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Published: Thursday, Oct. 17 2013 9:10 p.m. MDT

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Bebyebe
UUU, UT

You are vandals and I hope they prosecute you and throw you in jail. Worries about children? Please!

Thriller
Saint George, UT

This angries up the blood.

Jbutah
Sandy, UT

Been to goblin valley at least a hundred times...these are very strong rock formations and they will not fall and hurt a fly---unless senseless people like these men are there purposely destroying them! . These men are a disgrace and I strongly agree they should be prosecuted to the max! My personal message to them: STAY OUT of our state and national parks!!!'

tlaulu
Taylorsville, Utah

These two adult juveniles were having a blast destroying mother nature's beautiful landscape. Their son who was watching them's going to follow suit in the future. I'm more than angry. They're not park patrol nor safety officers to go around and check for unstable rock formation

liberate
Sandy, UT

I give them the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty. Dumb yes, but maybe no guilty of criminal intent.

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

So many jump to the throat, why not wait until it's all figured out. I agree with them that they should have found a ranger to show the dangerous situation to.

Hightek
Salt Lake City, UT

It's a sad statement on society these days when personal self-interest and self-fulfillment overrides common sense. Modern American culture, especially here in Utah. It's all about ME.

This valley, and it's unique formations, have survived millions of years and was important enough to society to cordon it off as a state park. And these gentlemen decide to go knock it over for a laugh.

And @liberate, this isn't hearsay or unproven accusations. They posted the video and audio themselves. Then followed up in an interview saying they'd do it again. These are OUR lands. These are OUR monuments and treasures. I think WE have every right to be angry at those who destroy our treasures for a laugh.

mountainlocal
Brooklyn, NY

Come on. They must think we're stupid and going to buy the explanation of safety that they're selling. They might be lying, but watch the video. It tells the whole truth in body language and tone. These guys are poor excuses for youth leaders. They clearly lack sound judgement.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

Dumb, inconsiderate, and criminal.

Throw the book at them!

RG
Buena Vista, VA

My father was a botanist and was an expert witness in a suit when a state-owned tree fell on a citizen, who sued the state. It is not unreasonable to worry for peoples' safety. For all you holier-than-thou people who want to throw the book at him, please consider if you have ever done something in good conscience that turned out to have bad consequences. And if you haven't ever done such a thing before, you still might in the future. I agree that they ought to have contacted a park ranger, but hindsight is always 20/20.

Really???
Kearns, UT

They should be prosecuted and not allowed to volunteer with the Boy Scouts or youth for a very long time. They set a very bad example.

Cougar11
Highland, UT

The outrage by some is a bit much. If what they say is true and at some future point someone did get harmed or killed would we all now say "oh well, that was tragic, but it was mother nature so that's okay"? In the end it was two rocks shaped by mother nature. I'm sure she isn't crying over this. Millions of square miles around the world are practically untouched and formed by mother nature as well,. Take a look around, there is beauty everywhere, we really want to condemn these guys to prison because they claim they tried to protect some future family. Should they have gotten the rangers, probably, but lets stop acting like they killed someone. As a community lets rise up against the many abuses happening to children or women or drugs or driving while drunk or our country's murder rate or pornography, or our parks services acting as a foolish arm of the White House during the shut down or against prostitution or, or or or Perspective please.

mornixuur
Layton, UT

@liberate: I really couldn't care less what their intent was (and I might add that I'm not buying their explanation of their intent for a moment).

Try telling a cop you didn't "intend" to speed and let us know how high that flies. Ignorance is not and never has been an excuse.

Walt Nicholes
Orem, UT

It wasn't yours to do. You do not have the authority to "save lives" in a state park. And your jubilation smacks of proving that you were strong enough to topple a rock rather than make a path safer.

If you applied your logic more broadly, I could go cut down a tree in your yard because I thought that one day it may fall and hurt someone. I could rip out the stair rails in your house because they may one day fail.

Make up your excuses after the fact and they had better be good, because if there is any justice you will be tried and forced to pay for a helicopter to lift that rock back to its proper position.

Cactus
Moroni, UT

If they are not prosecuted, then everyone is free to do what they did with no consequences.

OnlyInUtah
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Thanks for keeping our parks safe guys... now pay the fines and don't ever visit our parks again.

jej
SANDY, UT

I'm ok with pushing over a rock that might be dangerous. I don't just buy that story though based on how they were acting in the video. It was completely disrespectful and made me think that they were just being stupid. For everyone that says innocent until proven guilty, the guilty party posted a video of them performing the actions!

DEW
Sandy, UT

Same fishy story as an example "Dean Potter famous climb on Delicate Arch". Did he get fined, I don't know. I did look in the web search, but it did say something which was put in place from federal government AFTER he already attempt that Delicate Rock (Arch). Now this is State Park "Goblin Valley" and I do hope that there will be huge STIFF Penalties for what he did. Remember this Colorado River rafting group who pushed (or whatever word) this large boulder down the river in Moab area. What consequences did they get? Again, I don't know but Mother nature did her art and should be kept alone.

I am sorry sir to both of you if you didn't think which I don't buy that and stay away from our Mother Nature land!

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Are we really going to throw people in jail for pushing over a rock? Please. These people have families. Sure, they made a mistake. Have them perform community service, cleaning parks or building walking paths in parks. If you put them in jail they will lose their income, their families will lose their homes, divorces may result and the families my end up on welfare.

Stop the reactionary comments and think a little. Actions have consequences on both sides.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

"please consider if you have ever done something in good conscience that turned out to have bad consequences."

Nope. Never have.

Throw the book at them.

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