State did, but
rather Oregon trying to impress voters in the BCS poll--not computers because
the computers are required to only consider wins and losses and not margins of
victory.That New Mexico left itself vulnerable to a fake punt
probably means they had given up. I would not sanction the USU punter, nor the
coach, for taking advantage of an opportunity that presented itself.
UteologyEast Salt Lake City, UtahYou may not want to talk
about being exposed at home.
While I'm among those that thinks Aliotti is on the wrong side of this
debate, if the final point differential between Oregon and WSU had ANYTHING to
do with Oregon dropping to 3rd behind FSU in the BCS rankings, it shows yet
again what a complete travesty the BCS has been. Think of it - If Alabama,
Florida State and Oregon all win out, the Ducks could very easily be left out of
the national championship game. What then? Would we all look back at Aliotti
with the the same disdain we feel today? Or would it shift to Mike Leach?!Good riddance, BCS.
@az uteWe would still look back at aliotti with the same disdain and
would not shift anything to leach. It is aliotti's job to stop other teams
from scoring and he couldn't get it done. Why does leach owe aliotti
anything? It is leach's job to keep trying hard and to improve his team, it
isn't his problem, or concern, if oregon gets left out of the bcs
championship because their defense isn't very good.