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BYU report card: BYU wins a wild one in Houston, 47-46

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  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 4:54 p.m.

    SLCWatch

    "As opposed to your team that did not get lucky?"

    BYU IS my team...

    What are you going on about?

  • baddog Cedar Rapids, IA
    Oct. 21, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    So, we are awarding syle points now in football? Win is a win is a win is a win.

    C+? Any win is at least a B.

    We gonna start giving grades for the best use of pink accessories next?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 12:06 p.m.

    happy_dad

    And Virginia'a wins are byu and a Division II team.

    Virginia has lost to Ball State an Duke.

    Utah's loss to Arizona doesn't touch the byu's loss to Virginia.

  • happy_dad Queen Creek, AZ
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    How can BYU grade lower in a win against a solid Houston than Utah's loss against a mediocre Arizona. (Arizona's wins are Norther Arizona, UNLV, UTSA and Utah. Nice company.) (btw, UTSA is Texas - San Antonio if you were wondering.) Was this a mulligan game?

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Oct. 20, 2013 5:11 p.m.

    We all get tired of different things Vlad... For instance I don't like reading pollyanna posts that proclaim all is wonderful simply because our team wins... We won, yes, but it wasn't pretty...

    We had some great stats and some not so great stats, but there were a ton of errors that many of us believe need to be cleaned up or the next few weeks will be some very rough sledding against some very tough competition...

    I have always thought that the purpose of opinion boards was to state your opinion on a story or an event that the same group of readers are seeing or hearing so you can discuss it if you like... I personally like reading other people's opinions who see the same thing but only from different angles... Especially from those that are different than my own...

    Some, like yourself, don't like to do that... So, if I were you I simply wouldn't read those that upset you. In fact, I don't read the pollyanna stuff unless something pops out at me, like the word "whiner"...

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    @Vladhagen
    Here, Here, good show!!!
    I agree totally.
    Must be an awful lot of old geezers on here who remember days of yore (including me).
    But we weren't perfect back then any more than our memories are perfect now.
    Hahahahaha.

  • tlaulu Taylorsville, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:51 a.m.

    Win or Loose, I tried to give my two cents worth of report card for the cougs. I quit doing that a while back since I'm an ACC (Arm Chair Coach). I realized mine don't matter LOL!

    Go Cougs. You're one win away from bowl eligibility.

  • tlaulu Taylorsville, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    A win by one point is the equivalent of two melatonan pills. I slept sooo good last night.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    I have to wonder why there are still naysayers here. What you just witnessed is what we call a win. End it there. Are these BYU "fans" so myopic that they think BYU is some sort of Alabama defense mixed with Oregon offense? Your QB threw 4 TDs, ran for 100+ yards, and WON the game! Leave it at that. I get really tired of these whiners that constantly think BYU should be scoring 70 points a game with no turnovers, injuries, or points allowed.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 10:19 a.m.

    Now, having read the article, I disagree with Brandon. He should have listened to the Post game show where things were explained by coaches who actually knew what was going on.

    Offense:Given man to man in the first half the offense killed Houston. Gave up one touchdown on a bad pass but other wise did great. Second half, lost Jamaal, had zone coverage and Houston went lights out on the pass rush. They changed we didn't.

    Defense: Shutdown Houston in the first half except for a "push off touchdown" that everyone in the nation saw except the 8 guys and 1 gal standing next to it. The defense took three interceptions from a QB that had 11 tds and only one interception in 5 games. They collected a field wide fumble that the referees couldn't see but video did. (Was this a PAC 12 crew?)

    Special teams: There was only the one kickoff failure. They kicked it out of the endzone on all but two kicks and Hine took one of those 47 yards. They had a Lee Johnson worthy punter and good coverage so only one return could be attempted.

    Coaches: Won it

    Oh, and Houston is good.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Messy victory, but I'll take it. This week will be the test of how good this team really is.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    @YaskY
    As opposed to your team that did not get lucky?

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 6:36 a.m.

    BYU got lucky.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:15 a.m.

    CentralUtah

    "I give BYU an F for uniform originality. First they steal USU blue,..."

    whoa, slow down there sonny; the blue BYU wears in literally a Pantone shade of blue patented by BYU and called "Cougar Blue".

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:09 a.m.

    BYU gets an overall "C+" for a win; while Utah gets the same overall grade for a loss?

    DN graders need to re-evaluate their grading scale.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:03 a.m.

    @wer
    As opposed to another team that did snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

  • Blue Jay United States, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 10:36 p.m.

    I agree majmajor. The defense is not responsible for 16 of the 46 Houston points.

    I would even push their grade up a little higher to a B- because that first score was from a push off. Was I the only one that saw that?????????? However, it was the call on the field so it is what it is.

