To "Grover" according to the Daily Mail and Daily Caller out of England,
the 51,000 comes from sources within the HHS administration.
@nonceleb:"Will everyone please stop calling it government-run health
care... The ACA is run through PRIVATE insurance companies."Yes, the government does not own Obamacare... That wouldn't be too
smart. Instead, under Obamacare the government will control it all. @Anti Bush-Obama:"When this is a wreck the liberals better show some
guts and own up to it."They will not only not own up to it...
they will find a way to blame someone else... such as Bush.
@Curmudgeon:"The will of the majority of Americans was expressed in
the last election."I think you're right... the people
elected mostly Republicans in the House whose job is to decide funding levels of
the federal government.@The Real Maverick""Shutting
down the government and wrecking our economy isn't an option.
Sorry."Tell that to Obama. He's the guy who shut the
government down. He's the head of the government. He coulda accepted the
House's full funding (except Obamacare) and kept the government running.
But no... he had to shut 'er down.
Shirt: Interesting that you have the knowledge that 50,000 signed up the first
week when no figures are being published until the end of the first month of
enrollment. Also the venom at the government workers who screwed things up is
misplaced. The entire rollout was subbed out to the private sector including the
computer work and the call in centers. Look at it this way: there are lots of
new jobs being created and that many less people on unemployment and/or food
stamps. I know that will make you feel much better.
To "Bebyebe" I am not a government employee.Do you think
that the government makes efficient use of all of your tax dollars, and never
The ACA can work. It's not the single payer system we need, but it can
Quote;"How many excuses will Obama's "community organizers"
give us for his failures? 59% of the people told Obama to NOT sign
ObamaCare"You have few twisted polls where what a few thousand
people commented?51% of the NATION voted for Obama TWICE. Say 150
million people.And you ignore all the other polls of how many people
want healthcare for everyone.In an extensive ABCNEWS/Washington Post
poll, Americans by a 2-1 margin, 62-32 percent, prefer a universal health
insurance program over the current employer-based system.
Redshirt, why, if you think the government wastes too much money, do you sit at
a government desk during work and waste time with comments to the paper?
Keep up the rating until another hysterical tantrum.
How many excuses will Obama's "community organizers" give us for
his failures? 59% of the people told Obama to NOT sign ObamaCare. He signed it
anyway. No Republican voted for ObamaCare, He signed it anyway. Rules were
changed, bribes were given and we're supposed to think that ObamaCare is in
our "best interests"?ObamaCare is in Obama's best
interest. He get's more than 18% of all the income in America to divy up
among his supporters. We get nothing. We can plainly see that if Obama or Reid
or any other politician wants, they will shut down the government and stomp all
over us. What did Obama and Reid do to the Women, Infants and
Children who depended on government aid during THEIR shutdown? The told those
Women, Infants and Children to "take a hike". They were nothing but
fodder for Obama and Reid's cannons. They were thrown under the bus. Is
anyone so stupid to think that Obama, Reid or whoever is in power will not throw
them and their "healthcare" under the bus when those unscrupulous
politicians will not negotiate?
noncelebRe: "Will everyone please stop calling it government-run
health care"...We know it's not single-payer government
healthcare. But we also know (and you can ask any of the liberal posters who
keep posting that their only wish is that it WERE a Single-payer government
administrated system)... that this is just the first step, and even Obama admits
that the End-Game is... the single payer government administrated healthcare.Ask ANY of them!So we're looking down the road a little
bit. What's wrong with that? You should try it. It helps avoid train
wrecks like this IF you can look a little ahead and see where things are most
likely going.When people are not happy with this... politicians will
be completely convinced that the ONLY option is single-payer government provided
healthcare (because anything else will be painted as "taking people's
healthcare away")... and the fear of that will insure enough votes to insure
they get what they really wanted in the end... Government Healthcare like the
Socialist countries they look up to so much.Do you really not see
If any private insurance company ran their website or their business the way the
government runs theirs... they would be out of business in 2 weeks.If any private insurance company treated it's customers the way the
government treats people (like they are sub-human things being tolerated by the
government DMV workers)... they would be out of business in 2 months.I know there are terrible stories about how private insurers never pay claims,
just kick you out if you get sick, etc... but I've had private insurance
for 50 years and NEVER experienced any of that. If I did... I would drop them
and take my business and my premiums to another private company that wanted my
business bad enough to do better. What options do we have when there's
just ONE source for our healthcare??And what motivation do they do
to give me good service... when they are my ONLY option?
