"When was Utah ever good at football?"T****Machine:There you go again, leaving out the truth. Every time a y "fan" says
something like that, they are REALLY taking a shot at Utah's down decade or
two and to last season. But if we look at the first 50 years of football that
BYU will admit to, Utah was dominant.- From 1922 through the 1971
season, Utah's record was 296-167-21, a 64% winning record, 19 conference
championships, and 3 bowl games. - During that same time period,
BYU's record was 173-235-26, a 42% winning record, 1 conference
championship and no bowl games.- Utah dominated the head-to-head,
38-5-4.Yes, that 1984 Y team backed into a national championship.
That Y fans still crow it about grates on Ute fans. Yet that was the only
undefeated season the Y has had in its entire football history. Utah has had 4
in since 1922, 2 in the last 10 years. And, need I remind you of the whole BCS,
Pac-12, 9-of-12, 5-of-6, 4-in-a-row thing?The "truth" is BYU
may NEVER be dominant again in football.
P.S. Jamaal Williams chose BYU over UtahYes the Utes offered someone who
came to BYU.
BeSmart is quoting Tom Holmoe & a little network called ESPN, maybe
you've heard of it. BYU was listed as the 9th most nationally televised
program in the country. Not sure Utah is anywhere to be found on that list, or
that anyone even cares if they are. I just spoke with a good friend from
Tennessee who's also a Georgia Bulldog fan like me. He confirmed what I
already knew....I quote, "Stanford was over-rated getting beat by a mountain
west team like Utah". LOL! He didn't watch the game so obviously he
missed the logos on the field, but the point is, no one cares about Utah outside
the state, and apparently don't even know you're playing in the big
boy sand box now. LOL
belligerent comments by either side about stats and assumptions. It's quite
comical.Just learn to respect one another this is crazy.Go utes and
Statement from tv stats expertsBYU 9 most views college football team
since 2011-2012Does not mean a national brand but people are watching.
I think it's safe to say that espn recruiting service doesn't share
the same glowing outlook on the future of Utah football. By scouts & ESPNs
services the trend is upward for BYU and downward for Utah. In fact if the
current trend continues, this may be Utah's worst recruiting class since
announcing it's new PAC12 membership. What?...you mean winning in a big
conferences matters, not just the PAC12 logo on the field. Who would have
My, my, my. A certain Utah fan is really taking this news hard.
Not that stars matter but lets look at the 2015 recruiting class since 2014 has
already been touched on. BYU:4 stars= 2 committed3
stars= 1 committedUtah:0 CommitsSeems to me
BYU's recruiting is going up and good players are committing early. I guess
Utah has to wait until the other PAC teams pick over the players and the Utes
pick up the scraps.
Why are you so stick on recruiting? I work in math, the more you have gone
on about it the more I find out the argument comes down to 1-3 percentage
points. Congrats you have won the recruiting classes. Just saying 1-3
percent is not a lot.
All this back and forth is ridiculous. We all know that Texas, USC, &
Stanford out recruits most teams, yet they all have losses to those with far
less stellar recruiting ratings. Of course, every school tries to get the best
recruits but it doesn't guarantee wins. Utah just proved that and BYU
proved it last month. Some people are desperate for a spitting contest.
He will be awesome six stars before he is done with playing. He will totally
donimate PAC weak teams because he works harder and we are high levels of
execution.Tons of awesome TDs and first Downs will be catched.
I also found it interesting that of BYU's 16 commitments only 2 come from
the state of Utah. And of Utah's 12 commitments 7 of those are in-state
recruits. .....Makes you wonder who has the National Brand...?
I also find it interesting that only 2 of BYUs 16 commitments are from the great
state of Utah. While 7 of the 12 University of Utah commits are
instate recruits. ...Makes you wonder who has the national
thanks Black & Blue for being respectful to everyone.Go Utah Schools
Just a few number from 247 sportsUtah 2011-2014 average recruit-84.19
remove utahs outlier (83.67)BYU 2011-2014 average recruit-81.12 remove BYU
outlier (81.9)UCLA 2011-2014 avg. 86.8 remove outlier (88)USC
2011-2014 avg. 91.6 remove outlier (93)outlier removed was the value
farthest from the mean.Utah best recruiting year was 2011. BYUs best this
year (last year was way off the mean).So by ranking philosophy: so on a 99
ranking. BYU is 3.07 percent lower than Utah.Utah 2.61 below UCLA, and
7.41 below USC.I may be mistaking but Utah still has around 13
scholarships for next year so they could go up or down (after analyzing 247
sports list of Utah offers and athletes considering utah, probably down)BYU class is almost complete (after analyzing outstanding scholarship offers,
and the athletes considering BYU will probably trend upward)UCLA and USC
did not go as in depth. my guess is UCLA will trend upward and USC downward.I believe the outlier is a more accurate number to eliminate unique qualities
in the numbers)There are the statistics of recruiting
More top 25 rankingBYUApparently the Pac-12 doesnt care about titles
anymore.last one disputed 2004
How much does the honor code affect recruiting?I wonder what BYUs classes
would look like if they could offer to anyone.Nobody knows but a good
question to think about.
No worry because we really didnt want him anyhow because he doesnt have enough
stars and cant win anyboby without more stars. And he wouldn't do good in
our awsome bcs power conference without stars like us.
Recruiting battles this year BYU 4 Utah 1,Currently Utah has offered 133
scholarships for 12 commits.BYU has offered 37 for 15 commits.Yes
Utah has a better star ranking this year. But may have to fill out their class
with 2-star or less players. Most higher stars player offered have committed
elsewhere, or barely looking at playing for the Utes.5 more 3 star
recruits Utah has a shot at.from 247 sportsGood luck all Utah
Schools.Trolls are annoying
@lifelong UteI don't thing EdGrady is talking the whole class there
have been comments that Utah is getting most or all LDS recruits he was just
showing that is not true.PS. look at recruiting services Utah may have a
hard time filling out the recruiting class with their current offers.
@EdGrady - Bragging about a single recruit is like a team who brags about
winning a single quarter in a football game but loses the game. Call us when
you out recruit Utah in a full recruiting class.
"The 6-foot-6, 215-pound prospect considered offers from such schools as
Arizona, Utah, ..."Wait! How can this be? I thought Utah was
slurping up all the good LDS recruits. I thought Utah was winning ALL the
recruiting battles with BYU. I thought Utah's Pac-10.2 membership gave
them the upper hand with all recruits.
yeah it was a great pickup. Utah also got a good commit the day after the