    You can't give the defense a lower grade than the special teams. They got scored on and never had a put return. The defense got schooled a bit but I'd keep their grade at a B- because you do get credit for clutch play. Especially that last 3 & out that gave the offense a change to have a clutch game winning drive.

    Great game for the Blue Cougs. They are headed in the right direction.

    Blue Jay

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 9:30 p.m.

    Taysom Hill pulls out a Payton Manning style win. No one left early. Considering the win and the post game interviews, BYU has some impressive young men representing them.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    Third quarter the same tonight as it was against Georgia Tech-offensive marshmallows.

    "Escape" with a win is a good description. They nearly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

  • cdchttrtn meridian, idaho
    Oct. 19, 2013 9:02 p.m.

    Anyone know why Williams didn't play in the second half?

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Oct. 19, 2013 8:44 p.m.

    To be fair, BYU's defense didn't give up 16 of Houston's points... BYU's Offense gave up 9 and Special Teams gave up 7... Furthermore, Hill threw a pick in Houston's end zone that cost us another likely 7 points... All in, we should have won this game by 24...

    I believe it was actually one of the worst all around games that we played this year (on par with Utah and Virginia)...

    I still think that Hill has got to fix his touch passing skills and Anae, needs to get some other ideas on potential plays to run...

    Our Offensive Line play was horrible, Our Receiver play was great, and our play selection in the rungame was weak... The only time that we ran outside the tackles was when Hill took off or when we tried for the 2 point conversion with our FB (not a HB)...

    Our Defensive pass coverage was exposed and we got burned on a handful of big plays...

    In My Book:

    Offense B (O-line D, Receivers A, Play Selection C-, QB B)...

    Defense C (D-line C+, LBs B-, Pass Coverage C-)...

    Coaches C (Defense adjusted so DC B, OC C-, Special Teams C)

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Oct. 19, 2013 7:58 p.m.

    Generally uninspiring defense and special teams. Little intensity there. They gotta find a new gear or someone with speed is going to eat their corners' lunch all day. Houston was not all that impressive to me, but they made several gamer plays that counted.

  • Cincinnatus Kearns, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 7:29 p.m.

    rushfar,

    Brandon called it. Maybe it shouldn't have been an easy win, but it shouldn't have been a one point win secured with a interception in the last minute of the game.

    BYU had nearly double the first downs and 200 more offensive yards than Houston and they only walked away with a one point win?

    Houston is a decent team, but they aren't great. They came into this game 5-0. One of those wins was over an FCS team. Of the remaining 4 teams they beat, at this point in the season, only one of those teams, Rice, has a winning record. The other 3 teams are terrible.

    BYU needs to be more consistent throughout the WHOLE game. If they can't, then the next few weeks against teams like Boise St., Wisconsin, and Notre Dame are going to be the most painful stretch of the season.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 7:26 p.m.

    It was a fun game to watch. I disagree (a little) with the grading of the defense and special teams:

    Defense:
    C+ - 16 points were not the defenses fault (Return, pick-6, and safety). The defense shut out Houston the whole second half. They were successful when it mattered, and a C- defense couldn't have held Houston to a 3-and-out at the end of the game. A C- defense would have been on their back asking for O2 at the end of that game.

    Special Teams:
    C+ - You never even mentioned that BYU was the only team to make a field goal (with the same number of attempts).

    Offensive line:
    C+ - They won 80% of the battles. They are much better then last year. I hope the improvement continues.

    Good luck Cougs! Good game.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 7:20 p.m.

    Great game for Taysom, who continues to improve each game:
    29 of 44 (66%), 417 yards, 4 TDs, 3 ints, 161.9 pass eff rating, 128 yds rushing

    Clean up those interceptions, and it would have been a fantastic game.

    When the pressure was on and BYU down 41-46 with 1:50 left in the game, Taysom delivered a 52-yard game-winning touchdown drive.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 7:18 p.m.

    I have to agree with Brandon's assessment. Spot on on all accounts!

  • rushfari@isu.edu Pocatello, ID
    Oct. 19, 2013 7:03 p.m.

    No way should BYU have beaten Houston "easily." That's a good team, quick, strong and had a highly ranked defense.

    They should have beaten them, yes, but I'm entirely comfortable with this win just the way it played out. Every few years "freaky" things happen and the opposing team scores on plays they shouldn't have. The long early TD was because the defender tripped. the 3rd and 22 TD pass was a bad throw and how often do you see a player cut across the field like that to score?

    On a normal day, Houston scores 21-24 points. This happened against Tulsa a few years ago and we lost.

    I'm a happy camper ....