Ok liberals, if the ACA is so great and isn't going to collapse and take
the US economy with it, explain the following:Why did only 51,000
sign up for Obamacare in the first week?If the ACA was supposed to
lower insurance costs, why have insurance prices gone up and covered items gone
down?How does increasing taxes on medical device companies make
their products cheaper for those that need them?Why is it that 10%
of employers are considering dropping health insurance plans because of the
ACA?If the ACA is supposed to reduce the deficit or be neutral, why
is it that as of April 2012 the CBO estimated it will add $340 billion to the
debt?If it is so great, why does it only cover 15 million of the 45
million uninsured?If it is so great, why do the unions now oppose
it, along with big businesses and branches of the Federal Government?With all of the problems it has shown before full implementation, why do you
liberals declare it a great success?
BTW, the private company that won the award is French Canadian and specializes
in single payer programs. As a Canadian, I wonder why we had to outsource this
debacle and who will be held responsible for the wreck it is?
Please tell me all you posters who support 0care - have you signed up? I would
like to hear some stories that are positive about the cost, the time it took,
and what your deductible will be. So please enlighten us!
@Anti Bush-Obama;Goodbye, don't let the Rio hit you on the way
out.I'm wondering who the good doctor thinks it was wrote the
software thats having so much trouble from high traffic. It was a "private
corporation" that won the bid to develop it. So there goes your "better
by private industry" mantra out the window.
@Anti Bush-ObamaBe careful in Mexico. They have universal
When this is a wreck the liberals better show some guts and own up to it. This
100% their responsibility. But I'm leaving the country. I would rather live
in Mexico now anyway.
To lost in D.C.: By universally popular I meant that the people that get it tend
to like it. Any politician attempting to repeal it now would have to deal with
mobs of angry senior citizens. Yes, I'm still upset that it was
unfunded, and continues to be unfunded. I don't know how anyone that
considers himself to be a conservative can go along with an entitlement program
that has no funding source. Say what you want about the ACA, at least it's
Will everyone please stop calling it government-run health care. The mandate was
a conservative idea from the Heritage Foundation to avoid Canadian-style
"socialized medicine." Republicans originally embraced this
"compromise." It is why Romney adopted it for Massachusetts. The ACA is
run through PRIVATE insurance companies. The government does not administer or
operate hospitals, clinics, medical supply companies and pharmaceutical
companies. Government regulations are directed to insurance companies, such as
not denying coverage due to preexisting conditions, dropping coverage because of
expensive claims and children staying on their parent's health plan up to
age 26. The ACA is not even national health insurance. It is requiring everyone
outside of Medicare and Medicaid to have private health insurance.
RolandThen I assume it is there to "only" take care of the
currently uninsured? If so why are many having premiums rise, due to Obamacare?
And why is insuring the uninsured so expensive? To the tune of trillions if we
add it all up in the coming years. And why did Obamacare take a huge chunk of
money out of Medicare to fund the system in the first place? And if you lose
you job, there is a program where you can keep your health insurance by paying
for it yourself. Too expensive you say. Brings me back to why are some people
now being forced into Obamacare because they can't afford the plan they
had. I actually think Obama wants that to happen so we all will end up on a
single payer government run system. That, I believe, is the real end game for
Roland,Part D is universally popular?You mean all the liberals
who scream about how it was not paid for LOVE it? Ah, the inconsistency and
double standard of the left. Something we have come to expect.marxist,Deciding who gets treatment and when is efficient? Yeah, I
guess if people die or have their treatable conditions become terminal while
waiting is efficient, you could say that.curmudgeon,the will
of the people in 2010 said NO!!!!!! to obamacare and the GOP maintaining the
house in 2012 reaffirmed that. get over it. If it’s such a wonderful
law, why is BO deferring (without authority) the employer mandate? embarrassed,cannot defend obamacare, so you attack the good doctor and
the people who oppose it. Typical.Maverick,The GOP voted to
defund obamacare; BO and the dems decided it was more important than ALL the
rest of the government and voted to shut the government down and scare the
markets with talk of default.Ernest,No dem house members
representing areas where the F35s are to made voted against them, either.
It worked for us. What else can I say?
