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Utah Utes football notebook: Starting quarterback Travis Wilson's status is uncertain

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  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2013 3:16 p.m.

    sammy

    Yeah, it's been great to beat the Cougs, but it hasn't been the most important thing.

    Utes have moved on to elite conference play, and are gaining improvement and success.

    BYU has more insecure fans than they would care to admit.

    Love the Utes' progress. Especially over their bitter rival. It drives Cougs fans insane.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    sparkly

    "In all of Utah's losses, they were in position to win late in the game with the outcomes in doubt to the last few minutes."

    And yet you and your cronies would never afford the same kind statement to the Cougars that lost on the final play of how many games with the Utes, with Boise, etc.

    Nice rose colored glasses you wear.

    The end of the season decides the war, not the little battles and national recognition and honors is what matters most... especially to those bowl-less in December whining about not getting any.

    Utes are the biggest whiners and in the biggest denial trip about these things. Ute fans make the biggest squawk about this rivalry when the majority of fans state they've moved on when in reality they haven't, they won't and they can't because they are not winning where they are at.

    Yeah, it would be great to beat the Utes but it's not the most important thing.

    BYU has moved on to independence and is gaining success.

    Utes have not though insecure fans think they have.

    Love the BYU recognition. It drives Ute fans crazy.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Oct. 23, 2013 6:25 a.m.

    Talkin nonsense,

    No distortion. Utah has played very well against 3 teams in the top 25, winning one and losing two. This tells me that the Utes are a pretty good, but not elite team. Utah drilled BYU in Provo. I know that you and Dr Tators can throw nonsense out there about yards gained, mindset, etc. and note that the final score was only 7 points difference, but at no time during the second half did you or anyone else watching that game think that the Cougs were going to win. They were drilled! In all of Utah's losses, they were in position to win late in the game with the outcomes in doubt to the last few minutes. That was against VERY good teams. Beating up inferior competition and getting your rear ends handed to you on the field does not make you the better team. Maybe we should all not play the game on the field and declare the winner based on analytical review? I think the Utes go to a bowl game this year. We will just have to wait and see. The question about whether Utah is better than BYU has already been answered.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 22, 2013 5:23 p.m.

    Sparkley Briefs

    "Too bad that the only thing that counts is the scoreboard."

    Try to remember that when the Utes are once again spending bowl week on the couch while Stanford is once again playing in the Rose Bowl.

    I'm sure that thought was very comforting to Texas A&M last season as the Aggies were watching Alabama beat Notre Dame in the BCS championship game.

    Too bad Utah fans are so entrenched in their own distorted view of the world that they are blind to the reality that one game does not a season make.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Oct. 22, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    Tators,

    I think that you have probably put in enough pages of useless analysis, rationalization, psychoanalydis, and speculation in your never ending quest to convince yourself that the team that got drilled at home by their rival is the better team to earn a PhD in philosophy. Congratulations Dr Tators!

    Too bad that the only thing that counts is the scoreboard.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    @ Elmer Fudd:

    You keep trying to convince us what a mediocre team Texas is... in-spite of them just beating #12 team in the country and having a better record that Utah. (Funny that when Utah beats a ranked team, they are considered great. But when anyone else even remotely associated with BYU does it, that team is "overrated"). Also, literally all major polls and national ratings services now have Texas ranked better than Utah. So if Texas is so mediocre, what does that say about how Utah should be considered?

    BTW: The "very mediocre BYU" team that you so labeled is currently ranked better than Texas, who in turn is ranked better than Utah. The more you try to diss such teams, the worse you are making the Utes look. So according to you and the polls, Utah is now definitely worse than 'very mediocre" teams. Certainly doesn't say much for how you must feel about Utah. Going to be a long season for some Ute fans. BYU hasn't lost since then and Utah has lost all but once. Things have changed a lot since September 21st.

  • Y>U Anaheim, CA
    Oct. 21, 2013 10:17 p.m.

    Magic Happens

    "Re: Lonestar

    You left off the only statistic that matters."

    Final record and ranking are yet to be determined, but it's not looking good for the Utes.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 6:03 p.m.