To Dr David R. Boettger,I am no great fan of the ACA but if you think the
previous system was good for the country then you are stuck in your corporate
side not medical side. The former system flaws are well documented but just so
you know where I'm coming from it lacked one other perk. It lacked a
provision to provide a CPA to audit your bills for overcharges and an attorney
to advocate for the paid for benefits. The real solution is developing a single
payer system like the real world does. Then you could practice medicine rather
than be a corporation. You could eliminate some of the office staff which out
numbers providers on the average of 2-1. There is plenty of great examples how
that could work and you wouldn't even have to move to regular home. I
support HB676 which would save us 400 billion just in administration. Before you
scream, Americans are paying enough today in taxes, copays, deductibles etc to
pay for a single payer system. Until then, since it's the law of the land
then let's fix the flaws instead of harping on how we are going to
"That some people actually think the government can run the health care
system is frankly disturbing." All those poor disturbed Europeans.But it's really only the Republicans who think government is running
health care. And they are mistaken. I'm surprised that a medical doctor
would be so clueless about the ACA. I still have my insurance through my
employer. No government involvement. I still go to the same family doctor, the
same dentist, the same specialists, the same hospitals, all of which are
privately owned practices or facilities.The government involvement
here is to enforce a few rules to prevent the abuses our health-care system was
so adept at (like dropping sick people from insurance rolls) and to offer
options for coverage, but even these are not sponsored by government. They are
offered by private insurers who are taking advantage of a suddenly expanded
market.So what on earth is this letter writer ranting about? Has he
been listening to Rush and Glen too much?
It should be noted that the American Medical Association (AMA) endorses
ObamaCare. Most physicians recognize that ObamaCare extends medical insurance
to people who were previously denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions,
and they see that as a very good thing.
Calling Obamacare a "glitch" is like calling Mt. Everest a hill.
To SC Fan: I get my insurance through my employer, so most of Obamacare
doesn't apply to me. Same with the majority of other Americans who are
insured through their employers. It also doesn't apply to anyone on
Medicare. That's a big majority of the country right there.Even
though it doesn't apply to me right now, I will be glad it's there in
case I ever lose my job.
That's why he's not my doctor.
"It's $634 million. That's the current price tag for
Healthcare.gov, the official website for Obamacare, "National
Review:"Um, no. If you follow the link above to the “U.S.
government records,” you’ll see that the exact figure for CGI, Inc.
is $634,320,919 and over 114 transactions dating back to 2008. Keep
in mind Obamacare was signed into law in 2010.The company originally
won the contract back in 2011."
So many of you cite the current law as if it is now etched in stone like the Ten
Commandments. Well, in our system, it isn't. Laws, even Constitutional
ammendments, can be changed. And as a favor, will one of you Obamacare
supporters please tell me why this system HAS to apply to all Americans? Why
not leave alone the best parts of our current health care system? Obama himself
said at the time that if you liked your plan or doctor you could keep it. Is
that reality? Apparantly not. Why did he have to lie to get his plan passed?
And as an American why should I support a lying President? The way this plan was
origionally sold was to help insure the 30 to 40 million uninsured people in the
country, not revamp the whole system. Again, what a lying President and bunch
So it costs about the same amount as on of those new F35 jets that don't
work. You know, the ones repubs love so much they bought 2,500 of them. And they
If Obamacare is really as bad as the repubs (and letter writers like these) make
it out to be, then it will sink by its own merits. Let Obamacare sink or swim on
its own.Shutting down the government and wrecking our economy
isn't an option. Sorry.
Imagine the possibilities if instead of monkeywrenching and foot-stomping, the
Republicans would have listened to the will of the American People AND the
Supreme Court of these United States? Imagine!
The will of the majority of Americans was expressed in the last election. Get
"That some people actually think the government can run the health care
system is frankly disturbing. It cannot. It will never work, and it would
bankrupt the economy while jeopardizing people's health with incompetency
and rationing." The good doctor hyperventilates. Medicare is efficient,
and the health systems of western Europe are efficient and the Canadian system
is efficient. I guess he wants people to be denied care because of preexisting
conditions and dropped from care when their cases are too lengthy and complex.
Non-covered people in their thousands have had to go to tent clinics to beg for
care - does the doctor find that beautiful? THAT is the reality of the private
health insurance jungle.
Actually the glitches occurring during the rollout of the ACA are quite similar
to the glitches that occurred during the rollout of Bush's Medicare part D
program. Those glitches were all worked out and now the program is almost
universally popular. At the time, however, more people disapproved of the
program than approved. Sound familiar?The biggest problem being
encountered by Obamacare is actually the sheer volume of people trying to log on
and apply, which has overwhelmed the computer system. That should be seen as a
sign of success. The insurance doesn't even go into effect until Jan. 1st
and people have until next April to sign up. No one should panic at this point
there is still plenty of time to sign up.