    BeSmart
    In another thread, you attempted to correct me by stating that the game would have gone into overtime had the Houston receiver caught the two-point conversion. Sounds like we all need to get our facts straight.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    Utes lost to a supposed inferior team that's all that needs to be said, with or without there NFL QB throwing I N T's

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Oct. 21, 2013 3:35 p.m.

    What a shame; the u lost another game.

  • Magic Happens Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 2:37 p.m.

    Re: Lonestar

    You left off the only statistic that matters.

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    @ Tators

    "Why do you think Texas is overrated? Just because BYU beat them? Don't let your negative biases get into your way of thinking. Texas just beat a very good #12 ranked Oklahoma on Saturday, they have a better record than Utah and also lead the Big 12 conference. Those facts make your comment seem pretty uninformed"

    Because they lost to a very mediocre BYU team and exposed by a decent Ole Miss team. Their win over Oklahoma doesn't mean their the best team in the Big 12. The Sooners are overrated like they are every year. Their 3 Big 12 wins aren't that great! Kansas State is in a down year, they almost lost to Iowa State (which should have been a loss). But they are 3-0 as of right now, but we'll see for sure what kind of team Texas is this year when they reach their final four conference games (@ West Virginia, #19 Oklahoma State, #10 Texas Tech, @ #8 Baylor). As of right now, Texas hasn't shown they're a great team, just a mediocre team.

    With your reasoning then you would agree that Stanford and UCLA are not overrated based on your Texas argument?

  • goforit Provo, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    Utah and BYU are similar in so many ways. 1) delusional fan bases both think they are elite programs while the other is lousy. 2)Both are supporting barely above average teams. 3) Neither team is having a great season. 4) Both teams have tough talented quarterbacks. 5) Both claim to be young teams, but really have many seniors that will be hard to replace.

    This is on fan who reads these comments because they are better than the comics. Keep them coming.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    I hope Wilson's injury isn't season ending. The Utes still have a lot of work to do to just become bowl eligible and I think Wilson gives them the best shot. I also agree with an above post that throwing your backup into their first start at the coliseum is a tough task for anyone. I guess we will know more as the week progresses but I'm hoping for the best.

    No matter who plays that game, the Utes need to have a better start. I would like to see them stop a team on the first possession rather than allowing them to march down the field for a touch down. They have put themselves in a hole in every conference game this year.

    Go Utes!

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Oct. 21, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    Not sure keeping injuries a secret is really to Utah's advantage if the Utes are going to play injured players anyway.

    Good luck to Travis on a speedy recovery.

    Giving an untested quarterback his first start, on the road, against USC doesn't sound like a winning formula for success.

  • agb Layton, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    UteNationAlum:

    Who are all these Y fans beating their chests about beating Houston? The only person that even brings up the Houston game is Tators and he's not exactly 'beating his chest.'

    Sounds like you wanted to bring up BYU but needed a strawman.

    While he has had his struggles, I personally admire Travis Wilson. He has played hard through a lot of adversity this year. Here's to a speedy recovery.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    @ Elmer Fudd:

    Why do you think Texas is overrated? Just because BYU beat them? Don't let your negative biases get into your way of thinking. Texas just beat a very good #12 ranked Oklahoma on Saturday, they have a better record than Utah and also lead the Big 12 conference. Those facts make your comment seem pretty uninformed.

    Do you know how many PAC12 teams Utah has lost multiple times to? By your reasoning, that means that all of them "own" Utah. That's pretty sad and doesn't leave you much to brag about.

    @ UteNationAlum:

    I just went back and read all the comments on this article. I couldn't find any that could be contrived as "Y fans beating their chests after beating Houston". Most were commenting on Utah's game. As such, your comments seem to portray a bit of paranoia and also some of what you accuse the Y fan base of... some delusion.

    The fact is, the Y beat an unbeaten, conference-leading team and on the road. Nothing wrong in taking some pride in that. I'm sorry Utah lost to a mediocre team this week. But don't take it out on others.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 11:28 a.m.

    UteNationAlum

    LOL at these inconsistent U fans whining about BYU barely beating a 5-0 team, while the Utes were losing to a very weak 4-2 team that, besides Utah, has only beaten N Ariz, UNLV(4-3), and UTSA(2-5).

    You're that team that is ranked below BYU in almost every national ranking.

    USA Today
    #33 BYU
    #51 Utah

    Sagarin
    #28 BYU
    #35 Utah

    College Football Ranking Composite(95 rankings)
    #25 BYU
    #33 Utah

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    @ Samurai Jake:

    If you don't let a negative bias get in your way, you'd see that it's a positive for Utah whenever BYU now wins. Each time they do so, itt improves Utah's strength of schedule... and consequently their rankings which factor those things in.

    Also, if you happened to have watched all of BYU's game, you would've noticed that BYU also had miscues (especially some penalties that the announcers, after tv reviews said were "tough calls" ... meaning questionable calls) that would've given BYU a much easier win. Would-have's and should-have's are all part of the game and usually go both ways.
    As a side note, BYU had many more sustained drives, triple digit more yardage, double digit more first downs and much more time of possession in their game. Those facts make it hard to argue that they didn't deserve their win against Houston.

    That said, I was impressed with how Utah's backup qb came in and provided a much needed spark for his team. In fact, he lead them to their only lead in the game and also had better stats.

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    LOL at all these Y fans on hear beating their chest after barely getting by a very weak Houston team. There is not a more delusional fan base in all of college football. Aren't we that team you lost to again this year for the 4th time in a row?

    No excuses for me hear. We didn't play well. Period. Our coaches need to do a better job of getting our team ready. Arizona played great.

    Go UTES!

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 21, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    Samurai Jake
    Just to clarify the Houston receiver dropped a two point conversion which could have changed the game.
    BYU also threw a pick in the endzone.
    Utah would have won (I think) with a healthy qb.
    But don't comment on another game you must not have payed much attention to.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    Tough losses, both the game and the quarterback. Now we know firsthand how Utah State feels. It doesn't help when TDS wins a sloppy shootout with Houston, after the Houston receiver dropped an easy touchdown in the end zone that would have given them the victory.

    This is why I took up golf!

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    @ Hochmut

    Stanford and UCLA are overrated? haha! Just a typical BYU fan trying to discredit our conference and our strength of schedule. After losing to Utah, Stanford just cleaned #9 ranked UCLA's clock. If there is an overrated team in college football this year it's Texas and Boise State. Oh and BYU still lost to Utah making it 4 in a row and 9 of the last 12. Utah OWNS BYU!

  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    Yes indeed three close losses with an objective excuse for each. But alas, also three close wins when each team had a chance to win in the waning moments ie BYU, Utah State and Stanford. Luck goes both ways and 50% is about all one can ask for.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    Does someone have details information to share as to exactly what Wilson's hand injury is ?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    Give credit where credit is due. Travis and his backup each played approximately half the game each. Travis had the Utes down 2 or 3 scores when he left. His backup came in and eventually gave Utah their only lead of the game and did so without any interceptions and with better stats than Wilson had. There is a valid reason the players have confidence in him.

    Congratulations to Chris B for making an entire comment without including a dig at BYU. Doesn't happen often. But when it does, it shows signs of improvement and some maturity.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "this team can not win a conference road game"

    True

    Utah hasn't had a road win versus a PAC team with a winning record since 1996, at, ironically, Stanford 17-10.

    The Utes even struggled to beat 11-loss Colorado 42-35 on the road last season, and were lucky to beat Washington St on the road in 2011.

  • Brad J West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    @Chris B

    Is Utah ranked yet?

  • Hochmut West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    UCLA was overrated; Stanford was and still is overrated; Utah's win over Stanford just wasn't that impressive, but now showing their lack of depth, Utah is just a mediocre team at best. Beware of the Colorado Buffalos...they will win in the "rival" game with Utah!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    It makes no difference who's at QB, this team can not win a conference road game, and after 3 years in the PAC 12; that's pretty sad. At this point, just win a road game, then maybe we can think about a bowl game. Until then, nothing is for certain. The Arizona loss was about as dissapointing as they come. The Arizona schools are pretty much in the middle of the PAC 12, and Utah can't beat them. Sad, but true.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:13 a.m.

    LOL at my little sister's spin this morning.

    Let's review her predictions:

    Guaranteed win over Arizona: Arizona 35 Utah 24
    8-4 record: at 4-3, with @USC, ASU, and @Oregon up next, not a chance
    PAC South contender: at 1-3, and likely 1-6, not a chance
    Rose Bowl contender: the Utes will be lucky to be bowl eligible

    Once again, the only thing the Utes have to look forward to is the annual pillow fight in the Rockies to determine who gets to spend the long cold winter in the PAC basement.

  • goaggies1 Clinton/Davis, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    This looks like a Utah State problem now. Hurt QB sounds like no wins left for the Utes this year. Your defense will be on the field way too long and just get beat up. Maybe Chucky and Wilson can share stories for the rest of the season. Hopefully Wilson can get better and play some more games this year.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    Shulz looked great I thought. We have the "problem" now of too many good QB's, whereas a few years ago we couldn't find a single one. I think the team truly does have confidence in either guy, whereas before when we said that we didn't really mean it.

    Go Utes!
    Onward and Upward

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    If Wilson don't get hurt we would of won them by 52.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 3:19 a.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    Go read my reply to you on page three of the 'Comments about Utah football: Utes fall at Arizona, 35-24'

    I think you will see more of what I am saying. I submit it meets your opposition at the halfway point so to speak.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 3:11 a.m.

    @Duckhunter

    I mostly agree. A teams record is what they are so to speak is what I am getting from your comment here. That is well taken from me. There is more insight on a teams situation for fans of any team when looking at the program's trend though (up or down).

    I see Utah as a young team that is 4-3. Taking away the Weber State game, Utah is 3-3 against competitive teams. The three wins (USU, BYU, & Stanford) were close ones and the three losses were the same way. Because it's hard to compare records with schedules and conferences, we have various forms of rankings. That said, I see most of them as skewed in a corrupt college landscape. I see Utah as a good young football team loaded with injuries at key spots. But I digress.

    Still, I wouldn't go so far as to say "all you have seen is excuses" from me or other Ute fans. It's not like BYU fans don't do this type of thing. Look at the Virginia and Utah games for example. Do you realize that excuses and venting were endless for those losses from Cougar fans.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:19 p.m.

    Too bad that any player is sidelined with an injury. I hope TW returns soon and can play.

    Ducky, Erickson only sticks around for one year. He has done this before with sub-par teams and I see him gone next year. He wants to coach at a championship program and unfortunately utah is not that place. I agree with your comment on the QB situation. We will see if they are loaded at qb like Whit says. Just because u has warm bodies at qb does not mean they can play at this level.

    Congrats to BYU for hard fought, but very sloppy win.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 9:33 p.m.

    I'm sure the excuses are being cued up, and that is what they are. Yes there are always reasons teams lose, and the fine line between reasons and excuses is sometimes hard to see when you are blinded by fandom, but so far all I've seen are excuses, and more to come if wilson is out.

    During the offseason whittingham declared that he had "two qb's in the upper echelon of the pac12" and we have been told over and over again how utah is now "loaded" at qb, that their freshman recruits are as good as they get and so on.

    I expect the qb "issues" to not even be brought up based on those proclamations by whittingham and utah "fans", unless all 4 of them have their seasons ended by injury. Then there will be an actual "reason".

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    The three close losses Utah has suffered have been tough to swallow. Each loss followed a event of adversity for Wilson. First it was OSU during the week Wilson lost his best friend who passed on. Then it was UCLA where Wilson was in bed sick for three days. Finally it was at Arizona where Wilson's hand injury had gotten worse during the week and the Ute coaches knew it (only 9 passes in the first half before needing to change to the back up in order to play from behind and throw the ball). Utah is a good team but they are young inexperienced and injury stricken.

    Utah is a year away from from being an experienced senior laden club with a second year under Erickson if he sticks around.